Are you as cheap in the club as you are in real life?
theDirkDiggler
Illinois
Or vice versa, as you might be "cheaper" in one place. For me definitely IRL. Once i'm ITC, i'm generally much more generous and free spending, although i still don't spend much at all on drinks or "companionship" or just a dancer's time. I really only pay for services, preferably quality services. But IRL, i'm always trying to buy stuff on sale or clearance in stores or online, although sometimes the money you really save is the money you don't spend at all. I'll use grocery apps and gasbuddy, trying to buy gas early in the week before the usual price change. If i waste a dollar needlessly IRL, it bothers me almost to the point of of preoccupation.
But in the club i'm prepared and willing to spend hundreds (even many hundreds) of dollars without much regret, worry or concern. The only real concern is that i get what i pay for. As long as that happens, it's a good night and i'm ready to do it again. If i don't get anything close to what i had hoped for but paid for it anyway, which is a rarer occurrence these days, then i'm a bit or quite a bit more upset over wasting money and i try to figure out how it happened and resolve not to have that happen again. But even then i don't stress too much and i'm ready to try again.
The thing is i hear about TUSCLers "complaining" about valet fees, bathroom trolls, waitress ROBs in terms of tipping. Not that those are unimportant. Sometimes it really is about principles (although most people that say that seen to really care more about the money). But in my case, all those things are such a small fraction (like less than 10% and maybe closer to 1%) of what i spend that night that i don't really notice it; it's just negligible. All those things combined for me usually come out to well under $20. Maybe i could have had one more dance, maybe; dances tend to cost more, not including tip, in my neck of the woods.
I don't want to come off in a certain way, but it's kind of like people that don't tip well or much at all ever at fairly expensive restaurants. It's one thing if you have bad service, but if you can't afford to tip on top of an expensive bill, you probably shouldn't be eating there. If you're going to worry about how much it costs rather than enjoying yourself, then it's probably better to stay home or go somewhere where it won't bother you so much. If you don't think it's worth it, don't go there.
I am oversimplifying though; there are many reasons anyone could be unsatisfied and upset especially when money's concerned. Or maybe they have to hide the money that they spend from someone else and that hidden amount is very limited. As i've mentioned in other discussions, dives, mid-tier clubs and high end clubs all cost about the same to me in terms of dances (around $20-30 each), so the price/value isn't that different until you factor in quality of dancers and experience, in which case the ATF is at a high end club providing me with the preferred experience that i can't really get anywhere else regardless of cost. Maybe it's the way i spend money ITC, but the high end club isn't really more expensive per minute of quality experience. It's just harder to find that quality experience for me to be willing to pay for at the "cheaper" places.
But i've digressed enough already. Are your spending habits/personality different in the club?
But in the club i'm prepared and willing to spend hundreds (even many hundreds) of dollars without much regret, worry or concern. The only real concern is that i get what i pay for. As long as that happens, it's a good night and i'm ready to do it again. If i don't get anything close to what i had hoped for but paid for it anyway, which is a rarer occurrence these days, then i'm a bit or quite a bit more upset over wasting money and i try to figure out how it happened and resolve not to have that happen again. But even then i don't stress too much and i'm ready to try again.
The thing is i hear about TUSCLers "complaining" about valet fees, bathroom trolls, waitress ROBs in terms of tipping. Not that those are unimportant. Sometimes it really is about principles (although most people that say that seen to really care more about the money). But in my case, all those things are such a small fraction (like less than 10% and maybe closer to 1%) of what i spend that night that i don't really notice it; it's just negligible. All those things combined for me usually come out to well under $20. Maybe i could have had one more dance, maybe; dances tend to cost more, not including tip, in my neck of the woods.
I don't want to come off in a certain way, but it's kind of like people that don't tip well or much at all ever at fairly expensive restaurants. It's one thing if you have bad service, but if you can't afford to tip on top of an expensive bill, you probably shouldn't be eating there. If you're going to worry about how much it costs rather than enjoying yourself, then it's probably better to stay home or go somewhere where it won't bother you so much. If you don't think it's worth it, don't go there.
I am oversimplifying though; there are many reasons anyone could be unsatisfied and upset especially when money's concerned. Or maybe they have to hide the money that they spend from someone else and that hidden amount is very limited. As i've mentioned in other discussions, dives, mid-tier clubs and high end clubs all cost about the same to me in terms of dances (around $20-30 each), so the price/value isn't that different until you factor in quality of dancers and experience, in which case the ATF is at a high end club providing me with the preferred experience that i can't really get anywhere else regardless of cost. Maybe it's the way i spend money ITC, but the high end club isn't really more expensive per minute of quality experience. It's just harder to find that quality experience for me to be willing to pay for at the "cheaper" places.
But i've digressed enough already. Are your spending habits/personality different in the club?
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I'm all over the whiskey Wednesday specials, though, and any club that lets me in free is definitely in the rotation when I'm bored and it seems unlikely but possible that it might be worth a visit.
After getting laid off in mid 2017 - I re-examined my finances - and thought about things - and decided that life is too short to lament each purchase - so I’ve been spending a bit more otc. I’m not making crazy purchases - but I’m enjoying things a bit more.
and in the club... quite the opposite.
no better use of money than to have a most excellent experience!
