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jimhalsted
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First time post, long time reader.
I just saw that Treasures was raided. This seems to come on the heels of raids in Seattle, El Paso and maybe some other cities. What do the more experienced guys think? Is LE more of an issue these days? I was under the impression that LE had figured out that there are more important issues to deal with but maybe I am wrong.
I just saw that Treasures was raided. This seems to come on the heels of raids in Seattle, El Paso and maybe some other cities. What do the more experienced guys think? Is LE more of an issue these days? I was under the impression that LE had figured out that there are more important issues to deal with but maybe I am wrong.
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I agree that raids are political speed bumps. Reports of the sky falling to the contrary, panic is entirely optional.
UPDATE: In a previous post, I mentioned that two bodies were discovered within a few hundred yards of the entrance to my office Tues morning... well, Friday there were two more discovered about a half block further away.. .four dead bodies, all murdered, with three days of each other...
Sure glad the clubs aren't around here to cause problems, though... [sarcasm]
I also visited a club in San Diego afew years ago that was suffering the after effects of a raid that was brought on as the result of a local politician's conviction for accepting bribes from the club owner in exchange for loosening contact restrictions.
It seems to me that these raids are nothing but occasional politically motivated itch scratching. I don't see any overt plan to try and shut down strip clubs.
I know Doug is just letting off steam, but I never have much sympathy for the old hand-wringing line that cops shouldn't bust clubs when there's "real crime" that needs their attention. The law is the law. Where is it written that some crime should only be enforced once all the murders and robberies are solved? That's not how it works, never has been. If you don't like the way it's enforced, work to change the laws so that everything that goes on in Treasures is legal. Or speak out at civic forums in opposition to the priorities the police and prosecutors place on vice. Or help campaign to elect a sherriff who promises to ignore vice in strip clubs. Complaining on a strip club board doesn't change anything. Personally, I can live with the way things are. Making it acceptable would take all the fun out of it.
Is anyone aware of any clubs that have been shut down that were clean operations, that didn't allow their girls to violate local laws? Something to think about is that the increase in "extras" is likely to increase pressure to shut down clubs, so those of you who favor extras are probably as responsible as anyone for any increased pressure by LE.
It is extremely frustrating to me that the local government is so overly concerned with strip clubs and the supposed crimes that they attract. Especially in light of the high crime rate, and lack of arrest and conviction in serious crimes. The local government and PD should be concentrating on these crimes and their solution, not on clamping down on strip clubs.
Case in point. I work in an office that is located in one of the worst areas in the city. The office is actually "hidden" in a non-descript building (an old train station) for security reasons, and security is very tight once inside. Anyhow, this building is just a few blocks from the remaining strip clubs, but is also just a few blocks from the homeless shelter, too.
Tuesday, two bodies were discovered (obviously murdered) a few hundred yards from the entrance to our office. The police have no leads, no clue as to who did this.
The murder rate in the city has sky rocketed over the last few years, and most remain unsolved. This, even after the clubs have been closed down.
It SURE is a good thing that the strip clubs have been shut closed. I feel MUCH safer.
The local politicians have really messed up what used to be some really fun clubs around here, and obviously it is happening in other cities around the county. Even though they claim that clubs promote crime, etc., I think the strip clubs provide a service to both the patrons and the staff. WE the patrons, get the pleasure, the staff is able to make a living when many have no other options. To me, just like prostitution, it's a victimless "crime".
As far as I'm concerned, with the threat that at some point in time there won't be any decent clubs left, I'm cultivating the OTC relationships as much as possible.
So, what caused this recent nation-wide one? The upsurge in troops for Iraq? :P