(and hopefully she uses that money for improvement of herself, her kids, her future.)
With higher end items like electronics or a new suit I'm willing to spend more to get a better quality. However, I spend a ton of time researching and comparison shopping to make sure I am actually getting my money's worth. I also generally avoid getting electronics when they first come out until the price has dropped at least once and there have been enough reviews over time to ensure no major issues (i.e. Samsung's exploding battery).
But with entertainment (including strip clubs) I am more willing to part with my money as long as it means having a great time. I have no regrets about spending five times as much to get a great seat instead of a cheap seat at a ballgame or concert. Same goes for the strip club, I have no problem spending money on a vip instead of regular lapdances as long as she is worth it.
So for me it is about return of value. It doesn't matter how much I make, I can't shake off the need to ensure that I'm getting proper return on what I spend.
Same thing with online shopping. Do people even use the price sorter? I do care about average ratings and reviews though (kind of like TUSCL although i'm talking mostly about Amazon). But it's easy to compare prices as well as see if they're applying any discount.
Unfortunately, i can't really bring this philosophy to the strip club. The price is the price, although it is open to negotiation, but this haggling mentality tends to be a drag on the experience for both parties, and i go in already understanding what i think a good experience is worth and am willing to pay it. Still wary of the ROBs though. But if i waste $30 on a bad dance or worse, it bothers me but i'm over it quickly, but IRL if i waste the same amount on say a parking ticket or credit card late fee, that just pisses me off and it takes me much longer to get over it. It really does feel like working for nothing and pissing money away.
There are just certain risks that aren't completely avoidable at the SC that you accept as the potential cost of doing business.
who dey's last paragraph is exactly how i am
@theDirkDiggler, what kind of store apps will save you 50% on groceries?
The store apps themselves don't save 50% or so. Every week and even on certain days of the week there are always sales going on. The apps only apply digital coupons to certain items that might not be on sale although i try to coordinate the coupons (i don't use too many paper coupons) with the weekly sales for maximum savings. But on the receipt it will say how much i saved from weekly promotions, app discounts and coupons. The promotions are usually by far the biggest portion of the savings. A lot of the time, the sale price will be about half or even less than half of the regular price. I try to take advantage of those sales the most and try to time my purchases based on sales over multiple stores. While i have seen people probably just go to one store with a list and probably a preferred brand and just shop off that list with not a single item on sale when very similar items (just different brand or even the same brand but slightly different item or size of the item) were on sale. That's all that i meant. Even with "50%" savings, i'm still spending well over $200 a month mostly on myself, so it doesn't really feel like i saved that much. But you can bet where that other $300 that i didn't get ripped off on is going that month ;)
I recently got my satellite bill dropped from 189 a month down to 25 for one month and only 106 going forward and I only dropped one channel after talking up a deal. Getting two sets of movie channels for free for 6 months. Threatened to drop the phone company and am getting 3 or 4 discounts. Might still go with a less expensive option. Found out my phone p,an allows hot spots and dropped a data only 30 a month plan. All those monthly expenses really add up.
Maybe when I'm a multi millionaire, I will stop caring that much if I'm wasting a little bit of extra money each month. I like getting a great deal.
I watched a show on tv called extreme penny pinchers or something. Some people resorted to saving a few bucks by searching for supposedly good food thrown out in garbage dumpsters or limiting toilet paper per day per person by only alotting a few pieces of toilet paper per day. Crazy. Makes all normal people look rich and possibly wasteful. However I am willing to pay for food safety and will not search for food in a dumpster and want everyone in my house to be clean so I won't skip what I consider to be necessities. Maybe the show was extreme cheapskates.
I had a boss that never paid for cable or satellite. He had a big antennae up in his attic. If you are happy with less services, the more you can save and retire early. I see nothing wrong with that.
When I visit strip clubs, I routinely tip 2 dollars as a stage tip and sometimes spend 5 or 7 with tip just for a single beer. I can buy almost 6 for that price at the grocery store. If I applied normal budgets or normal value to strip clubs, I'd probably never visit unless beer was one dollar , cover charges were free and lap dances were only 5 bucks and a stage tip was typically a quarter and making it rain involved 8 quarters raining down on a stripper.
I don't get worked up over door fees, waitress / bartender tipping, etc. Pick your battles.
I had something like this happen the other week. I made a point of going to the cheapest place for gas and ended up giving more than the savings to a panhandler I felt sorry for who approached me at the pump.
> When I visit strip clubs, I routinely tip 2 dollars as a stage tip and sometimes spend 5 or 7 with tip just for a single beer. I can buy almost 6 for that price at the grocery store. If I applied normal budgets or normal value to strip clubs, I'd probably never visit unless beer was one dollar , cover charges were free and lap dances were only 5 bucks and a stage tip was typically a quarter and making it rain involved 8 quarters raining down on a stripper.
Well, that's until after slaying Wal-Mart, Dollar General shifts its focus to the Deja Vu chain of strip clubs! It could be cool if they sell a pack of 80 mini-parachutes for the quarter rain showers in black-light reactive rain-themed design for $2 and for the gentlemen with an impatient nature, $4 lap dance guards (This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease)