OT: Computer Programming

Going through your father's old coding books?

Like I've always said, one needs both old and new books. And of the languages I've mentioned above, they are not necessarily out of date.

Will be looking for good books on Python and SQL.

SJG
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Always loved this, concise, elegant and effective. Probably one of the reasons that C was so widely adopted. Not really a beginners langauge though. No training wheels. Some involve in embedded real time find it to be unsafe, problematic. For myself, it is awesome. But I have seen how undisciplined people get themselves into deep shit.

C Programming Language, 2nd Edition 2nd Edition
by Brian W. Kernighan (Author),‎ Dennis M. Ritchie (Author)
https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Langu…

Now some like C++. Some do not, they prefer to use their own object orientation methods with pointer to function in C. C++ gives standardized ways to do this. But I also point out that most of the extreme susceptibility to virus programs found in things like the old versions of Microsoft Windows is from the use of pointer to function, or swaping data with executable code. Most attack routes could be closed of if this were not allowed. But most advanced sorts of programming do require it.

The C++ Programming Language, 4th Edition 4th Edition
by Bjarne Stroustrup
https://www.amazon.com/C-Programming-Lan…

There are mountains of other books about these languages, going beyond the basics, and into stylistic matters. Many are extremely good.

There is also C#, coming from Microsoft, and I still have not figured out what the intended purpose of that is.

Not seen this before, but looks most interesting:

C Language Algorithms for Digital Signal Processing (1991)
https://www.amazon.com/Language-Algorith…

And now this too:

C++ Algorithms for Digital Signal Processing
https://www.amazon.com/Algorithms-Digita…

And this:
Designing Audio Effect Plug-Ins in C++: With Digital Audio Signal Processing Theory

https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Audio-E…

and of course this:

Numerical Recipes in C++: The Art of Scientific Computing
https://www.amazon.com/Numerical-Recipes…

And dozens and dozens of more. Only way to evaluate them is to read them, or to be part of a team that reads and reviews them. :) :) :)

SJG
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Hate to say it but SQL is just not enough anymore (if it ever was) if you don't know R and Python programming now days good luck getting a job in data (SAS is dead)

GACA, thanks for that info.

How about C#, I have never figured out what it is supposed to be for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_Sharp_%2…

I can see why one would want a language with these properties, but why this one? Other than to be able to put the Microsoft copyright on it, I have not been able to figure out any reason for it.

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widely known to have been developed at IBM

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Yes, well things like C and HTML for example, are often not very readable.

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I am familiar to a greater or lesser degree with all of the above, but I do not have specific books which I can endorse.

SJG
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How about Forth?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forth_(pro…

I have not used this and I do not have any books to endorse. But for so long this was considered to be the most forward looking of languages. Does anyone use it today? Is there something else which has taken its place?

I guess also I can ask about LISP, and there was a newer AI language.

Then COBOL and ALGOL, how much are these used today?

And about LISP and AI, some feel that special AI languages are a hindrance and that it is actually just as easy to set up your own ways to do the same in the terseness of C. At least from my limited vantage point, I am inclined to agree.

SJG

How about PASCAL? Some have said that it is more popular in Europe. I did some stuff once which depended upon being able to link object modules from C to PASCAL.

PASCAL is strongly typed and I do not object to this. In using C, I am very careful to avoid weird stuff which will make unfounded assumptions about compilers and various machines. C works for me because I impose my own strict discipline.

I have used primary source PASCAL books, but I do not remember the names of the authors. How much is it used today, need different languages for different purposes.

Not sure that PASCAL allows pointer to function and arrays of pointers to function, like C does, and most object orientation approaches depend upon this. It is treacherous if you screw up. But one learns not to screw up.

ADA, told that this was derived from PASCAL, but never used it.

FORTRAN, used extensively, never liked it. But the new versions are better. One problem was not being able to do dynamic memory allocations, unless you fudge it and just make a huge array. I believe though that the newest versions have fixed this. Don't know who uses this today, but I am told that use is still strong.

O'Reilly entered the market with some of the best books, no nonsense, but complete and understandable.

I look at their website and I see lots of boosting stuff. I hope they have not changed.

And then compiler and other programming tools for all this, things have changed.

SJG

Christ what decade do you live in, san_jose_fag?

This thread reminds me of using dos to try to configure enough ram to run new dos based games that used something like 680k ram or more. I was glad I never got a job programming after thousands lost their jobs due to outsourcing with foreign competition.

Need old books and new books. And also, non-web, non-windows, programs are the kinds which are best for complex scientific calculations. They are the only kind which go fast enough. Same for modern embedded and signal process applications.

And Rick999, yes, good point, the old character screen dos, running with that 640k memory limit was hard to work with. In part a legacy of the 20bit addressing system of the 8086 processors.

And you talk about configuration. Remember that DOS used a config.sys file. You try to make everything work with just one, but this is not always possible.

So I made a reboot program, using the Assembler. Of course this starts the CPU at its original start up address. But this alone is not enough. I think DOS and the BIOS were designed to prevent accidental reboots. So I had to one by one set all the CPU registers back to 0000. This included the 4x segment registers too. So it had to be done in the right order. Then finally, the IP register, and the machine reboot would occur. The .bat file never got to finish.

So this was on an automation system. We had .bat files to copy new files to config.sys and autoexec.bat. They they would run my reboot.exe.

It worked.

Now the CPU had other states than the software accessible registers. It was not a chip reset. But it still worked. There were lots of co-processors too, and these were not getting reset, but it still worked.

This was all before they started building software shutdown and restart into the boards, like with a capacitor time constant, and into windows.

But my way still worked, and was a work around for the 640k limitation.

When that was not enough, I just ported the code to a Sun 3 or Sun 4, with lots more memory and a virtual memory system. But funny thing, if it was a large Sun server system, unless you logged on to the system console as root and set the job priority so that almost nothing else could happen, the Sun was not that much faster than say a 20Mhz 386 PC.

SJG

Yardbirds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ULMxxl…

Drawing on some old memory banks last night it came to me that the inventor of the PASCAL programming language was Niklaus Wirth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklaus_Wi…

And yes, I even recognize the cover of this book. This was the one I was using, along with of course the manuals from the compiler provider.

Pascal User Manual and Report: ISO Pascal Standard
https://www.amazon.com/Pascal-User-Manua…

This was for Pascal what Kernighan and Ritchie would become for C.

Wirth has other books, and there are books about him. Well stocked libraries like the one's my group will build, will have all such books, plus a comparable number of new ones.

PASCAL is very rigid in typing, and it also complies in runtime bounds checkings. This slows it down.

I still did like it though. I think most microcomputer people found it to be the alternative to BASIC. And then I don't see how anyone would want to use FORTRAN unless they had to, though I certainly have made ample use of it, and I believe people still do.

I believe that C was a reaction against PASCAL, very terse, zero training wheels. If you screw anything up, the program crashes.

It would be very hard though to teach beginners to use it, too many concepts that they assume you already fully understand. I used it, for one thing, because UNIX was completely based on it.

I am told that ADA is based on PASCAL, but I do not have any first hand feel for this, or for the efficacy of ADA.

SJG

Mister Bond - A Jazzy Cocktail Of Ice Cold Themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVQ8lpPu…

Great choice of old languages no one has really used for decades.

What Computers Still Can't Do: A Critique of Artificial Reason Revised ed.
Hubert Dreyfus
https://www.amazon.com/What-Computers-St…

This is a brilliant critique of the entire AI project, especially as it first started at MIT with Marvin Minsky, in the late 50's. Dreyfus actually left MIT and came to UC Berkeley because of his difference in views.

Suffice to say, I agree with it, and see the 'expert system's' or natural language, or rules inference approach to AI as idiotic. And this still applies today.

I must add though, that I do still see rules inference as a good way to write certain types of programs.

Dreyfus and his brother Stuart have other books about AI and Computer Issues. Hubert was a leading authority on Martin Heidegger's :Being In Time".

SJG

Mister Bond - A Jazzy Cocktail Of Ice Cold Themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVQ8lpPu…

You act like you are stuck in some kind of time warp SJG. Its like that scene in Fight Club where crazy Ed Norton is reading those crappy old books in the dilapidated old house library. Maybe you sell books in some second hand store and reading all this random crap and surfing the net while you are sitting around reminising on your past. I suppose it could also be the institutions dated library of donated books. Either way we dont care about computer languages from 20 fking years ago in a Strip Club Forum. Seriously how dull can you make these threads!!! Whats next? Treatises on sailing ships from the 16th century?

Prolog, that was the other special "AI" language. Don't know who really uses that.

So with the above caveat, I can endorse:

AI and expert systems : a comprehensive guide, C language / Robert I. Levine, Diane E. Drang, Barry Edelson. (1990 )

Levine believes that Lisp and Prolog are hindrances to use of AI techniques.

So again, not going along with AI or expert systems, still rules inference can be a useful technique, especially for when you want to make a computer keep watch on something autonomously.

SJG

UptightCitizen, maybe you have something useful to contribute to this thread. Otherwise I would suggest that you just go back to chewing on redwood tree bark.

SJG

If think @SJG might be living back in the days before his mental illness really took over. Back when PASCAL was big.

Lots of need to get back to smaller scale systems, for embedded and real time. More open, anyone can write programs for these.

Just saw this book:

Learning PHP, MySQL & JavaScript: With jQuery, CSS & HTML5 (Learning Php, Mysql, Javascript, Css & Html5) 4th Edition
by Robin Nixon

https://www.amazon.com/Learning-PHP-MySQ…

Yes, lots of handy copies of this and Nixon's other books in libraries. And O'Reilly is outstanding.

The organization I am building will build fantastic libraries with all of these book, plus comparable numbers of new ones. To be well grounded in a field you need access to books both old and new.

SJG

Pink Floyd - Animals, full album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8puJpOQ…

Remember that Phoenix Linker?

I think it was made by the same company that made the legendary BIOSes.

Unlike the Microsoft Linker, the Phoenix Linker gave you a very high degree of control over the code overlays, making it so parts were swapped out as you desired.

You could use less of the 640k for your program, and have more for its data, using the Phoenix Linker.

But, the Phoenix Linker would not let you call from object module to object module via pointer to function. So this had to be worked around.

But of course this was all before everything went to Windows and its System Development Kit, and the Microsoft Dynamic Link Library approach. So I doubt there are any remaining traces of this Phoenix Linker. Getting harder and harder for little guys to write programs anymore, or for anyone to use a PC to make anything which is reliable enough for real time.

SJG

The Art of Computer Programming, Volumes 1-4A Boxed Set
Donald E. Knuth
https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Programm…

Years ago, Keplers in Menlo Park was selling copies signed by the author.

Real good if you need to do something which starts at ground zero, like your own ways of representing floating point numbers and doing arithmetic on them. Stuff like that, starting from scratch in an environment.

SJG

Read years back, very good. Has CD Rom with code. Scalable embedded OS for you to use. But more fun to learn their concepts and write your own.

Embedded systems building blocks : complete and ready-to-use modules in C / Jean J. Labrosse (2000)

The following books I just found via catalog searching for above.

Embedded C programming and the Atmel AVR / Richard Barnett, Larry O'Cull, Sarah Cox (2003)

Fundamentals of embedded software : where C and assembly meet / Daniel W. Lewis. (2002)

C programming for embedded systems / Kirk Zurell (2000)

Programming embedded systems in C and C++ / Michael Barr. (1999 O'Reilly )

Reusable software components : object-oriented embedded systems programming in C / Ted Van Sickle (1997)


FWIW, I do like the C language, object oriented programming techniques, and use of pointer to function. But I am also sensitive to the fact that some feel that all of these methods lower the safety and reliability, and make programs grossly over size, like say for example MS Windows. So I still want to learn more.

Anyone else have feelings about this?

OT: Book Publishing Industry
https://www.tuscl.net/?page=post&id=5072…

SJG

Pink Floyd - Animals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfRWTg61…

Compilers: Principles, Techniques, and Tools, old book, but many more new ones now. This one, as I know, often used at Stanford 1986
https://www.amazon.com/Compilers-Princip…

SJG

SJG Chronicles
https://www.tuscl.net/?page=post&id=4163…

Time to get your (psycho) brain in the 21st century, @SJG!

^^^^^^^^ If someday Dougster just vanishes and never returns, I think we can presume that he must have been driving in the last of those prototype cars that Chairman Bill fixed up with its anti-lock brakes running on Windows and Internet Explorer.

For the rest of us, there is a huge need for embedded and real time systems, and they cannot use some of these huge and unreliable software environments of the last 25 years.

SJG

So what about Borland Turbo PASCAL and Turbo C?

I never liked these because they seemed like beginner's toys, not things for professional use.

They had interpreters. Interesting, but that is how the languages are intended to work.

So what became of Borland?

Well, Borland had purchased Ashton Tate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borland

now part of Micro Focus
https://www.microfocus.com/borland/?utm_…

https://www.microfocus.com/

They also talk about COBOL. Do people still use COBOL?

SJG

Opensources : voices from the open source revolution / edited by Chris DiBona, Sam Ockman & Mark Stone. 1999

Above was where I first learned of ECO, and open source hard core real time scalable open source operating system. As I see it, that is 100% cool!

If it does not still exist or has serious problems, I'll write the new one myself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECos

Micro Computers were supposed to be open and flexible. And before Bill Gates and Steve Jobs they were. Now they are not, basically just appliances, more than being tools.

Borland? COBOL? WTF? What century is this @SJG? Did you not do any programming after you went psycho? Which appears to be over 20 years agao.

Outdated or not, I would think C++ is still worth learning since it forces you to understand things like pointers, references, memory management, object-oriented programming etc
. If you know C++ you can pick up anything else quickly.

And it's still the fastest around (unless you want to do assembly). Won't say it's going to help you much with functional programming. But that's mainly just for people in ivory towers anyway, right?

I agree fully about the efficacy of C/C++

It is just that there are some applications which don't require that degree of low level control, and where the speed does not have much to do with the language, but with the things it is implicitly calling.

Maybe this is what is know as functional programming?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional…

And as far as Dougster, this world needs people who have depth of perspective. I believe there are people who still use Fortran and Cobol, and there likely is some legacy of Borland.

For MS to have gone to Windows only, not running under a command line interpreter, is a big big loss, and one which for many applications needs to be reversed.

Yes, newest version of Fortran planed for 2018. So someone must use it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortran

Cobal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL#Lega…

Yes, still heavily utilized and a 2014 version.

Anyone use C# or .NET? Not clear to me what the efficacy of those are.

Lots of things use C like syntax, but there are not fully compiled or running on Operating System only.

SJG

Okay, so we have this about PHP, MySQL, and JavaScript.
https://www.amazon.com/Learning-PHP-MySQ…

I want to see what their is on Cobol and Fortran, books wise.

Advanced Finite Element Simulation with MSC Marc [electronic resource] : Application of User Subroutines / by Zia Javanbakht, Andreas ©ئchsner. (2017), USES FORTRAN

Modern Fortran in practice / Arjen Markus ; with foreword by Michael Metcalf. (2012)

Lots of post 2010 books about Fortran, seeming to be about finite element analysis.



Cobol

COBOL software modernization : from principles to iplementation with the BLU AGE ® method / Franck Barbier, Jean-Luc Recoussine. (2015).

Other new books relating Cobol to Java

An introduction to object COBOL / E. Reed Doke, Bill C. Hardgrave (1998)

COBOL programmer's notebook / Jim Keogh. (1998)

COBOL for dummies, 1997

Structured COBOL programming / Nancy Stern, Robert A. Stern. 1997


Now while at it, how about ADA?

Ada's legacy / Robin Hammerman, Andrew L. Russell., 2016

Analysable real-time systems : programmed in Ada / Alan Burns and Andy Wellings. 2016

Programming in Ada 2012 / John Barnes.

Building parallel, embedded, and real-time applications with Ada / John W. McCormick, Frank Singhoff [and] Jérôme Hugues 2011

Now, how about the language R, which GACA mentioned?

R for Microsoft Excel users : making the transition for statistical analysis / Conrad Carlberg. 2017

Beginning data science in R : data analysis, visualization, and modelling for the data scientist / Thomas Mailund 2017

Using the R commander : a point-and-click interface for R / John Fox 2017

And GACA also mentioned Python

Python without fear : a beginner's guide that makes you feel smart / Brian Overland. 2018

Here also, check out this:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/language

/Programming_languages_used_in_most_popular_websites
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmin…

ASP.NET
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASP.NET

and finally, new books about PASCAL?
Practical compiling with Pascal-S / Michael Rees, Dave Robson 1988

Less staying power than Fortran or Cobol, probably because more hobby oriented, not IBM Mainframe oriented.

Written at CSU San Luis Obispo, and in Pascal, for MS-DOS, now for Lynux
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~mmic/puffind…

Probably good:
Refactoring SQL applications / Stéphane Faroult with Pascal L'Hermite 2008, O'Reilly

SJG

So how about Forth?

Intelligent embedded systems / Louis L. Odette 1991, talks about C, prolog,and Forth

Pocket guide to FORTH / Linda Baker [and] Mitch Derick ( 1983 )

FORTH on the Atari : learning by using / E. Floegel ( 1983 )

So no, I'm not seeing much recent action, but I still believe there could be much to learn from it.

SJG

So, finding no use of Forth, and not really of ADA. PASCAL use is limited. But FOTRAN and COBOL are still used, then with C/C++, R, Python, and SQL.

But all still worth learning more about.

Now, how about UNIX Shells?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_shell

So I've used borne, korn, and the C-Shell. This later they way was written by Bill Joy at UC Berkely.

And then there are both older and newer shells.

As I see it, this kind of pipe lining is one of the most important aspects of Unix.

And damn it, MS-DOS, running on smaller and less costly machines, was getting like that, from DOS 3.0 forwards!

And I had bought this disk full of the source code for a whole bunch of Unix like utilties, like GREP, but for MS-DOS. Things were cool.

But then there was Windows, and in the wake of the OS-2 failure, Windows taking over.

Windows is very good for some types of apps, even necessary. But it should not take over and destroy that shell type environ.

So the rise of Unix, in my mind, is inseparable from UC Berkeley, the rise of Sun Microsystems and Bill Joy. And then there was this "SPRINT", a faster Unix variant?

So does this Python compile to machine code and run on the operating system, or is it kind of like an expanded C-Shell?

Used to be an Apple Unix. Still continuing? Maybe not.

And then of course Linux.

And then the Nicholas Wirth OS, and then there was this Be OS. And then loads and loads of Embedded and Real Time OS's

A decade ago they were saying that Linux had a huge share of the WWW server installations. And it tended to be LAMP ( Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP ), but then they were also using client side scripting ( like JavaScript and other HTML extensions ).

Still like above?

File name extensions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filename_e…

List:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fi…

says ASP and ASPX are:
ActiveX Server Pages of Microsoft.Net

Has Chairman Bill again been able to take over?

SJG

I'm going to start with the above books about Forth, not because they are recent or anyone seems to use Forth, but because I know there is much I will learn from looking at it. Then at the discussions of ADA

Don't have much in terms of new books on PASCAL programming, so I will review the Niklaus Wirth standard book.

Don't know anything about this visual Oberon, its special programming language, or its visual interface. Need to learn. I know it is not used, all the more reason I need to learn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon_(op…

FWIW, I am becoming ever more painfully aware that most people, including myself do not have access to adequate libraries. Even large universities do not necessarily have such. So they use more book sharing. UC and CSU do this.

In the organization I am working to build, this deficit will be corrected for our people.

SJG

youtube terminates exploitive kids channel
https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/17/youtub…

Stones, awesome long playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC0Qt1lv…

Project Oberon
http://www.projectoberon.com/

SJG

Niklaus Wirth, retired professor:
https://www.inf.ethz.ch/personal/wirth/

Mentioned this before:

Finite Elements For Electrical Engineers, Peter P. Silvester and Ronald L. Ferrari.

1996 third edition, but originally 1983.

Says to use Fortran, Pascal, or C.

But the examples in the book, dated 1995, are in Fortran.

So my question is, would a younger person already highly fluent in C/C++ have any reason to want to start something new in Fortran? How about PASCAL, as that seems to have now less of a legacy than Fortran or Cobol?

Quite a hard core book, computing things like magnetic saturation and the operation of antennae.

Lots of extensive mathematical runtimes for Fortran and for C, maybe even for Pascal, like complex numbers, roots of polynomial, rational polynomials, and matrices of rational polynomials. Lots of signal processing stuff too, even simulation while in the middle of real time control.

This book is cataloged as Electrical Engineering TK, not as Systems Theory Q, Math QA, or Physics QC.

I have had lots of stuff where the older portions or the connection to something commercial is in PASCAL, but the new work was in C. Once you figure out how to do it, no big deal, except that you have to have both runtime libraries in the .exe.

Of the run time bounds checking which is in Fortran and Pascal, but not C, it should be possible to make those instead into things which can be turned on or off at will.

But I believe that only C has pointer to function, and then formalized in C++. For some stuff, that is the fastest way, mattering if it is at the core of some intense computations. Otherwise the speed not mattering.

Only way I can really develop a feel for this is to read the old books. Access to info via Internet and old books is better now than decades back. And this is important.

Nikalus Wirth, a programming language for PIC Microcontrollers. Now that is tiny!
https://www.inf.ethz.ch/personal/wirth/P…

2013 edition!

And the Oberon operating system, tiles instead of windows. MS Windows 1.0 was like that. I used to call it "Tiles".

For process control you really don't want overlapping windows or scroll bars. You want all important data to be on the screen at all times, and this to be so no matter who the operator is. And you won't be expecting the computer to be doing anything else while it is controlling. You take over the machine and have your own protocols for mutitasking and overlay swapping and data file creation, and for all communications.

Mac-OS and MS-Windows have their advantages in highly user interactive and screen oriented things. But otherwise no. And to be copying and pasting text from window to window, I have always found that making it like tiles is much better.

Anyone remember that 'Brief' text editor for DOS. It was awesome. Tiles only. No scroll bars.

http://briefeditor.com/

You need something like this for C, because with large programs always having multiple source files and all the header files and include files, and the lengthy variable and function names, its all cutting and pasting.

For process control, you want a screen more like Brief, but set up by the application, so it is fixed, not set up by the human operator.

Everything changed with Chairman Bill and the move to .DLL. Arguably the right way, more efficient. But I tell you, most Windows stuff is slug slow, compared to say that Brief Editor for DOS.

SJG

Joni Mitchell - Amelia (Live 1979)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxMwGTQ1…

Object-oriented programming in Pascal : a graphical approach / D. Brookshire Conner, David Niguidula, Andries van Dam. ( 1995 )

Mastering C++ : an introduction to C++ and object-oriented programming for C and Pascal programmers / Cay S. Horstmann. ( 1991 )

Object-oriented programming in Turbo Pascal 5.5 / Ben Ezzell ( 1989 )

The above 3 books look interesting, as recent as 1995, because they advocate a lesser followed way, PASCAL for object oriented programming. Though not what in intend to do, still could be most illuminative.

SJG

Foreigner: i just died in your arms tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxcFZTa-…

I want to know what love is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raNGeq3_…

Ctrl+Alt+SJG

https://www.ubuntu.com/

Ubuntu Linux, some have called this a "low latency linux", and some in the DIY audio community use Ubuntu Linux for digital audio. Of course they turn as much stuff, like the Internet, off as possible. But to me, this still seems just the wrong way to approach real time. You want a hard core real time OS, and Linux / Unix was never designed for such.

People have talked about Hardening Linux

http://www.apress.com/us/book/9781590594…

Some years back, when MS-Windows was such a humiliating spectacle, people became very aware of virus attacks. Some OS's really are made to be hard to attack.

And then Monta Vista, Hard Hat Linux
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MontaVista

I am sure this has legitimate uses, but I still don't see it as good for close loop real time. But I know that some others resist this view.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MontaVista


Looks like Caldera does not exit anymore. Concern, as they had bought ECOS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caldera_Op…

SCO? Chairman Bill's Santa Cruz Operation, for UNIX?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO/Linux_…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_Group

http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/ldist/…

Well, Red Hat still seems to run
https://www.redhat.com/en

100 E. Davie Street
Raleigh, NC 27601

but other locations too, lots of them:
150 Mathilda PlaceSuite: 500Sunnyvale, CA 94086United States

All products
https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/a…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECos

http://ecos.sourceware.org/

ecos seems to be real, but seemingly cut lose from Red Hat. Red Boot had been derived from the red hat name.

Most recent web site additions, 2015.

says, "We acknowledge the support of Red Hat to the open source community in providing the computing resources at ecos.sourceware.org."

wikipedia criticism of ecos:

"
The FreeBSD TCP/IP network stack included with eCos is out of date (circa 2001) and exposes systems to numerous security and stability vulnerabilities (FreeBSD RELENG 4 4 0 RELEASE for IPv4 and FreeBSD's origin KAME for IPv6). Official eCos maintainers do not appear to monitor FreeBSD or KAME for security or stability updates, but rather rely on minimal and insufficient bug reports from users of eCos.[citation needed]

The SNMP package is rudimentary at best, once again, apparently due to its age.[
"

Lots and lots of Real Time OS's. Of course almost all C / C++ based

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison…

SJG

I have maximum respect for this:
https://www.gnu.org/

SJG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeRTOS

SJG

Will be reading: PASCAL : user manual and report / Kathleen Jensen, Niklaus Wirth.
Originally 1974, latest version 1991. I'm getting that latest version.

I have read the above mostly, long ago. I used to use PASCAL all the time and had some big programs in it. But my main source book was just the Microsoft manual.

Niklaus Wirth DOB 1934
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklaus_Wi…

Wirth was the chief designer of the programming languages Euler, Algol W, Pascal, Modula, Modula-2, Oberon, Oberon-2, and Oberon-07. He was also a major part of the design and implementation team for the Lilith and Oberon operating systems, and for the Lola digital hardware design and simulation system.

So if he was involved in these other languages, does this mean that he was renouncing PASCAL?

Martin Rieser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Rie…

http://www.martinrieser.com/

So we also have:
Programming in Oberon : steps beyond Pascal and Modula / Martin Reiser and Niklaus Wirth. (1992)

Does this mean that Wirth was renouncing PASCAL? And why?

C was the first time that the specialized and limited audience developers could be using what the OS and major pro application developers were using.

Before getting to Object Oriented Programming in C++, want to look at it in C.

Like this, old book:
Objective-C : object-oriented programming techniques / Lewis J. Pinson, Richard S. Wiener ( 1991 )

ALso have this programming language, Eiffel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_(pr…

Says ideas from it made it into Java and Ada

Integrated development environment ( usually that means it is shit )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EiffelStud…

Seems to be its own company too.

Anyway, people learn for if they can have the old books besides the new books, as they can learn to see the history of how the ideas developed.

Here, about C and Eiffel:
Object technology for scientific computing : object-oriented numerical software in Eiffel and C / Paul F. Dubois ( 1997 )

We also have Ruby, and it borrowed from Lisp and SmallTalk
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ruby_Progr…

SmallTalk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalltalk

Seems to me that with C there were basically two period, you could call the Old C, when it was kind of an insider thing, and then ANSI C. With the latter they did try to put some training wheels on it. With the former, pretty much anything went, did not have to have header files or anything.

But then with ANSI, they seemed to want to leave the power in it, but stop making it so easy to screw up. They wanted you to use "cast" we addressing variables and structures of variables as though they were something else. You could do what you wanted, but they seemed to want to put a stop to senseless showing off.

They first though tried to prohibit NULL pointers, which had always been used as the signal for an uninitialized pointer. That prohibition standard only last a few hours.

SJG

Yardbirds Tangerine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4p7q_2g…

Led Zeppelin - For Your Love - rare live tape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wg-9fHY…

Yardbirds, Train Kept A Rolling, 1968 French TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y078n95…

Dazed and Confused
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRq7j-BS…

And after NaturalSelection gets pushed out the last shift register, its the bit bucket for him:

http://mecox.com/images/uploads/pets/380…

Open Source Operating System Comparison
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison…

This FreeRTOS looks good, for some things, and then also this Free DOS. Seems like you need a progression from hard RTOS, back to maybe this Free DOS, then to hardened low latency Linux ( ubuntu? ), and then a more typical full muti-user Linux, and then finally back to the garbage realm of MS-Windows.

So then about FreeRTOS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeRTOS

Atmel ARM MCU's
http://www.atmel.com/products/microcontr…

Atmel, ARM 11
http://www.datasheetarchive.com/ARM11%20…
???????

ARM Cores
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AR…

Free RTOS .org
http://www.freertos.org/

Real Time Engineers Ltd.
Suite 36
71-75 Shelton Street
Covent Garden
London
WC2H 9JQ

FreeRTOS books and manuals
http://www.freertos.org/Documentation/RT…


SJG


New Indian made large motorcycle:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies…

CSNY Live, 1970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoHKV3Ar…

Crosby Stills Nash & Young - VH1 Legends Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeEWMnRc…

Neil Young & Crazy Horse, Austin City Limits, 1/13/2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJge17ks…

Real-time embedded components and systems : with Linux and RTOS / Sam Siewart, John Pratt. (2016)

MicroC/OS-II : the real-time kernel / Jean J. Labrosse ( 1999 ) skimmed through years ago, has C based RTOS in the book and on its CD.

SJG

^^^ psycho

^^^ Continuation of the Nazi Party

^^^ loses AGAIN by Godwin's Law!

LOL! Doesn't really seem able to learn either.

^^^^^^ You've mentioned this Godwin many times. Likely he is a Nazi, just as you are.

SJG

Serious Shooting In Cleveland

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/12-old-boy-sho…

Circuit Design Using Personal Computers, by Thomas Cuthbert, 1983

https://www.amazon.com/Circuit-Design-Us…

Sounds like a silly book, but actually very rigorous, and highly relevant today! He has a second book as well.



SJG

Serious Shooting In Cleveland

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/12-old-boy-sho…

How about Manufacturing Execution Systems? As I know these are an expanded version of Work In Process Systems.

This seems to address the scope of the subject:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufactur…

Anyone know of a good book about such things, and more about the full scope of this subject.

Applying manufacturing execution systems / Michael McClellan (1997), not that new

SJG

Peter Frampton - Do you feel like we do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Yq5m9e…

Good: The Communist Manifesto: An Analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_2hNngV…

RS-485
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-485

In my opinion this is greatly underused.

RS-232 is too limited, and by the specs, it requires both + and - 12 volts.

RS-485 requires only +5, full duplex, and with addressing. Could use it for an enhanced MIDI, and for all manner of industrial controls and home automation.

Lots of stuff using USB, but cabling too expensive, too hard to put connectors on. Speed not needed for most things.

MIDI Man uses USB on their keyboards, but not necessary.

For so many things, RS-485 great.

Not for digital media. Other ways to do that, best not to use any TCP-IP, though many refuse to understand this.

For so many things, RS-485 great!

consider this book
Handbook of serial communications interfaces : a comprehensive compendium of serial digital input/output (I/o) standards / Louis E. Frenzel Jr. ( 2016 )
Newnes books are always good.

SJG

SJG, do you like to talk to yourself as you do in this thread?

It appears as you are the only contributor to this topic.

Just a few people that have made relevant comments. Gaffigan, you are not one of them.

SJG

1984, start of the Phoenix BIOS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_o…

Phoenix Technologies, HQ in Massachusetts and Campbell CA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Te…

There other products, especially that overlay linker:
"Phoenix also developed C language libraries, called PForCe, along with Plink-86/Plink-86plus, overlay linkers, and Pfix-86, a windowed Debugger for DOS."

Any call for this today? No more tight memory constraints, but also I think Microsoft's Dynamic Link Library approach gets around the problem anyway.

SJG

^^^ Apparently SJG you haven't made any relevant comments either, when you discuss outdated language Pascal and others. Not sure if you're up to speed on the nuance of societal norms, but you apparently have a fascination with the obscure. Not only are you outside of the box, you're out of bounds. Intelligence is knowing your limits.

Gaffigan, for you intelligence would be knowning when you need to STFU.


appears to be about Phoenix BIOS
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www…

So Phoenix Technologies is still running!
https://www.phoenix.com/

Not sure what this is:
https://docs.chaosgroup.com/display/PHX3…

Data Visualization, Edward Tufte
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tuf…

Yes, this is a famous book:
The Visual Display of Quantitative InformationJan 2001
by Edward R. Tufte

https://www.amazon.com/Visual-Display-Qu…


Gantt and Pert Charts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gantt_char…

Software, books about this field? I have used such software. But, one temptation is to set it all up as Pert, trying to define all the dependencies. And the let the computer construct the Gantt.

I have found that this does not work well. There are always other unstated constraints and expectations, like preliminary results, which influence how you want it done. And then the more you keep breaking up the tasks, the more the influence of the dependencies is broken up.

So what I have found works is just to forget about Pert Charts, and must manually make Gantt Charts, just do it the way you want to, the way that seems right.

And with groups I have managed, it has worked well just to have eveyone make their own Gantt Charts, using what every graphical tools they want, but without a computer really constructing it. This has always worked well for me, it keeps the people able to work on things in the short term, while keeping the longer range objectives in view. If only other departments were being run that way. And of course I won't hire people that aren't capable of thinking this way.

The Gantt chart : a working tool of management
Clark, Wallace, 1880-1948
London : Pitman, [1952]

The Gantt Chart: A Working Tool of Management (Classic Reprint)Apr 22, 2017
by Wallace Clark

Project Management For DummiesApr 22, 2013
by Stanley E. Portny, looks quite good
https://www.amazon.com/Project-Managemen…

open source software:
Mastering the Gantt Chart: Understand and use the "Gantt Project" open source software efficiently! (eGuide Education Book 1)Jan 30, 2017
by Olivier Rebière and Cristina Rebière

https://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Gantt-C…

SJG

I have used C# for twelve years. The sweet spot appears to be internal, sub-ledger accounting windows applications at banks or insurance or accounting firms and/or internal, intranet web applications at banks . . . and occasionally a small external web application? But, Java is a huge competitor to C#. They are basically equal in features and functionality. The religious programmers may argue back and forth, but just like SQL Server vs. Oracle, they have basic feature parity for most typical scenarios barring edge cases.

The older I get the more open-minded I get and the less hardcore on any given language or tool . . . like a musical instrument, the skill of the performer may be more important than the limits and/or features of the instrument itself?

I learned a bit of F# and Scala. I find these interesting. But, Microsoft tacked on so many of the features of F# onto C# recently that I find less of a need for F#. I think of it like C# without the curly braces. But, functional programming may also have a niche fit for heavily mathematical applications, I suppose? I could see using it here and there in small places . . .

What's funny to me is Powershell which could have been C# Script, if Microsoft had merely maintained the same syntax in this new language.

SJG the correct sentence is “want to listen” not talk.., you won’t learn anything new, by revision of what you already know even if what you know is wrong

I think functional languages are definitely useful in mathematical domains. Oddly enough though, most of the low level code is going to be C++, however, for speed. For high level investigations (data analysis) alot of it will be in Python. Functional programming is in about the middle: for software that needs to be maintained across a group of people and has passed the prototype stage. Definitely helps said people like to think mathematically.

Best application for functional languages seems to be compilers and interpreters.

Okay, so I need still to come up with books on Lisp, Prolog, and Perl. And I want to read about Wirth's OS Oberon, and see if it signaled him abandoning in the PASCAL language, and if so, why.

Anyone ever use RBASE?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R:Base

SJG

@SJG's brain is made out of shit.

PASCAL is impressive. And it makes you think about how computers actually do things. But I feel that it is just an evolution, Algol, PL/1, Fortran, to PASCAL. But then to C.

No, C is not for beginners, they had been learning from PASCAL. But today I know that they use other things.

PASCAL makes light use of dynamic memory allocation. Instead memory is allocated in the most common way, by throwing things onto the stack. Doesn't seem to have pointer to function, and as I see it, you need that.

SJG

Marxism 101: How Capitalism is Killing Itself with Dr. Richard Wolff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P97r9Ci…

How Class Works In The US
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euH3pAuL…

Suspect in 35 yo mass murder on Alaska fishing boat breaks silence:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/exon…

Book about cult leaders that I have long wanted to read:
https://www.amazon.com/Feet-Clay-Anthony…

Runs from Gurdjieff and Ignatius of Loyola, thorough to Rajneesh.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alanamohamed/13…

Australian wives furious over proposal to send sex workers to troops - Sounds Awesome! Strip club style front room, brothel style back room, always the best because it is the most flexible and conducive to GFE auditions.
https://nypost.com/2017/12/07/military-w…

https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Mental-Illne…

C is more streamlined, but in terms of bit manipulation, it actually lets you do more.

SJG

In programming, you always have the inside of the program versus the outside. And as the programs get more and more powerful, you want the outside user to be able to direct the inside operations. The user can give data input, but they cannot externally alter the function of the program. So the tendency is going to be to let data direct the flow. Now you can have conditional and switch statements. But as I see it, pointer to function is more elegant, and I think it executes faster. So people are going to want pointer to function.

As I see it, this is what "Object Oriented" means, taking down the strict wall between data and function.

So you will want Object Oriented and Pointer to Function.

But, as I know this is complicated, I am reading all of these books, historical books, to see how the ideas developed, not just new books.

SJG

How Capitalism is Destroying Itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euH3pAuL…

Anyone besides me ever use R:BASE?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R:Base

Seems like it still exists, though I know there will be other things too. They claim it is SQL compliant. I found much value in it, but also short comings. Too slow because it kept all the data on hard disc, so if you tried to PROJECT ( relating two tables ) it could easily take hours. We had to work around this.

But the idea always impressed me. And we had a library for C programs to directly access the data base. Should have used this more, and done stuff in core memory. Probably very fast.

4th Generation Programming Languages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-gen…

To refresh my memory, and as help in giving me currency and greater depth of understanding, I am going to get:

R:Base solutions : applications and resources / Microrim, [Jayne Vitulli, editor] 1988

http://www.rbase.com/
Murrysville, Pennsylvania, 15 miles east of Pittsburg, continuing on would take you to Altoona, where Penn State has its rail transit engineering program, for those of you who like me prefer your toys to be 12" to the foot.

Is there any relation to the GNU R programming language?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_(program…

Articles about R:BASE
http://www.razzak.com/fte/

http://www.razzak.com/strengths/

R:BASE versus the others:
http://www.razzak.com/fte/pdf/rbasevsthe…

"R:BASE is slow and others are faster"

Sounds like they are very confident with their new versions. They offer this evaluation edition:

http://www.rbase.com/evaluation/32

The reason it was slow was that if you were to PROJECT two tables, say 30 records, and 4000 records, then that meant 120,000 independent hard disk accesses. It could take hours and hours. Made no difference how large your new table would be. PROJECT is the main way you use relational databases, as I know. What was needed was just that they tried to load as much as possible into core memory, and do it that way.

We worked around it by radically cutting up the data into multiple databases. We did have to lower our expectations of having data at your finger tips, to making paper printouts and running overnight. We even bought this 64k printer buffer and a very fast printer, and had RBASE generate reports in cycles. The printer buffer gave close to a 2x speed improvement.

But writing our own C language application would have also done the job even better. As far as the basic logic and structure of R:BASE, I was always impressed by it.

SJG

https://www.amazon.com/Strange-Woman-Pow…

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41…

Las Chavelas Bar Gallery
http://www.laschavelasbar.com/gallery/
password: 28chavelas10

What is Marxism?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz3eOb6Y…

BART Through Downtown San Jose, A Tunnel? Cost, Time? That area has a very high water table.
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/BA…

Almost finished with Wirth's book. Then only two more Pascal only books. Then on to the R:Base book, then I will go to the Fortran books because Fortran has evolved so much over its long decades.

Everyone says that the computer field changes so fast that there is no need for the old books. Not true, old books are the best ways to learn how the ideas have developed. As I see, I will be wanting to collect them for my organization.

In reading about Fortran and Pascal I want to see if there is any reason to be ever starting a new project using them? Of this, I do not know. But people do still use them.

Wirth says that Algol, PL/1, and Fortran have been expanded to become more like Pascal.

SJG

Marxism 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz3eOb6Y…

Yardbirds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ULMxxl…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbC2Z74q…

Stones, Tempe, 1981, Under My Thumb, awesome well known performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03TYbIma…

Object-Oriented Programming in Turbo Pascal 5.5 Paperback – December 1, 1989
by Ben Ezzell

https://www.amazon.com/Object-Oriented-P…

An interesting book,an old book. Ezzell has written other books too, and they look good. Old computer books are important, as otherwise you cannot follow how the ideas developed.

For myself I always declined Borland Pascal, as it seemed like it was too bundled, likely intended for students and hobbyists. But so it looks like with this rev 5.5, they started to call it Object Pascal. They made additions to it. They added Global Variables. I don't think you really need this, you just make a big structure ( record in Pascal ) and pass a pointer to it. I can't really see yet what changes they made.

In my mind, you must have pointer to function. But I am not seeing it. Certainly it helps to be able to have it.

They reference Simula 67 as the original object oriented language. And they talk about SmallTalk and C++ and mention Bjarne Stroustrup. But they claim that SmallTalk and C++ did not take hold.

Simula 67
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simula

As I see it, as programs get larger and more complex, you develop very symmetrical and modularized ways of writing them. Central to this is keeping the internals isolated from module to module, and focusing the interaction to certain functions which are externally called, and then to some large data structures the program revolves around. So creating, and loading these structures will always be handled by dedicated function, with names using the same words. This then tends to support pointer to function use.

And then sometimes you have to write your own command and control languages, and process each of their reserved words. This also tends towards pointer to function.

And then with these graphical interfaces and wanting to make things multi threaded, and wanting to reuse modules, it is always push in the object oriented direction. Likewise with rules inference methods being used.

So the book says what I have read many places, going back decades,

The books says, Inheritance, Encapsulation, and Polymorphism.

Encapsulation is what I have been describing.

Inheritance is something completely formalized in C++, but it is about how these structures and the ways of handling them can be nested. I take it to mean like complex numbers, but made into polynomials, but then into rational polynomials, and then in to matrices, but the computer always keeps it all straightened out.

Polymorphism is that each object has an entire hierarchy of functions which include the same words in their naming, along with the data it self, that are dedicated to working together, but may be totally different from how other built objects are handled.

This book looks much better than what I had expected. There is GNU Pascal now, not sure if Borland Pascal still exists, but I guess they were trying to push the envelop. They had libraries of functions for making mouse driven and graphical applications, all pre-windows.

The book does not talk about MS-Windows, but it talks about OS-2 Presentation Manager. That makes me laugh. I feel that that would have been better than windows. A more mixed environment, command line and graphical, like another UNIX, developed from the ground up. I got burned by Chairman Bill dropping OS-2 and severing ties with IBM. A very negative development if you ask me.

SJG

Jeff Beck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXJQb7aI…

Want to continue to look at FreeRTOS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeRTOS

https://www.freertos.org/

Books and Manuals
https://www.freertos.org/Documentation/R…

Reference Manual pdf
https://www.freertos.org/Documentation/F…

Mastering the FreeRTOS™ pdf
Real Time Kernel pdf
https://www.freertos.org/Documentation/1…

Source Forge
https://sourceforge.net/projects/freerto…

SJG

Real good, pdf
https://www.freertos.org/Documentation/1…

Is this the new ECOS?

Object-oriented programming in Turbo Pascal 5.5 / Ben Ezzell ( 1989 )

Reading this. It is good. I though am not going to read it carefully enough to learn how to use Borland's "Object Pascal", I just want to understand the thinking involved.

They have added "objects" and "methods", but I don't see pointer to function. So I guess they were making it more like C++, than like C.

In my view, if you go their way, you will still be wanting pointer to function. But you will also eventually be wanting Dynamic Linking, Chairman Bill's .dll.

You would want this in order to be able to use data input to a program to draw in other objects / functions, by name, without recompiling or relinking. No way to do this without a .dll approach.

Borland Object Pascal does not lock you into officially declared and compiled in "methods", but the idea is that you are supposed to use them.

As I know, in that early 90's era, there was a huge market for "Class Libraries", the C++ version of the same thing. But better still to have the actual source code. It may be this Source Forge and the Free Software movement which today fills this need. Not sure.

Ezzell talks about Simula 67 preceding SmallTalk. Want to read about both those.

This Borland Object Pascal comes with an extensive library allowing you to make full graphically driven programs, like a precursor to Windows. Highly admirable, and especially since it was always $49.95.

Borland was trying to keep computers as tools, where you program them to make them do what you want. This is how they should be!

My objection to Chairman Bill is that though originally he supported this, as time went on he has turned them into fixed function appliances, where software is written by professional developers, and everyone else is just a Consumer-User.

Borland was fighting back. Needless to say, the organization I am developing, working in conjuction with others, will also be fighting back.

I am only planning on reading one more Pascal only book. It was to be,

Advanced Turbo Pascal version 4 : now includes Borland's Turbo Pascal Database Toolbox and Turbo Pascal Graphix Toolbox / Herbert Schildt ( 1988 )

I wanted to read about Borland and the Pascal to Database connection.

And this Herbert Schildt has written dozens of computer programming books. Right up to the present, C++ and Java. I will be reading his later stuff.

But my last purely Pascal book will be, one of the latest of the Borland Pascal books, just to look for how much they packed in, Object, Database.
Using Turbo Pascal 6.0 / Ben Ezzell ( 1991 )

SJG

All About Politicians Sexually Harassing Women, DJT, Roy Moore
https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2017/…

Again, real good pdf
https://www.freertos.org/Documentation/1…


Reading the above is highly recommended!

SJG

Continuing to read Ben Ezzell

I see now that they allow you to define a 'procedure' ( function in C) via something like 'circle.construct'.

What this means is you have a 'record' ( struct in C ) which has as one of its elements a 'procedure' ( function in C ). The idea is you have this object circle, and then this method construct, and this is an example of polymorphism as there is an entire class of things like circle and you have the methods to act upon them.

So while this is not exactly the overt creation of a pointer to function, this is how you would use pointer to function.

This is the first I have seen of this.

Now in C there are ways you could cross over pointer to function and pointer to data. I believe that that allows severe errors and security weaknesses, and especially if continued in Bill's .dll system which Windows runs on.

Nevertheless, this is all starting to make sense now. Just don't know who still uses Pascal, and let alone this 'Object Pascal'.

Also need to read about ADA, to see how Pascal inspired it really is, and what its continuing legacy is. Does it offer advantages in security and reliability over C/C++.

SJG

Led Zeppelin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfwZfGAK…

Continuing to read:

Object-oriented programming in Turbo Pascal 5.5 / Ben Ezzell ( 1989 )

This is really getting interesting now, talking about "virtual object methods", and distinguishing these virtual objects from static objects which are resolved in compiling and linking.

And then so there is this VMT ( virtual methods table ). So you see, this is now getting into the dynamic linking of which I spoke.

Now I don't really know how this worked, how your .exe could get stuff at run time out of some other file.

As Ezzell writes, page 168, "In the end, one of the points of object-oriented programming is extensibility, allowing the extension of existing code without recompiling the source code..."

So of course now we can see why Chairman Bill would want Borland exterminated. They were getting around DOS. They would have their own graphical interface which operated any time an application started it, they would have their own .dll system. Soon they would be getting around the 640k memory limit, and relegating dos to just a loader.

This would have been much better than the way Chairman Bill finally made it, with Windows completely taking over. The Borland approach would have been very open to amateur developers, and remaining more like Unix in how it allowed both command line and graphical interfaces. PC's would have remained tools. But Bill insisted that they be made into appliances.

I don't know how much of the code of this immediate pre-Windows 3 era is still available. FreeDOS was written by a private party. And Chairman Bill, no matter that it was over 20 years ago, he would never allow redistribution or release source.

DOS was based on isolated .exe's. And as I know, much of the .obj convention was coming from Intel's Intelec development systems and their Isis operating system. Early MS-DOS was inferior to CPM, and most of the additions were just being taken from Unix. Always Bill does stuff, so that he can gain control.

Still not sure what of Borland is left, or if there is any reason to go their way based on Pascal, instead of C.

Will be reading Ezzell's book about Borland Turbo Pascal 6 next. Not sure how much that general book will go into these Object Oriented issues. But that should be the last Pascal only book for me, for now.

Also, I still feel that this move from isolated .exe, to a system based on .dll, and these virtual objects, is why Windows was for well over a decade extremely prone to virus attacks, really defenseless. I have not read this anywhere though.

And, we need to keep the old books, if we are to understand how the ideas developed. And in this case we also need them to see the history of how Chairman Bill was able to convert PC's from very open tools, and make them instead into appliances.

SJG

King Crimson, live in Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYE7XCVA…

Yardbirds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QcTgPyI…

Drat, I am unable to get the old book about Microrim R:Base, at least for now.

Oh well, at least I know that R:Base still exists, and there should be much to read online, and also about SQL.

So I am ready now to shift to Fortran books.

Modern Fortran in practice / Arjen Markus ; with foreword by Michael Metcalf. (2012)

Not the newest grade of Fortran, but it deals with all the issues which would determine its contemporary relevance.

SJG

Yardbirds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbC2Z74q…

Just finished with:


Object-oriented programming in Turbo Pascal 5.5 / Ben Ezzell ( 1989 )

Object Pascal and their VMT ( Virtual Method's Table ), very impressive. They also have a compiler switch $R, to compile in all times of runtime bounds checking.

Not sure how many people used this, or if there is any legacy of it today.

I see why Bill had to use windows to displace DOS, make everyone use his .dll based Window's SDK ( System Development Kit ), otherwise people would have gotten around DOS entirely. So Bill had to take over.

Because of how well Borland did that, I need to also be reading their C books, see if they used the same stuff.

Still not sure why one would want to start something new with Pascal instead of C.

Now to read:
Ezzell's book about Borland Turbo Pascal 6

And that will be my last Pascal only book, for now.

Soon will have:
Modern Fortran in practice / Arjen Markus ; with foreword by Michael Metcalf. (2012)

SJG

So reading what will be my last Pascal book, for now. Fortran book coming, could be my only. Now also a COBOL book coming. I got an older one to start, 1989. There is now structured cobol and object cobol and talk of modernizing cobol, and of Cobol and Java. I have zero experience with cobol.

If people are going to make good strategic decisions about how to write new languages and programming environments, one needs access to these old books.

SJG

Getting:

Modern Fortran in practice / Arjen Markus ; with foreword by Michael Metcalf ( 2012 )

and

COBOL : a guide to structured, portable, maintainable, and efficient program design / Eric Garrigue Vesely ( 1989 )

Whether or not there would be any reason to use either of these two languages in future projects I do not know. But I am certain that there is still much to learn from them, and then also that it is important to preserve access to the old books.

SJG

Ford Class
http://www.thefordclass.com/cvn78/index.…

Huffy
http://www.divinesecretsofadomesticdiva.…

Here is a hilarious movie about a Rev. Ike sort of a character:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065579/

They show some of it here, watch how he drives into town in a Rolls followed by an armored car to hold the money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq5wk9Lx…

https://www.pleaserusa.com/ProductDetail…

https://www.pleaserusa.com/ProductDetail…

Sophisticated Lady - Duke Ellington
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brqxEdws…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJVACQHI…

This has a really interesting melody and harmony. There are fusion jazz versions of this, and they are instantly recognizable, even without the lyrics. This version makes a pleasant change to the lyrics. To my ear, they must have some sort of pickup and amplification on the wood bass, order to get more sustain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wc957do…

Using Turbo Pascal 6.0 / Ben Ezzell ( 1991 )

Just finished with above, last Pascal book for now. Borland, I think they used some sort of TSR ( Terminate and Stay Resident ), remember those? That would be how their dynamic objects stuff would work. They really were pushing the object.

DOS had by then become an extreme hindrance. Bill stomped on Borland by making Windows not just run under DOS, but replace it.

SJG

In any event, Borland was finding all the ways around, dynamic linking, and including in that a windows like graphics environment.

So if you had a program which used a mathematical library, you would have been able to update the mathematical library even if you did not have the source to the main program.

Dynamic linking would have all sorts of advantages.

MS-Windows 1 was a joke, I called it "Tiles".

Windows 2 was enough to see what people really wanted. Again, all just to scare off competition.

Windows 3 was an attempt to get the graphical environment. But Borland was already there.

So fixing it so you had to use Windows stopped that.

I don't think many people understand how negative of a player Chairman Bill has been.

Do FreeDos or Linux solve these problems? Anyway to get the Borland system?

The goal of the Free Software Movement is to let users take over, by maintaining the stuff they want to keep using. This is how it should be.

Historically no way to offer another program access to runtime variables. Dynamic Linking changes this.

But I still suspect that Dynamic Linking is why Windows 3 was so prone to virus attacks.

Have my first Cobol book soon, and I have no experience at all with Cobol.

SJG

Usually in computer languages you have two types of real numbers, 4 byte and 8 byte.

Borland had 5 types! 2 byte, 4byte, 6byte, two different types of 8byte, and then 10byte. I think this 10byte was inspired by Seymour Cray and his 80 bits machines.

All awesome!

SJG

There is one guy who would always play it differently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsJEkl5G…

More:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsJEkl5G…

COBOL : a guide to structured, portable, maintainable, and efficient program design / Eric Garrigue Vesely. (1989) Reading now!

SJG

So I have zero experience with Cobol. Sounds like it was defined at a 1959 meeting in the Pentagon. Then the ANSI standard established in 1968. By 1985 a 3rd version was finalized.

They show a punch card request. I think it is a paper hand filled out and given to those who operate the key punches. My goodness. But it looks like a punch card.

Say it came from IBM San Jose 95150. I think this is a long ago closed facility.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/San+Jo…

So COBOL originally used GOTO statements, and there was an ALTER GOTO, just like the computed GOTO in Fortran. And they call this what I have heard it called, 'spaghetti code'.

So in the 1985 version IBM had it so you could nix certain reserved words to make people code better. We have Structured COBOL, just like Structured FORTRAN.

They say COBOL is more business oriented than FORTRAN. Still don't know what they mean.

To me a business language would be more about databases and reports, and accounting conventions and taxation, and the curious complexities posed by the calendar.

But to me, you would deal with this by a large runtime library, and with good data encapsulation, so that it is very easy to use.

Some are confident that Cobol has as great future, as of 1989. And there are newer books relating it to Java and to other developments.

In the 1989 book they list over 50 vendors of Cobol related software products and they say it is still the most widely used computer language.

Today I would think that everything is client server and on microcomputers, and more distributed to the people who actually do the work, instead of in a central Data Processing Dept. So I would think they use other stuff.

Some say that Data Base Query Languages will replace Cobol. This is what I would think. It looks like what I know of from R:Base, and especially with all the reserved words capitalized.

And to me, dealing with databases and disk drives is real slow. So you could just make it interpretive, and even interactive interpretive.

This was not how computers were, especially not with the slow CPU's and the punch cards.

Just starting to read, and I will read other Cobol books, like about OBJECT COBOL.

I still believe there is a great deal to learn by looking at this.

SJG

Ginger Baker's Air Force, an example of how life should be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe9DA8pO…

Karl Marx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joql2JbD…

Next I'll try the 1997

COBOL for dummies / by Arthur Griffith

My experience with these Dummies books is that they actually are quite good.

Then say:

1998
An introduction to object COBOL / E. Reed Doke, Bill C. Hardgrave

Drat, some of the other books I thought I could get are not actually available. So that sould be it for COBOL, 3 books only. But others in Java and on SQL, and on R.

A lot of this 1989 Cobol book seems directed at getting people to go structured instead of spaghetti code. To me, 1989 is a bit late for that. But I'm going to keep reading.

SJG

Fortran Materials

"Modern Fortran In Practice, by Arjen Markus, 2012. Deals with Fortran 2008, but there is a still newer version

Markus writes for the ACM newsletter 'Fortran Forum', and the 'comp.lang.fortran' news group

Dynamic Libraries,
In Windows its 'DLL'.

In MacOSX its 'dylib'.

For Linux its 'shared object'

DISLIN, owned by the Max Planck INstitute, for Solar System Research

MySQL 'MySQL.com'

Perl 'perl.org'

Python 'python.org'

PLplot 'http://plplot.sf.net'

GNU, gcc, gfortran, gnuplot, of Free Software Foundation

SQLite 'SQLite.org'

Tcl, Tk, 'tcl.tk'

SJG

"Modern Fortran In Practice, by Arjen Markus, 2012". Deals with Fortran 2008, but there is a still newer version

This book is awesome, deals with some very sophisticated things, shows how C and Fortran would get different results from very similar code.

But these are guys who have been using Fortran continuously for decades. Updates in '77, '90, '95, '03, '08, '17.

So I won't be starting anything new in Fortran or Cobal anytime soon. But on the other hand if I do find myself involved where those old languages would be better, it is to be considered.

Fully object oriented, vast provisions for multi-processor, and always designed to execute as fast as possible.

And as the author points out, today most projects are not single language anymore. My own experience too.

SJG

TJ Steet
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5488/9620…

"Modern Fortran In Practice, by Arjen Markus, 2012". Deals with Fortran 2008, but there is a still newer version

This book is awesome, deals with some very sophisticated things, shows how C and Fortran would get different results from very similar code.

But these are guys who have been using Fortran continuously for decades. Updates in '77, '90, '95, '03, '08, '17.

So I won't be starting anything new in Fortran or Cobal anytime soon. But on the other hand if I do find myself involved where those old languages would be better, it is to be considered.

Fully object oriented, vast provisions for multi-processor, and always designed to execute as fast as possible.

And as the author points out, today most projects are not single language anymore. My own experience too.

Let me here try to record the key references and links

ACM newsletter Fortran Forum

'comp.lang.fortran' newsgroup

Michael Metcalf, author very involved with Fortran.

SQLite, written in C. For Fortran there is fsqlite, developed by Markus.

SQLite developed by D. Richard Hipp, March 2012, 'http://www.sqlite.org'

PLplot, collection of libraries for plotting technical and scientific data

Tcl/Tk

Tklib, library of Tk extensions, 'http://tcllib.sf.net'

^^^^ works with GUI.

Gabriele Jost, Chapman, Ruud van der Pas, Using OpenMP: Portable Shared Memory Parallel Programming 2008.

Lusk, Gropp, Skjellum. Using MPI: portable parallel programming with message passing, 1999.

OpenMP and MPI are the two ways of doing parallel processing in Fortran.

Unit Testing, Junit is for java

For Fortran we have Funit, pfunit, FRUIT, and Ftnunit. All for Fortran or Fortran and Ruby.

Les Hatton, 'Safer C, Developing software for High-Integrity and Safety-critical systems' 1994

https://www.amazon.com/Safer-High-Integr…

also:
Code complete : [a practical handbook of software construction] / Steve McConnell
Redmond, Wash. : Microsoft Press, [2004]

https://www.amazon.com/Code-Complete-Pra…

XML Files, a very practical kind of compromise idea in my opinion.

used extensively in docbook.

Making TEX work / Norman Walsh (1994)


DocBook 5: The Definitive Guide: The Official Documentation for DocBook, by Walsh Norman

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML

You can adapt this to your uses, very easy to parse. Discourages casual tinkering and haphazard changes, but still allows expansion in terms of tags used.

SJG

Yardbirds Mr. Your A Better Man Than I - Heart Full Of Soul live (NOT OFFICIAL RELEASE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QcTgPyI…

Ann Wilson - Beware Of Darkness @ George Fest 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pphBiAY…

TJ Street
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5488/9620…

Beyond Objectivism and Relativism: Science, Hermeneutics, and Praxis First Edition Edition
by Richard J. Bernstein 1983, very good book

Circuit Design Using Personal Computers, by Thomas Cuthbert, 1983

So I have this coming:

COBOL for dummies / by Arthur Griffith

That should do me for now for Fortran, Cobol, and Pascal books.

Then I want to get:
Programming in Modula-2 / Niklaus Wirth (1985)

My question is why did the inventor of PASCAL seem to abandon it?

As this is looking to me, its rather like and hour glass. C/C++ is at the center. So with those before it, why use them? And of those after, why use them?

So I am moving though those before, including Simula-67, Forth, SmallTalk, and ADA.


SJG

Krugman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qj…

Pikette, Krugman, Stiglitz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si4iyyJD…

Cobol for Dummies
https://www.amazon.com/COBOL-Dummies-Art…

Very good book. I will learn a great deal from it.

Should be the last of the Fortran or Cobol books for now. Not clear that I would ever want to start anything new in either of these languages. But I still want to understand them. I could someday end up connected to the maintenance of one of them.

SJG

Finished with Cobol For Dummies. Very useful book. Have much better feel for how Cobol works.

These query languages which are used for databases today, they owe a huge debt to Cobol.

Often with large computer projects, you do need to write a sort of language of your own. Knowing the history of Cobol is very important.

Don't think I will ever be starting anything new with Cobol or Fortran, but still important to know more about them.

I will get one more Cobol book because I want to see more of how Cobol became structured, and then object oriented.

SJG

https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Modul…

by Niklaus Wirth

He sounds like a very nice guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modula-2

Yes, so Modula-2 is an extension of Modula. And they both contain all of Pascal. The extension is in 'modules' which helps with multi-processing, separating initialization from execution. FWIW, I have done plenty of this, and in C. Letting computers catch up on things while other external events are happening.

And then Modula is really designed for con-current processing.

This is what I wanted to know about it, how it was different from PASCAL. So I am nearly done with it.

Need to learn about these ideas when they originally developed.

Still need one more Cobol book, and then on to the others. Looking at everything pre-C. C/C++ is the waist of the hour glass, dividing the past from the present.

SJG

Finished with the Modula-2 book. They were working out all the things of object orientation, multi-processing and multi-tasking. And also dynamic linking.

I think C/C++ just one upped them.

Done with Modula-2

SJG

Jack Parsons: Space Exploration & the O.T.O.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYCfo_YS…

I am opposed to everything about Scientology
Bare-Faced Messiah : A Biography of L. Ron Hubbard Hardcover – 1988
https://www.amazon.com/Bare-Faced-Messia…

Bare-faced messiah : the true story of L. Ron Hubbard / Russell Miller (1987)

Once I finish with all the old languages, it will be easier to get books. I'll go to C and C++.

For the new languages I'll try to go in order. So let me see if I can set up a base timeline.

Java, James Gosling, Sun Microsystems, 1995, compiled, but runs under Java Virtual Machine. So object code is portable.

JavaScript, Brendan Eich, 1995, Client side initially, but now also server side.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript

PHP, Rasmus Lerdorf, 1994, Server Side
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP

Perl, 1987, Larry Wall, seems to be scripting. "The Duct Tape Which Holds Then Internet Together"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl

AWK, text processing, scripting, 1970's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWK

Python, Guido van Rossum, 1991, good code readability, interpreted
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(pr…

SJG

Also want to read about R, SQL, client side dynamic web pages, MySQL, SQlite, XML file format, and what ever is now the name for Windows SDK, and dynamic linking in Linux, and the current Unix Shells. Also how to get the automatic spell checking stuff into a web page, and any nice content management systems for HTML text libraries.

SJG

Python and SQL/MySQL would be the most useful on this list.

Learning to code Javascript for browsers as they were in 1995 is probably not going to be very helpful, everyone is running away from Java as fast as they can, and Perl and awk are really niche.

Python has supplanted Java as a common teaching language, so it's probably the most useful.

R being for statistical analysis would require learning statistical analysis.

Thanks for that info, and why are people running away from Java?

SJG

I think the primary impetus for moving away from Java was a serious of serious security vulnerabilities culminating in a warning from the Department of Homeland Security to disable it in web browsers:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-java-…

Its future overall looks uncertain since Oracle appears to be losing interest in it:

https://www.infoworld.com/article/308200…

The trend is for web browser apps to be redone as HTML5 to move away from Java and Flash.

Well yes, there have been lots of debates about browsers allowing too much. HTML was not intended for client server applications, just the presentation of static documents.

Likely Java with its 'virtual machine' approach introduced additional vulnerabilities.

Thanks for that heads up. I'll try to find out more. Only Java, or also JavaScript?

SJG

Talk here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_%28pr…

I'll have to keep my eyes open. Old books might not deal with these problems.

SJG

JavaScript is alive and well. For more info - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECMAScript Also, as you mentioned above, it is expanding to the server side as Node.js (also mentioned in the ECMAScript article)

Re: Java

It's possible to be careless and mess up any implementation, which I think was more the problem with Java than the virtual machine part of its design. The idea that it was sandboxed did give a people false sense of security. My take on the real problem is that so many competing interests were trying to push it in one direction or the other, subvert it, supplant it, make it universal, etc., that the implementation details kind of got lost in the shuffle.

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogrammin…

Thanks for that info.

SJG

Freemasons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKRnxZR1…

Says Templars joined forces with Knights from Malta who had turned to piracy. Used Skull and Crossbones, but also relates to how they buried people.

Also believed to come from the Osirian Mummy Pose.

So, I want one more Cobol book to understand how they made it into Object Cobol. Then I will be done with Cobol.

An introduction to object COBOL / E. Reed Doke, Bill C. Hardgrave (1998)

I believe that these database languages of today owe a huge debt to Cobol.

Currently finished reading about Fortran, Pascal, and Modula-2. Unless you read the old books about these langauges, then you won't understand that ideas behind them, and these ideas are still highly relevant today.

This E. Reed Doke has written other books which would be worth looking at as well, much newer books.

SJG

Glen Gould plays Alban Berg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNk_A4Zo…

After the above, I want to see what Wirth did next, and why he did it:

Programming in Oberon : steps beyond Pascal and Modula / Martin Reiser and Niklaus Wirth. (1992)

SJG

http://www.cheap-lingerie.com/images/che…

https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/mdWUIGh…

Ticket To Ride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70-WSgZn…

https://azchords.com/b/beatles-tabs-410/…

https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/the…

Myth Of Osiris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwQ9iMJ3…

So Perl started off by expanding the Unix C Shell?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl

Bourne Shell, Korn Shell, C Shell, and others
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_scri…

Can you use Perl as your shell? Probably, but I bet it takes more memory. Even C Shell takes more memory.

SJG

In China they have a book known as the Art of War, written by Tun Szu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of…

and Three Boxes Of Life
https://www.amazon.com/Three-Boxes-Life-…

Jefferson Airplane, Rooftop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx_08cam…

Fat Angel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A7jM-7b…

Rev William Barber, and on Christian Hate, used to maintain White Supremacy
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/1/9/re…

https://www.democracynow.org/2018/1/9/re…

So they say that Perl was derived from the Unix C-Shell and also AWK and sometimes they mention SED. But are AWK and SED actually languages? If memory serves me correctly they are more like elaborate Unix utilities.

Sed & awk / Dale Dougherty and Arnold Robbins (1997)

I had once bought via Doctor Dobb's Journal with a disk of all the main Unix utilities, source code for DOS. I was going to port them all to OS-2.

This brings up a point though. The C language is extremely powerful, and I liked it from the first time I looked at it. But if you had to ask, where does it really excel, what is it really the best at? I would say that it is text string processing.

This is always tedious, as you have to anticipate any and all ways something could possibly be screwed up, and then intercept it first.

Okay, well that makes sense because Unix seems to have been designed as a completely text string driven environment.

Now DOS 3 copied some of this. But Unix is where it started.

So you have C, C-shell, older shells, Grep, Awk, Sed, all about text strings. And then Perl.

Computers should be text driven because you want computers driving computers, not people being expected to drive them.

So I have never liked the Macintosh, and I have never liked when Microsoft had Windows take the place of DOS, instead of running under it.

Computers should be text driven and save graphical interfaces for applications which need them. They are very slow, they slow down user input, and they are much harder to automate the input to.

Now this newer area of Dynamic Linking, what is the best way to do that? Graphical environs can have it. You have things like MATLAB which might have something like that under it. Hard to say.

SJG

Three Dog Night - An Old Fashioned Love Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkkgYjaz…

Never Been To Spain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm6qw_ye…

Joy To The World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMHZh5Xl…

The Fifth Dimension - Aquarius - Let The Sunshine In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPK7ZF6j…

Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) - Edison Lighthouse (1970)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1EpaboC…

LuLu (To Sir With Love)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTapoA5R…

Righteous Brothers - Unchained Melody [Live - Best Quality] (1965)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYj2hex9…

Heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJBNfCEh…

Stairway to Heaven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u-PjvRy…

Aerosmith - Sweet Emotion - Phone Sex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82cJgPXU…

This has a survey of developers of which languages they want to learn next and which they like the best:

https://research.hackerrank.com/develope…

In the "Developer Tools at Work" section, Python is by far the most preferred, and second only to Go for the language developers want to learn next (probably too many have already learned python for it to rank higher in that category)

Awk/sed aren't really designed to be programming languagues, they're more along the lines of SQL. Basically filtering languages that can do some data transformations.

Technically awk is a programming language, being Turing-complete, though:

"While AWK has a limited intended application domain and was especially designed to support one-liner programs, the language is Turing-complete, and even the early Bell Labs users of AWK often wrote well-structured large AWK programs"

On the other hand, you technically can write awk-style one-liners in Perl, but it's not generally used that way outside of a few perl one-liner recipes that can be found on the web. The in-place recursive editing it can do on multiple files is the only thing I really have found that useful for, though.

Ppwh, my interests are not of some self improvement or careerist nature.

But thanks for that link and all the info. Your view of AWK jibes with mine.

SJG

So my next computer books will be:

An introduction to object COBOL / E. Reed Doke, Bill C. Hardgrave 1998

Then on to the Nikluas Wirth books, and then books about Lisp, Prolog, Small Talk, Forth, and Ada

SJG

So I want origin dates for all of these pre-C languages:

Lisp, 1958, as I had thought, very old
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_(prog…

Prolog, 1972
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolog

Smalltalk, 1972
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalltalk

Forth 1970
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forth_(pro…

Ada, 1980, but not stable until many years later
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(progr…

Anyway, so I will finish with Cobal and the N. Wirth books, and then read about the above in the order developed.

This is all pre-C, as C is the waist of an hourglass.

SJG

Also SETL, 1969

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SETL

SJG

http://image.nola.com/home/nola-media/wi…

Want to shift focus a little bit to floating point co-processors.

Most computer langauges offer 4 byte and 8 byte reals. But Borland Turbo Pascal offered 2 byte, 4 byte, 6 byte, 8 byte, and 10 byte, and several versions of some of them.

I think it was Seymour Cray who pioneered 10 byte.

How does it work in the Intel Floating Point Co-Processors?

8087
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_8087

Had 4 byte and 8 byte and an extended 80 bit format.

eventually led to IEEE 754-1985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_754-1…

has 4 byte and 8 byte, and lots of clever things. But no 10 byte.

Extended precision
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_p…

Never the less, seems like the intel hardware does no support 80bits. Need to look further into this though.

SJG

https://www.democracynow.org/2018/2/1/jo…

This guy is only scratching the surface, but still worth reading.

https://www.amazon.com/Lost-Connections-…

Year of the Dog, Feb. 16th, 2018
https://www.asia-home.com/china/newyear/…

Getting my Object Oriented Cobol book. Should be my last book on Cobol, or on Fortran or Pascal.

looks good
Embedded software development with C / Kai Qian, David den Haring, Li Cao. (2009)

known to be good, skimmed through this many years ago. They give you an embedded operating system for any use you want, in the book, and on the disk
Embedded systems building blocks : complete and ready-to-use modules in C / Jean J. Labrosse (2000)

SJG

Bro Topia, Emily Chang

http://www.sfchronicle.com/style/article…

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news…

https://www.recode.net/2018/2/5/16972152…

Brotopia: Breaking Up the Boys' Club of Silicon Valley, Emily Chang


Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_C…

Three Books Of Occult Philosophy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Book…

http://www.esotericarchives.com/agrippa/

https://www.amazon.com/Three-Occult-Phil…


Taliesin McKnight, Tyler Texas

Secrecy & the Occult: Is it Important?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhna8kQ1…

Spirit Summoning Procedures & Advise - Ceremonial Magick 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px39VpND…

Musing On Adulting, Dominic77's thread
https://www.tuscl.net/?page=post&id=5480…

And so I need to find books I can get on LISP. Start with the oldest.

A programmer's guide to COMMON LISP / Deborah G. Tatar (1987)

COMMON LISP : the language / Guy L. Steele, Jr. ; with contributions by Scott E. Fahlman ... [et al.] and with contributions to the 2nd ed. by Daniel G. Bobrow ... [et al.] (1990)

Object-oriented common LISP / Stephen Slade (1998)

SJG

Yardbirds Mr. Your A Better Man Than I - Heart Full Of Soul live (NOT OFFICIAL RELEASE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QcTgPyI…

Spirit Summoning Procedures & Advise - Ceremonial Magick 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px39VpND…

So then how about Prolog?

Programming in Prolog / W.F. Clocksin, C.S. Mellish 1981

Prolog programming for artificial intelligence / Ivan Bratko. 1986

The power of Turbo Prolog : the natural language of artificial intelligence / Ralph Roberts. 1987

An introduction to language processing with Perl and Prolog : an outline of theories, implementation, and application with special consideration of English, French, and German / Pierre M. Nugues 2006

SJG

SETL Computer Language, coming first from Russia, and in the late 60's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SETL

books? Well that I can get:

Programming with sets : an introduction to SETL / J.T. Schwartz ... [et al.] (1986)

SJG

So SETL was influenced by Ada, not what I would have expected. But SETL was an influence for?

http://setl.org/setl/

Anyway, this all tells me what order to read the books in. And SETL will be an open source soon.

SJG

Alan Kay, developer of SmallTalk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Kay

yes, don't forget Simula-67, from Sweden

Connection Machine, by Danny Hillis, yes I have read much about this long ago and was very impressed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connection…

As I remember it had 64k of processors. But I don't think it was floating point, not intended as scientific array processor super computer. Talk about using it with LISP for AI.

So for Simula-67

Introduction to SIMULA 67 / Günther Lamprecht (1983) later books too.

None of this stuff is really dead, rather it lives on in the new languages and in the programming techniques used with them.

SJG

Going back to college I learned on Fortran--"freakin" punch cards and sequence errors

Old programming languages never die....they hang around just to keep old programmers constantly P.O.'d.

Today I attempt to stay current on the following:
JavaScript.
Java.
Python.
Elixir.
Rust.

I want to know everything about all of them. Seems to break down into pre-C and post-C. Still on pre-C.

Never heard of Elixir or Rust. Thanks for the info.

Modern Fortran is almost like Pascal, and totally screen editor based.

SJG

Elixir (2011)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elixir_(pr…

Rust (2010)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(prog…

The Rust Programming Language, by Steve Klabnick, a new book

Introducing Elixir : getting started in functional programming / Simon St. Laurent and J. David Eisenberg (2017)

The above are new languages, so they will be at the end of my investigations.

Thanks for the info.

SJG

Patrick Dunn
https://www.amazon.com/Postmodern-Magic-…

The Uplifters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zzXYPJA…

"demonstrates how crime, moral puritanism, and conflicts between ruthless capitalists and striking workers help ruin the lives of marginal Americans."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intoleranc…

But not all feminism is like this:

https://www.guerrillagirls.com/
Feminist artists, pro-sex, pro-prostitution. On the whole quite similar to the Russian girls, Pussy Riot.

"According to the authors, before agriculture, sex was relatively promiscuous, and paternity was not a concern, in a similar way to the mating system of Bonobos. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_at_Daw…

https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Dawn-Stray-Mo…

Crisis and Openings: Introduction to Marxism - Richard D Wolff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccun…

Led Zeppelin 1969 Danish TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-WSbMW7…

Led Zeppelin II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bcIjILq…

Got my Object Cobol book.

Should be my last Cobol, Fortran, or Pascal book, but I will read the rest of the Niklaus Wirth books, then continuing with the rest of the pre-C languages, then C, then Unix, then all the post C stuff.

SJG

Very good Object Cobol book, 1997
https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Obje…

Starts with careful exposition of Object Oriented concepts, explains that they are needed for for a crisis in software engineering.

Then talks about Cobol, still widely used, second only to C.

Those who in 1997 offered Object Cobol compilers:

Hitachi, IBM, MIcro Focus (whatever is left of Borland), Netron, Computer Associates ( used to make some great stuff ), TechBridge Technology

Also gets into the group that developed Object Modelling Language

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-mod…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_S…

And of course this all connects with Ada, which I will be reading about.

SJG

Truck Stop Honeys
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0B5aTzK…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M2NCpgE…

Italy is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOKm7naA…

Would they let me bring my motor home into the truck stop?

So the above Object Cobol book references lots of materials about object oriented programming. Let me try and capture a few of these, as many of them are already familiar to me.

Object oriented design with applications / Grady Booch (1991)

An introduction to object-oriented analysis : objects and UML in plain English / David William Brown (2002)

Object models : strategies, patterns, and applications / Peter Coad with David North and Mark Mayfield (1997)

Object-oriented analysis and design / James Martin and James J. Odell (1992)

Object-oriented modeling and design with UML / Michael Blaha, James Rumbaugh (2005)

SJG

So there is talk of a computer language Eiffel. I'll look at that too. I think it is one source proprietary. Also will then look at C#, though I don't expect much from Chairman Bill.

So reading Doke and Hardgrave, An Introduction To Object COBOL.

They, in 1997, see a huge future for COBOL. Seconded maybe only by C.

People write about COBOL being 'business oriented', where as FORTRAN is not.

Well, as I see it, that would mean working with relational databases, which did not exist when COBOL was developed.

But they say that COBOL-85 was made to work with SQL and DB2.

Of object oriented, they trace that to Simula and SmallTalk. But to compare they invoke SmallTalk and C++. Seems that Object Cobol, ANSI 98? is a bit more fully object oriented than any of them.

Anyway, not everyone likes C++. But I could make a C program which does anything you could do in any of these languages. And I could write compilers and interpreters for them too., I could make modules that make doing almost anything very simple.

So I will continue to read, much to learn.

When COBOL was developed, the late 50's, a big part of the push was coming from the Pentagon, who wanted platform compatibility. Okay.

But then computers were very slow. Compiling was the only way to get speed.

Today not necessary. You can use Interpreters for things which are mainly about databases or external devices. Plenty fast enough.

But compilers have another function, they discourage casual tinkering and the creation of unauthorized versions. Anyone using light encryption of source code, when it is to be interpreted?

I can see why people wanted Java. But it is not fully compiled, just to a Virtual Machine Code. But there are security problems? Too bad.

For myself, C is the language of the gods. It does everything. But what it seems to be the very best at is string manipulation. And this makes sense as it came with Unix, and that is totally command line and text driven.

As I see it this is how computers should be. Never really liked McIntosh and when Windows no longer ran under DOS, but replaced it.

GUI's are for when really needed only. Otherwise they are a speed and batching hinderance.

Anyway, these authors see Object Cobol as perfectly meeting the need for OO, GUI, and Client Server. I see this likely being in something else.

Both authors are in the CIS departments of colleges of Business Administration at State Universities, Arkansas and Missouri.

SJG

Very high salaries, but homes still hard to afford. In my opinion this must hamstring those businesses too. High salaries make it hard. Unavailability also makes it hard.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/02/14/b…

Inducting women into my group:
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

California Dreamin' - Royal Gigolos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buT2gdKx…

san_jose_guy
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p…

So reading Doke and Hardgrave, An Introduction To Object COBOL. 1997

Mostly it assumes that you know COBOL, which I do not, and then it is about the OO adaptation of it.

So they compare with SmallTalk and C++

6 OO properties

Inheritance, Encapsulation, Polymorphism, Classes as Objects, Persistent Objects, Dynamic Binding

So as they rate it:

Inheritance-> SmallTalk single C++ multiple Object Cobol multiple

Encapsulation-> ST total C++ limited OC total

Polymorphism-> Yes Yes Yes

Classes as Objects-> Yes No Yes

Persistent Objects-> Yes No Yes

Dynamic Binding-> Yes No Yes

SJG

So I've finished with Doke and Hardgrave, Object Cobol, 1998.

https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Obje…

This is the newest Cobol book I can easily get hold of. They feel that Cobol has a bright future. I am skeptical.

they talk of a Cobol website, but it is down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL

Here on SourceForge we have GNU Cobol, and Cobol has advanced to Cobol 2014

https://curlie.org/Computers/Programming…

And the book mainly is based on Micro Focus Personal Object Cobol for windows.

https://www.microfocus.com/

COBOL
https://www.microfocus.com/solutions/cob…

Micro Focus would have whatever is left of Borland.

"More than 65% of enterprise software and 70% of business transaction processing is powered by applications written in the COBOL language. For banking, insurance, manufacturing, government, and many other industries, these mission-critical applications deliver a unique competitive advantage."

Interesting. We have books talking about Cobol people going to Java:
https://www.amazon.com/COBOL-Programmers…

https://www.amazon.com/Beginning-COBOL-P…

https://www.amazon.com/Java-COBOL-Progra…

And here, Micro Focus Visual Object Cobol, carried on Amazon since 2005
https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Focus-Visua…

So people say that Java has problems, security problems.

TBC

SJG

And so people talk about Relational Databases as a 3rd generation approach. 1st was sequential, I guess meaning data stored as it is obtained. And then 2nd gen being indexed storage.

And then maybe a 4th gen being Object Oriented Databases, but then others saying that that has been abandoned. I don't know much about it, but I am sure that the ideas will be interesting to me.

Now Relational Databases can be intolerably slow, so they have to be carefully designed and used with discretion. Not every data request can go to the relational database, some will just draw up pre-prepared reports. Some requests will be handled in ways which don't use the full 'PROJECT' to flatten out related tables. Such is extremely time consuming. How indexing is used makes a big difference. And if you write your own program, you can pull all of a small table into core memory, and then relate it to a larger table as you pull it in in the biggest blocks that you can. And you also favor using the OS to make copies of the database and then dump everything you don't need to get the report you want. Trying to keep the speed up to an acceptable level.

But Cobol was started long before there was anything like a Relational Data Base, or Client-Server Computing either.

And then there is GUI ( Graphical User Interfaces, like Windows ). To me GUI is not that important, don't need to have windows with scroll bars, but in any event, Cobol is supposedly modified to do all of this. In 1985 it was made to work with SQL and DB2 ( both IBM standards as I know ).

They say that Cobol was liked because it was more 'business oriented'. Presumably they mean compared to Fortran.

Well back then what they had were corporate Data Processing Departments, so it was not interactive, and not client server. And they had nothing like Relational Databases. ( and I really like the concepts behind relational databases ) So I think it was hand trucks with boxed reports on fan fold tractor feed paper. Been involved in such myself, just turned out that way. Not really intending that from the start.

So my terminology is probably out of date. But to me, if you want a business oriented computing system, you want what is called a Management Information System, and this may include all payroll and accounting, and all customer orders and service tickets, and all scheduling and forecasting, maybe long term project and construction schedules, and all Production Inventory Control and Manufacturing Execution and Automatic Test and Distribution and Statistical Quality Control. It is a huge knows everything kind of application. It does whatever that business needs, and it is also able to maintain the proper levels of security and privacy protection, and tamper resistance.

So the two most important things are that it is built on a relational database, and that it is of an interactive, video screen centered, client server model. The old Data Processing Department model is gone.

Now Cobol has been modified many times and it would seem to do all of this. But I look at it, and I do not see it as being like the modern applications which are built on top of relational databases. And also, besides being client server, modern computer systems are networked, and with RDB's being so slow, it really helps to have access to servers to do the regular house keeping updates.

So I am still very skeptical that anyone would want to start anything new using Cobol, even these supposedly very modernized versions.

I've talked before about using MicroRim's RBASE, having their own interpretive language, and then also having something I liked very much, a C-Language interface module, by which it looked like you could do most anything. Many difficulties with all of this, but I still think it more promising than updates to COBOL.

Also I believe that today most people would want a web browser based output. Making a relational database's reports be written in HTML-CSS-PHP-JavaScript should be no problem at all. And then if you want to print it you do it via the browser, or have the machine just make an alternative print version. Could also have a special dot matrix, tractor feed, fanfold version of the report. And anyone could print it, not just the DP department. Could select reports via an interactive web page. Mostly you want the computers to do the work. So you could have updated screen reports which show you all quality and customer service compliance statistics, as well as the most central scheduling factors.

Again, I still have much more to learn. So I am continuing to read. Many things have really changed, but not everything.

Planning to learn more about Relational Databases, Object Oriented Databases, and of course mysql and this sqlite, and as well as Management Information Systems and Manufacturing Execution Systems.

SJG

Yardbirds Mr. Your A Better Man Than I - Heart Full Of Soul live (NOT OFFICIAL RELEASE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QcTgPyI…

Led Zeppelin, 1969, Danish TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-WSbMW7…

Will be reading the rest of the Niklaus Wirth books, since he was such a visionary. Then on to LISP and Prolog.

Just seeing, look like Perl can run through CGI ( Common Gateway Interface, same way Server Side Include works in web pages? )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Gat…

SJG

As I know, CGI was the first way people were able to make changing web pages, this one loop hole in what was otherwise static.

Seems like if you wanted a Relational Database to power a ;Management Information System, that web pages using this CGI would be the way to get your reports and views, and to do your house keeping operations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Gat…

SJG

The Young Karl Marx, interview with director Raoul Peck
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/2/23/t…

IRON BUTTERFLY IN- A-GADDA-DA-VIDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCkHanF4…

So in Ashlee Vance's book, speaking PayPal, Elon Musk was saying that there were only so many really good programmers around, and many of them were writting games for the X-Box, and that they were using Microsoft C++.

SJG

Java : the complete reference / Herbert Schildt. (2014)

SJG

^^^^^ OMG, the above guy has written dozens and dozens of computer programming books. He must know his stuff, must be worth reading.

SJG

So it looks like you can just download Chairman Bill's developer tools, and for free? I don't like their 'visual' product line, never have and never will.

Anyone used this stuff?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/

SJG

So here, developer tools for Windows:
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/wi…

They use to have Windows SDK ( System Developer Kit ) This is part of why I don't like their 'visual' languages, as they seem like toys, likely introduced to try and destroy Borland.

So they call it Visual Studio 2017

The latest Windows Standalone SDK (ver. 10.0.16299.91)

They say its everything you need to develop for Windows 10. I just downloaded a .exe. If you don't hear from me, then you can know that my computer must have melted.

Never says anything about any cost. Didn't used to be free. Anyone else ever done this?

SJG

To Download Office, cheaper than it used to be. But as they show prices, clearly then the Windows SDK and other tools are indeed FREE!

https://products.office.com/en-us/compar…

books, C# num 7
C# 7.0 in a Nutshell : the definitive reference / Joseph Albahari and Ben Albahari

serverless computing
Beginning serverless computing : developing with Amazon web services, Microsoft Azure, and Google Cloud / Maddie Stigler (2018)

Microsoft Access
Microsoft Access 2016 programming by example with VBA, XML, and ASP / Julitta, Korol. (2017)

Windows PowerShell cookbook : the complete guide to scripting Microsoft's command shell / by Lee Holmes. (2013)

ssential Office 2016 / Kevin Wilson.(2017)

Microsoft Office of today, purportedly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_…

Windows 10 SDK
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/wi…

Documentation about Windows 8 SDK
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library…

SJG

Be reading more about old computer languages soon. But I ask this, are there women who can really program well? I have to ask this, and especially when you get into an object oriented, multi-tasking, and real time control paradigm?

I have not read this book. I might agree with much of the sexism it talks about. I read a lengthy newpaper article about it.

But there is also much I already know I will be irritated by. Used to mean that tech sector was things considered engineering.

Today "tech" mostly means consumer media, and this is what most of the 'tech' economy is, stuff I don't go along with at all.

For me, computers are tools, and you use them to do things, and the way you do this is by writing programs for them.

So there will be real time control and communications, and there will be mathematical analysis and simulation.

Without this, I am not interested.

and programming is not a special skill, it is just a type of literacy.

So we have this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Lean-Out-Struggle…

and written by this Elissa Shevinsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elissa_She…

And she is considered a 'Tech Entrepreneur', and she starts companies like this:

JDATE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnhvNjqZ…

And she is even the star of one of their videos. I think they tried it for general audience dating, but it didn't fly. So they changed it to Jewish. Then it worked.

And they say it screens out "douchbags". And the whole thing is completely neurotic.

They say it is for meeting people, but really it is for screening people out. Women have far more attractive ability f2f, than they do online. You find one who prefers onilne, I say stay away from her.

So they go for online as they can put people through lots of screening.

If they really wanted to meet guys, just get some stripper heels and audition.

So I have not read Shevinsky, but she is all over. About the sexism I likely agree. But about this being 'tech entrepreneurship", I am sure that I do not agree. I say it is all just bullshit.

And I would never want to talk to such a woman, except maybe to tell her off.

Elissa Shevinsky

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCi-L5E…

SJG

Okay, right here, their thing is JSPOT, which I guess competes with JDATE.

And here is Elissa Shevinsky staring in one of their videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvDw74HS…

Is this 'tech entrepreneurship"

And then here more Shevinsky talking about her book
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypRrKTDz…

SJG

So is the terminology Management Information System ( MIS ) still used? I really do not know.

And is Manufacturing Execution System ( MES ) still accurate? And is that considered included in the above? I had tried to find books and I did not come up with much recent.

MES
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufactur…

MIS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management…

Essentials of management information systems / Kenneth C. Laudon, New York University, Jane P. Laudon, Azimuth Information Systems. (2017), and published by Pearson, as major text book publishing company

Table Of Contents:

Preface xvi
I Information Systems in the Digital Age 1 (148)

1 Business Information Systems in Your Career
2 (36)

Chapter-Opening Case: The San Francisco Giants Keep Winning with Information Technology
39

1-1 Why are information systems so essential for running and managing a business today?
5 (4)

How Information Systems Are Transforming Business
5 (1)

What's New in Management Information Systems?
6 (2)

Globalization Challenges and Opportunities: A Flattened World
8 (1)

Interactive Session: People, The Mobile Pocket Office
9 (10)

Business Drivers of Information Systems
11 (2)

1-2 What exactly is an information system? How does it work? What are its people, organizational, and technology components?
13 (6)

What Is an Information System?
13 (2)

It Isn't Simply Technology: The Role of People and Organizations
15 (1)

Dimensions of Information Systems
16 (3)

Interactive Session: Technology UPS Competes Globally with Information Technology
19 (11)

1-3 How will a four-step method for business problem solving help you solve information system—related problems?
21 (4)

The Problem-Solving Approach
21 (1)

A Model of the Problem-Solving Process
21 (3)

The Role of Critical Thinking in Problem Solving
24 (1)

The Connection Between Business Objectives, Problems, and Solutions
24 (1)

1-4 How will information systems affect business careers, and what information systems skills and knowledge are essential?
25 (7)

How Information Systems Will Affect Business Careers
25 (3)

Information Systems and Your Career. Wrap-Up
28 (1)

How This Book Prepares You For the Future
29 (1)

Review Summary
30 (1)

Key Terms
30 (1)

Review Questions
31 (1)

Discussion Questions
31 (1)

Hands-On MIS Projects
32 (1)

Management Decision Problems
32 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using Databases to Analyze Sales Trends
32 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using the Internet to Locate Jobs Requiring Information Systems Knowledge
33 (1)

Collaboration and Teamwork Project
33 (1)

Business Problem-Solving Case: Home Depot Renovates Itself with New Systems and Ways of Working
34 (4)

2 Global E-Business and Collaboration
38 (38)

Chapter-Opening Case: Enterprise Social Networking Helps ABB Innovate and Grow
39 (13)

2-1 What major features of a business are important for understanding the role of information systems?
41 (5)

Organizing a Business: Basic Business Functions
41 (1)

Business Processes
42 (2)

Managing a Business and Firm Hierarchies
44 (1)

The Business Environment
45 (1)

The Role of Information Systems in a Business
46 (1)

2-2 How do systems serve different management groups in a business and how do systems that link the enterprise improve organizational performance?
46 (6)

Systems for Different Management Groups
47 (4)

Systems for Linking the Enterprise
51 (1)

Interactive Session: Organizations, New Systems Help Plan International Manage Its Human Resources
52 (12)

E-Business, E-Commerce, and E-Government
55 (1)

2-3 Why are systems for collaboration and social business so important and what technologies do they use?
56 (8)

What Is Collaboration?
56 (1)

What Is Social Business?
57 (1)

Business Benefits of Collaboration and Social Business
58 (2)

Building a Collaborative Culture and Business Processes
60 (1)

Tools and Technologies for Collaboration and Social Business
60 (4)

Interactive Session: People, Is Social Business Working Out?
64 (4)

2-4 What is the role of the information systems function in a business?
66 (4)

The Information Systems Department
66 (1)

Information Systems Services
67 (1)

Review Summary
68 (1)

Key Terms
69 (1)

Review Questions
69 (1)

Discussion Questions
70 (1)

Hands-On MIS Projects
70 (1)

Management Decision Problems
70 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using a Spreadsheet to Select Suppliers 71 Achieving Operational Excellence: Using Internet Software to Plan Efficient Transportation Routes
71 (1)

Collaboration and Teamwork Project
71 (1)

Business Problem-Solving Case, How Much Does Data-Driven Planting Help Farmers?
72 (4)

3 Achieving Competitive Advantage with Information Systems
76 (34)

Chapter-Opening Case: Should T.J. Maxx Sell Online?
77 (6)

3-1 How do Porter's competitive forces model, the value chain model, synergies, core competencies, and network-based strategies help companies use information systems for competitive advantage?
79 (4)

Porter's Competitive Forces Model
79 (2)

Information System Strategies for Dealing with Competitive Forces
81 (2)

Interactive Session: Technology, Nike Becomes a Technology Company
83 (18)

The Internet's Impact on Competitive Advantage
86 (1)

The Business Value Chain Model
87 (2)

Synergies, Core Competencies, and Network-Based Strategies
89 (2)

Disruptive Technologies: Riding the Wave
91 (1)

3-2 How do information systems help businesses compete globally?
92 (3)

The Internet and Globalization
93 (1)

Global Business and System Strategies
93 (1)

Global System Configuration
94 (1)

3-3 How do information systems help businesses compete using quality and design?
95 (2)

What Is Quality?
95 (1)

How Information Systems Improve Quality
96 (1)

3-4 What is the role of business process management (BPM) in enhancing competitiveness?
97 (7)

What is Business Process Management?
98 (3)

Interactive Session: Organizations Datacard Group Redesigns the Way It Works
101 (1)

Review Summary
102 (1)

Key Terms
103 (1)

Review Questions
103 (1)

Discussion Questions
104 (1)

Hands-On MIS Projects
104 (1)

Management Decision Problems
104 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using a Database to Clarify Business Strategy
105 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using Web Tools to Configure and Price an Automobile
105 (1)

Collaboration and Teamwork Project
105 (1)

Business Problem-Solving Case, Will Technology Save Sears?
106 (4)

4 Ethical and Social Issues in Information Systems
110 (39)

Chapter-Opening Case: The Dark Side of Big Data
111 (8)

4-1 What ethical, social, and political issues are raised by information systems?
113 (5)

A Model for Thinking About Ethical, Social, and Political Issues
114 (1)

Five Moral Dimensions of the Information Age
115 (1)

Key Technology Trends That Raise Ethical Issues
116 (2)

4-2 What specific principles for conduct can be used to guide ethical decisions?
118 (1)

Basic Concepts: Responsibility, Accountability, and Liability
118 (1)

Interactive Session: Organizations Edward Snowden: Traitor or Protector of Privacy?
119 (19)

Ethical Analysis
120 (1)

Candidate Ethical Principles
121 (1)

Professional Codes of Conduct
122 (1)

Some Real-World Ethical Dilemmas
122 (1)

4-3 Why do contemporary information systems technology and the Internet pose challenges to the protection of individual privacy and intellectual property?
122 (10)

Information Rights: Privacy and Freedom in the Internet Age
122 (7)

Property Rights: Intellectual Property
129 (3)

4-4 How have information systems affected laws for establishing accountability and liability and the quality of everyday life?
132 (10)

Computer-Related Liability Problems
132 (1)

System Quality: Data Quality and System Errors
133 (1)

Quality of Life: Equity, Access, and Boundaries
134 (3)

Health Risks: RSI, CVS, and Cognitive Decline
137 (1)

Interactive Session: People, Are We Relying Too Much on Computers to Think for Us?
138 (2)

Review Summary
140 (1)

Key Terms
141 (1)

Review Questions
141 (1)

Discussion Questions
142 (1)

Hands-On MIS Projects
142 (1)

Management Decision Problems
142 (1)

Achieving Operational Excellence: Creating a Simple Blog
143 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Analyzing Web Browser Privacy
143 (1)

Collaboration and Teamwork Project
143 (1)

Business Problem-Solving Case, Facebook Privacy: What Privacy?
144 (5)
II Information Technology Infrastructure 149 (158)

5 IT Infrastructure: Hardware and Software
150 (40)

Chapter-Opening Case: EasyJet Flies High with Cloud Computing
151 (9)

5-1 What are the components of IT infrastructure?
153 (2)

Infrastructure Components
153 (2)

5-2 What are the major computer hardware, data storage, input, and output technologies used in business and the major hardware trends?
155 (10)

Types of Computers
155 (2)

Storage, Input, and Output Technology
157 (1)

Contemporary Hardware Trends
158 (2)

Interactive Session: Technology, Wearable Computers Go to Work
160 (5)

Interactive Session: Organizations Cloud Computing Takes Off
165 (15)

5-3 What are the major types of computer software used in business and the major software trends?
169 (8)

Operating System Software
169 (2)

Application Software and Desktop Productivity Tools
171 (2)

HTML and HTML5
173 (1)

Web Services
174 (1)

Software Trends
175 (2)

5-4 What are the principal issues in managing hardware and software technology?
177 (6)

Capacity Planning and Scalability
177 (1)

Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) of Technology Assets
177 (1)

Using Technology Service Providers
178 (1)

Managing Mobile Platforms
179 (1)

Managing Software Localization for Global Business
180 (1)

Review Summary
180 (2)

Key Terms
182 (1)

Review Questions
182 (1)

Discussion Questions
183 (1)

Hands-On MIS Projects
183 (2)

Management Decision Problems
183 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using a Spreadsheet to Evaluate Hardware and Software Options
184 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using Web Research to Budget for a Sales Conference
184 (1)

Collaboration and Teamwork Project
185 (1)

Business Problem-Solving Case, BYOD: Business Opportunity or Big Headache?
186 (4)

6 Foundations of Business Intelligence: Databases and Information Management
190 (36)

Chapter-Opening Case: Better Data Management Helps the US Postal Service Rebound
191 (15)

6-1 What is a database and how does a relational database organize data?
193 (6)

Entities and Attributes
194 (1)

Organizing Data in a Relational Database
194 (2)

Establishing Relationships
196 (3)

6-2 What are the principles of a database management system?
199 (5)

Operations of a Relational DBMS
200 (2)

Capabilities of Database Management Systems
202 (1)

Nonrelational Databases and Databases in the Cloud
203 (1)

6-3 What are the principal tools and technologies for accessing information from databases to improve business performance and decision making?
204 (5)

The Challenge of Big Data
204 (1)

Business Intelligence Infrastructure
205 (1)

Interactive Session: People New York City Embraces Data-Driven Crime Fighting
206 (3)

Interactive Session: Technology Driving ARI Fleet Management with Real-Time Analytics
209 (7)

Analytical Tools: Relationships, Patterns, Trends
210 (4)

Databases and the Web
214 (1)

6-4 Why are information policy, data administration, and data quality assurance essential for managing the firm's data resources?
215 (4)

Establishing an Information Policy
215 (1)

Ensuring Data Quality
215 (1)

Review Summary
216 (1)

Key Terms
217 (1)

Review Questions
218 (1)

Discussion Questions
219 (1)

Hands-On MIS Projects
219 (2)

Management Decision Problems
219 (1)

Achieving, Operational Excellence: Building a Relational Database for Inventory Management
220 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Searching Online Databases For Overseas Business Resources
220 (1)

Collaboration and Teamwork Project
221 (1)

Business Problem-Solving Case, Can We Trust Big Data?
222 (4)

7 Telecommunications, the Internet, and Wireless Technology
226 (42)

Chapter-Opening Case: Wireless Technology Makes Dundee Precious Metals Good as Gold
227 (13)

7-1 What are the principal components of telecommunications networks and key networking technologies?
229 (5)

Networking and Communication Trends
229 (1)

What is a Computer Network?
230 (1)

Key Digital Networking Technologies
231 (3)

7-2 What are the different types of networks?
234 (2)

Signals: Digital vs. Analog
234 (1)

Types of Networks
235 (1)

Transmission Media and Transmission Speed
236 (1)

7-3 How do the Internet and Internet technology work and how do they support communication and e-business?
236 (8)

What Is the Internet?
236 (1)

Internet Addressing and Architecture
237 (3)

Interactive Session: Organizations, The Battle over Net Neutrality
240 (4)

Internet Services and Communication Tools
241 (3)

Interactive Session: People, Monitoring Employees on Networks: Unethical or Good Business?
244 (15)

The Web
246 (7)

7-4 What are the principal technologies and standards for wireless networking, communication, and Internet access?
253 (8)

Cellular Systems
253 (1)

Wireless Computer Networks and Internet Access
254 (2)

RFID and Wireless Sensor Networks
256 (3)

Review Summary
259 (1)

Key Terms
260 (1)

Review Questions
261 (1)

Discussion Questions
261 (1)

Hands-On MIS Projects
261 (2)

Management Decision Problems
262 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using Spreadsheet Software to Evaluate Wireless Services
262 (1)

Achieving Operational Excellence: Using Web Search Engines for Business Research
262 (1)

Collaboration and Teamwork Project
263 (1)

Business Problem-Solving Case, Google, Apple, and Facebook Struggle for Your Internet Experience
264 (4)

8 Securing Information Systems
268 (39)

Chapter-Opening Case: Target Becomes the Target for Massive Data Theft
269 (16)

8-1 Why are information systems vulnerable to destruction, error, and abuse?
271 (10)

Why Systems Are Vulnerable
271 (3)

Malicious Software: Viruses, Worms, Trojan Horses, and Spyware
274 (2)

Hackers and Computer Crime
276 (4)

Internal Threats: Employees
280 (1)

Software Vulnerability
280 (1)

8-2 What is the business value of security and control?
281 (2)

Legal and Regulatory Requirements for Electronic Records Management
282 (1)

Electronic Evidence and Computer Forensics
283 (1)

8-3 What are the components of an organizational framework for security and control?
283 (2)

Information Systems Controls
283 (1)

Risk Assessment
284 (1)

Interactive Session: People, The Flash Crash: A New Culprit
285 (12)

Security Policy
287 (1)

Disaster Recovery Planning and Business Continuity Planning
288 (1)

The Role of Auditing
289 (1)

8-4 What are the most important tools and technologies for safeguarding information resources?
289 (12)

Identity Management and Authentication
290 (1)

Firewalls, Intrusion Detection Systems, and Antivirus Software
291 (2)

Securing Wireless Networks
293 (1)

Encryption and Public Key Infrastructure
293 (2)

Ensuring System Availability
295 (1)

Security Issues for Cloud Computing and the Mobile Digital Platform
295 (1)

Ensuring Software Quality
296 (1)

Interactive Session: Technology, BYOD: A Security Nightmare?
297 (2)

Review Summary
299 (1)

Key Terms
300 (1)

Review Questions
300 (1)

Discussion Questions
301 (1)

Hands-On MIS Projects 301 4IS


Management Decision Problems
301 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using Spreadsheet Software to Perform a Security Risk Assessment
302 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Evaluating Security Outsourcing Services
302 (1)

Collaboration and Teamwork Project
302 (1)

Business Problem-Solving Case, Sony Hacked Again: Bigger Than Ever
303 (4)
III Key System Applications for the Digital Age 307 (114)

9 Achieving Operational Excellence and Customer Intimacy: Enterprise Applications
308 (32)

Chapter-Opening Case: ACH Food Companies Transforms Its Business with Enterprise Systems
309 (10)

9-1 How do enterprise systems help businesses achieve operational excellence?
311 (3)

What are Enterprise Systems?
311 (1)

Enterprise Software
312 (1)

Business Value of Enterprise Systems
313 (1)

9-2 How do supply chain management systems coordinate planning, production, and logistics with suppliers?
314 (5)

The Supply Chain
314 (2)

Information Systems and Supply Chain Management
316 (1)

Supply Chain Management Software
317 (2)

Interactive Session: Organizations Scotts Miracle-Gro Cultivates Supply Chain Proficiency
319 (11)

Global Supply Chains and the Internet
320 (1)

Business Value of Supply Chain Management Systems
321 (1)

9-3 How do customer relationship management systems help firms achieve customer intimacy?
322 (5)

What Is Customer Relationship Management?
322 (1)

Customer Relationship Management Software
323 (2)

Operational and Analytical CRM
325 (2)

Business Value of Customer Relationship Management Systems
327 (1)

9-4 What are the challenges that enterprise applications pose and how are enterprise applications taking advantage of new technologies?
327 (7)

Enterprise Application Challenges
327 (1)

Next-Generation Enterprise Applications
328 (2)

Interactive Session: Technology, Unilever Unifies Globally with Enhanced ERP
330 (1)

Review Summary
331 (1)

Key Terms
332 (1)

Review Questions
333 (1)

Discussion Questions
333 (1)

Hands-On MIS Projects
334 (1)

Management Decision Problems
334 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using Database Software to Manage Customer Service Requests
334 (1)

Achieving Operational Excellence: Evaluating Supply Chain Management Services
335 (1)

Collaboration and Teamwork Project
335 (1)

Business Problem-Solving Case, Customer Relationship Management Helps Celcom Become Number One
336 (4)

10 E-Commerce: Digital Markets, Digital Goods
340 (42)

Chapter-Opening Case: Uber Digitally Disrupts the Taxi Industry
341 (22)

10-1 What are the unique features of e-commerce, digital markets, and digital goods?
343 (10)

E-Commerce Today
344 (1)

The New E-Commerce: Social, Mobile, Local
345 (2)

Why E-commerce is Different
347 (2)

Key Concepts in E-commerce: Digital Markets and Digital Goods in a Global Marketplace
349 (4)

10-2 What are the principal e-commerce business and revenue models?
353 (5)

Types of E-Commerce
353 (1)

E-Commerce Business Models
353 (3)

E-Commerce Revenue Models
356 (2)

10-3 How has e-commerce transformed marketing?
358 (5)

Behavioral Targeting
358 (3)

Social E-commerce and Social Network Marketing
361 (2)

Interactive Session: People, Getting Social with Customers
363 (7)

10-4 How has e-commerce affected Business-to-Business transactions?
365 (3)

Electronic Data Interchange ( EDI)
366 (1)

New Ways of B2 B Buying and Selling
366 (2)

10-5 What is the role of m-commerce in business, and what are the most important m-commerce applications?
368 (2)

Location-Based Services and Applications
369 (1)

Interactive Session: Organizations Can Instacart Deliver?
370 (4)

Other Mobile Commerce Services
371 (1)

10-6 What issues must be addressed when building an e-commerce presence?
372 (4)

Develop an E-commerce Presence Map
372 (1)

Develop a Timeline: Milestones
373 (1)

Review Summary
374 (1)

Key Terms
375 (1)

Review Questions
375 (1)

Discussion Questions
376 (1)

Hands-On MIS Projects
376 (1)

Management Decision Problems
376 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using Spreadsheet Software to Analyze a Dot-Com Business
376 (1)

Achieving Operational Excellence: Evaluating E-Commerce Hosting Services
377 (1)

Collaboration and Teamwork Project
377 (1)

Business Problem-Solving Case, Walmart and Amazon Duke It Out for E-Commerce Supremacy
378 (4)

11 Improving Decision Making and Managing Knowledge
382 (39)

Chapter-Opening Case: Germany Wins the World Cup with Big Data at Its Side
383 (11)

11-1 What are the different types of decisions, and how does the decision-making process work?
385 (3)

Business Value of Improved Decision Making
385 (1)

Types of Decisions
386 (1)

The Decision-Making Process
387 (1)

High-Velocity Automated Decision Making
387 (1)

Quality of Decisions and Decision Making
388 (1)

11-2 How do business intelligence and business analytics support decision making?
388 (6)

What is Business Intelligence?
389 (1)

The Business Intelligence Environment
389 (1)

Business Intelligence and Analytics Capabilities
390 (4)

Interactive Session: Technology, America's Cup: The Tension Between Technology and Human Decision Makers
394 (11)

Business Intelligence Users
396 (3)

Group Decision-Support Systems
399 (1)

11-3 What are the business benefits of using intelligent techniques in decision making and knowledge management?
400 (5)

Expert Systems
400 (1)

Case-Based Reasoning
401 (1)

Fuzzy Logic Systems
402 (1)

Neural Networks
403 (1)

Genetic Algorithms
404 (1)

Interactive Session: People Facial Recognition Systems: Another Threat to Privacy?
405 (7)

Intelligent Agents
407 (1)

11-4 What types of systems are used for enterprise-wide knowledge management and knowledge work, and how do they provide value for businesses?
408 (7)

Enterprise-Wide Knowledge Management Systems
408 (2)

Knowledge Work Systems
410 (2)

Review Summary
412 (2)

Key Terms
414 (1)

Review Questions
414 (1)

Discussion Questions
415 (1)

Hands-On MIS Projects
415 (1)

Management Decision Problems
415 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using Pivot Tables to Analyze Sales Data
416 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using Intelligent Agents for Comparison Shopping
416 (1)

Collaboration and Teamwork Project
416 (1)

Business Problem-Solving Case, What's Up with IBM's Watson?
416 (5)
IV Building and Managing Systems 421 (41)

12 Building Information Systems and Managing Projects
422 (40)

Chapter-Opening Case: Girl Scout Cookie Sales Go Digital
423 (14)

12-1 What are the core problem-solving steps for developing new information systems?
425 (6)

Defining and Understanding the Problem
425 (2)

Developing Alternative Solutions
427 (1)

Evaluating and Choosing Solutions
427 (1)

Implementing the Solution
428 (3)

12-2 What are the alternative methods for building information systems?
431 (6)

Traditional Systems Development Life Cycle
431 (1)

Prototyping
432 (1)

End-User Development
433 (1)

Purchasing Solutions: Application Software Packages and Outsourcing
433 (2)

Mobile Application Development: Designing for a Multi-Screen World
435 (1)

Rapid Application Development for E-Business
436 (1)

Interactive Session: Technology, The Challenge of Mobile Application Development
437 (6)

12-3 What are the principal methodologies for modeling and designing systems?
438 (4)

Structured Methodologies
438 (2)

Object-Oriented Development
440 (2)

Computer-Aided Software Engineering (CASE)
442 (1)

12-4 How should information systems projects be selected and managed?
442 (13)

Project Management Objectives
442 (1)

Interactive Session: Organizations Britain's National Health Service Jettisons Choose and Book System
443 (9)

Selecting Projects: Making the Business Case for a New System
445 (3)

Managing Project Risk and System-Related Change
448 (4)

Review Summary
452 (2)

Key Terms
454 (1)

Review Questions
454 (1)

Discussion Questions
455 (1)

Hands-On MIS Projects
455 (1)

Management Decision Problems
455 (1)

Improving Decision Making: Using Database Software to Design a Customer System for Auto Sales
456 (1)

Achieving Operational Excellence: Analyzing Web Site Design and Information Requirements
456 (1)

Collaboration and Teamwork Project
456 (1)

Business Problem-Solving Case A Shaky Start for Healthcare.gov
457 (5)
Glossary 462 (17)
Index


Designing management information systems / Hans van der Heijden 2009

Operations management / William J. Stevenson, Saunders College of Business, Rochester Institute of Technology. (2018) 13th edition

Preface vii

1 Introduction to Operations Management
2 (38)

Introduction
4 (4)

Production of Goods Versus Providing Services
8 (2)

Why Learn About Operations Management?
10 (2)

Career Opportunities and Professional Societies
12 (1)

Process Management
13 (1)

The Scope of Operations Management
14 (4)

Reading: Why Manufacturing Matters
17 (1)

Operations Management and Decision Making
18 (3)

Reading: Analytics
20 (1)

The Historical Evolution of Operations Management
21 (3)

Operations Today
24 (3)

Reading: Agility Creates a Competitive Edge
26 (1)

Key issues for Today's Business Operations
27 (9)

Readings: Universities Embrace Sustainability
28 (1)

Diet and the Environment: Vegetarian vs. Nonvegetarian
29 (4)

Operations Tour: Wegmans Food Markets
33 (3)

Summary
36 (1)

Key Points
36 (1)

Key Terms
36 (1)

Discussion and Review Questions
36 (1)

Taking Stock
37 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
37 (1)

Case: Hazel
38 (1)

Selected Bibliography & Further Readings
38 (1)

Problem-Solving Guide
39 (1)

2 Competitiveness, Strategy, and Productivity
40 (34)

Introduction
41 (1)

Competitiveness
42 (2)

Mission and Strategies
44 (7)

Reading: Amazon Tops in Customer Service
45 (6)

Operations Strategy
51 (3)

Implications of Organization Strategy for Operations Management
54 (1)

Transforming Strategy into Action: The Balanced Scorecard
54 (2)

Productivity
56 (4)

Readings: Why Productivity Matters
59 (1)

Dutch Tomato Growers' Productivity Advantage
60 (2)

Productivity Improvement
62 (1)

Summary
62 (1)

Key Points
63 (1)

Key Terms
63 (1)

Solved Problems
63 (1)

Discussion and Review Questions
64 (1)

Taking Stock
64 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
65 (1)

Problems
65 (8)

Case


An American Tragedy: How a Good Company Died
67 (1)

Home-Style Cookies
68 (1)

Hazel Revisited
69 (1)

"Your Garden Gloves"
70 (1)

Operations Tour: The U.S. Postal Service
70 (3)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
73 (1)

3 Forecasting
74 (62)

Introduction
76 (1)

Features Common to All Forecasts
77 (1)

Elements of a Good Forecast
78 (1)

Forecasting and the Supply Chain
78 (1)

Steps in the Forecasting Process
79 (1)

Forecast Accuracy
79 (3)

Reading: High Forecasts Can Be Bad News
80 (2)

Approaches to Forecasting
82 (1)

Qualitative Forecasts
82 (2)

Forecasts Based on Time-Series Data
84 (17)

Associative Forecasting Techniques
101 (5)

Monitoring Forecast Error
106 (4)

Choosing a Forecasting Technique
110 (1)

Using Forecast Information
111 (1)

Computer Software in Forecasting
112 (1)

Operations Strategy
112 (2)

Reading: Gazing at the Crystal Ball
113 (1)

Summary
114 (2)

Key Points
116 (1)

Key Terms
117 (1)

Solved Problems
117 (6)

Discussion and Review Questions
123 (1)

Taking Stock
124 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
124 (1)

Problems
124 (11)

Case


M&L Manufacturing
134 (1)

Highline Financial Services, Ltd
135 (1)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
135 (1)

4 Product and Service Design
136 (52)

Reading: Design as a Business Strategy
138 (1)

Introduction
138 (2)

Readings: Product Redesign, Not Offshoring, Holds Cost Advantage for U.S. Manufacturers
139 (1)

Dutch Boy Brushes up Its Paints
140 (1)

Idea Generation
140 (3)

Reading: Vlasic on a Roll with Huge Pickle Slices
142 (1)

Legal and Ethical Considerations
143 (1)

Human Factors
144 (1)

Reading: Do You Want Pickled Beets with That?
145 (1)

Cultural Factors
145 (1)

Global Product and Service Design
145 (1)

Environmental Factors: Sustainability
146 (5)

Readings: Best Buy Wants Your Junk
147 (1)

Kraft Foods' Recipe for Sustainability
148 (1)

Xerox Diverts 2 Billion Pounds of Waste From Landfills Through Green Initiatives
149 (1)

Recycle City: Maria's Market
149 (2)

Other Design Considerations
151 (10)

Readings: Lego A/S in the Pink
152 (3)

Fast-Food Chains Adopt Mass Customization
155 (6)

Phases in Product Design and Development
161 (1)

Designing for Production
162 (3)

Service Design
165 (4)

Operations Strategy
169 (1)

Reading: The Challenges of Managing Services
169 (1)

Summary
170 (1)

Key Points
170 (1)

Key Terms
170 (1)

Discussion and Review Questions
170 (1)

Taking Stock
171 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
171 (1)

Problems
172 (1)

Operations Tour: High Acres Landfill
173 (1)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
173 (15)

Supplement to Chapter 4 Reliability
174 (14)

5 Strategic Capacity Planning for Products and Services
188 (54)

Introduction
189 (2)

Reading: Excess Capacity Can Be Bad News!
190 (1)

Capacity Decisions are Strategic
191 (1)

Defining and Measuring Capacity
192 (1)

Determinants of Effective Capacity
193 (2)

Strategy Formulation
195 (1)

Forecasting Capacity Requirements
196 (2)

Additional Challenges of Planning Service Capacity
198 (1)

Do it in-House or Outsource it?
199 (1)

Reading: My Compliments to the Chef, er, Buyer
200 (1)

Developing Capacity Strategies
200 (5)

Constraint Management
205 (1)

Evaluating Alternatives
205 (6)

Operations Strategy
211 (1)

Summary
211 (1)

Key Points
212 (1)

Key Terms
212 (1)

Solved Problems
212 (3)

Discussion and Review Questions
215 (1)

Taking Stock
215 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
215 (1)

Problems
216 (3)

Case


Outsourcing of Hospital Services
219 (1)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
219 (23)

Supplement to Chapter 5 Decision Theory
220 (22)

6 Process Selection and Facility Layout
242 (54)

Introduction
243 (1)

Process Selection
244 (6)

Operations Tour: Morton Salt
248 (2)

Technology
250 (7)

Readings: Foxconn Shifts its Focus to Automation
252 (5)

Self-Driving Vehicles are on the Horizon
257 (1)

Process Strategy
257 (1)

Strategic Resource Organization: Facilities Layout
257 (12)

Reading: A Safe Hospital Room of the Future
267 (2)

Designing Product Layouts: Line Balancing
269 (9)

Reading: BMW's Strategy: Flexibility
278 (1)

Designing Process Layouts
278 (5)

Summary
283 (1)

Key Points
283 (1)

Key Terms
283 (1)

Solved Problems
283 (4)

Discussion and Review Questions
287 (1)

Taking Stock
288 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
288 (1)

Problems
288 (7)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
295 (1)

7 Work Design and Measurement
296 (46)

Introduction
297 (1)

Job Design
297 (4)

Quality of Work Life
301 (5)

Methods Analysis
306 (4)

Motion Study
310 (1)

Work Measurement
311 (11)

Operations Strategy
322 (1)

Summary
323 (1)

Key Points
323 (1)

Key Terms
324 (1)

Solved Problems
324 (1)

Discussion and Review Questions
325 (1)

Taking Stock
326 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
326 (1)

Problems
326 (3)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
329 (13)

Supplement to Chapter 7 Learning Curves
330 (12)

8 Location Planning and Analysis
342 (30)

The Need for Location Decisions
343 (1)

The Nature of Location Decisions
344 (2)

Global Locations
346 (2)

General Procedure for Making Location Decisions
348 (1)

Identifying a Country, Region, Community, and Site
349 (7)

Service and Retail Locations
356 (2)

Reading: Site Selection Grows Up: Improved Tech Tools Make the Process Faster, Better
357 (1)

Evaluating Location Alternatives
358 (6)

Summary
364 (1)

Key Points
364 (1)

Key Terms
364 (1)

Solved Problems
364 (2)

Discussion and Review Questions
366 (1)

Taking Stock
366 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
366 (1)

Problems
367 (3)

Case


Hello, Walmart?
370 (1)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
370 (2)

9 Management of Quality
372 (44)

Introduction
373 (1)

Reading: Whatever Happened to Quality?
374 (1)

The Evolution of Quality Management
374 (1)

The Foundations of Modern Quality Management: The Gurus
375 (3)

Insights on Quality Management
378 (6)

Readings: The Sounds of Quality
380 (4)

Hyundai: Kissing Clunkers Goodbye
384 (2)

Re work and Morale
386 (1)

Quality Awards
386 (1)

Quality Certification
387 (2)

Quality and the Supply Chain
389 (1)

Reading: Improving Quality and Reducing Risk in Offshoring
390 (1)

Total Quality Management
390 (4)

Problem Solving and Process Improvement
394 (4)

Reading: What Keeps Six Sigma Practitioners up at Night?
397 (1)

Quality Tools
398 (8)

Reading: Benchmarking Corporate Websites of Fortune 500 Companies
406 (1)

Operations Strategy
406 (1)

Summary
406 (1)

Key Points
407 (1)

Key Terms
407 (1)

Solved Problem
407 (1)

Discussion and Review Questions
408 (1)

Taking Stock
409 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
409 (1)

Problems
409 (3)

Case


Chick-N-Gravy Dinner Line
411 (1)

Tip Top Markets
412 (2)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
414 (2)

10 Quality Control
416 (46)

Introduction
417 (1)

Inspection
418 (5)

Reading: Making Potato Chips
422 (1)

Statistical Process Control
423 (18)

Process Capability
441 (5)

Operations Strategy
446 (1)

Reading: Bar Codes Might Cut Drug Errors in Hospitals
447 (1)

Summary
447 (1)

Key Points
447 (2)

Key Terms
449 (1)

Solved Problems
449 (4)

Discussion and Review Questions
453 (1)

Taking Stock
454 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
454 (1)

Problems
454 (6)

Case


Toys, Inc.
460 (1)

Tiger Tools
460 (1)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
461 (1)

11 Aggregate Planning and Master Scheduling
462 (38)

Introduction
464 (7)

Reading: Duplicate Orders Can Lead to Excess Capacity
468 (3)

Basic Strategies for Meeting Uneven Demand
471 (3)

Techniques for Aggregate Planning
474 (7)

Aggregate Planning in Services
481 (2)

Disaggregating the Aggregate Plan
483 (1)

Master Scheduling
483 (1)

The Master Scheduling Process
484 (5)

Summary
489 (1)

Key Points
489 (1)

Key Terms
490 (1)

Solved Problems
490 (3)

Discussion and Review Questions
493 (1)

Taking Stock
493 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
493 (1)

Problems
493 (5)

Case


Eight Glasses a Day (EGAD)
498 (1)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
498 (2)

12 MRP and ERP
500 (50)

Introduction
501 (1)

An Overview of MRP
501 (1)

MRP Inputs
502 (4)

MRP Processing
506 (7)

MRP Outputs
513 (1)

Other Considerations
514 (2)

MRP in Services
516 (1)

Benefits and Requirements of MRP
516 (1)

MRP II
517 (2)

Capacity Requirements Planning
519 (2)

ERP
521 (6)

Readings: The ABCs of ERP
523 (4)

The Top 10 ERP Mistakes
527 (2)

Operations Strategy
529 (1)

Summary
529 (1)

Key Points
529 (1)

Key Terms
530 (1)

Solved Problems
530 (9)

Discussion and Review Questions
539 (1)

Taking Stock
539 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
540 (1)

Problems
540 (6)

Case


Promotional Novelties
545 (1)

Dmd Enterprises
546 (3)

Operations Tour: Stickley Furniture
546 (3)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
549 (1)

13 Inventory Management
550 (58)

Introduction
551 (1)

Reading: $$$
552 (1)

The Nature and Importance of Inventories
552 (3)

Requirements for Effective Inventory Management
555 (6)

Reading: Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) Tags
557 (4)

Inventory Ordering Policies
561 (1)

How Much to Order: Economic Order Quantity Models
561 (12)

Reorder Point Ordering
573 (4)

How Much to Order: Fixed-Order-interval Model
577 (3)

The Single-Period Model
580 (5)

Operations Strategy
585 (1)

Summary
585 (1)

Key Points
586 (1)

Key Terms
587 (1)

Solved Problem
587 (5)

Discussion and Review Questions
592 (1)

Taking Stock
592 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
592 (1)

Problems
593 (8)

Case


UPD Manufacturing
600 (1)

Harvey Industries
601 (1)

Grill Rite
602 (1)

Farmers Restaurant
603 (2)

Operations Tour: Bruegger's Bagel Bakery
604 (1)

PSC, Inc.
605 (2)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
607 (1)

14 JIT and Lean Operations
608 (44)

Introduction
610 (3)

Reading: Toyota Recalls
612 (1)

Supporting Goals
613 (1)

Building Blocks
614 (17)

Readings: General Mills Turns to Nascar to Reduce Changeover Time
617 (4)

"People" Firms Boost Profits, Study Shows
621 (10)

Lean Tools
631 (2)

Reading: Nearby Suppliers Match Ford's Mix
633 (1)

Transitioning to a Lean System
633 (1)

Lean Services
634 (3)

Reading: To Build a Better Hospital, Virginia Mason Takes Lessons from Toyota Plants
636 (1)

JIT II
637 (1)

Operations Strategy
637 (1)

Summary
638 (1)

Key Points
639 (1)

Key Terms
639 (1)

Solved Problems
639 (1)

Discussion and Review Questions
640 (1)

Taking Stock
640 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
640 (1)

Problems
640 (3)

Case


Level Operations
641 (1)

Operations Tour: Boeing
642 (1)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
643 (1)

Supplement to Chapter 14


Maintenance
644 (8)

15 Supply Chain Management
652 (38)

Introduction
654 (1)

Trends in Supply Chain Management
655 (4)

Reading: At 3M, a Long Road Became a Shorter Road
658 (1)

Global Supply Chains
659 (1)

ERP and Supply Chain Management
659 (1)

Ethics and the Supply Chain
660 (1)

Small Businesses
660 (1)

Management Responsibilities
661 (1)

Procurement
662 (4)

Reading: IBMs Supply Chain Social Responsibility
665 (1)

E-Business
666 (3)

Reading: E-Procurement at IBM
668 (1)

Supplier Management
669 (3)

Reading: NestleUSA and Ocean Spray Form Strategic Operations Alliance
671 (1)

Inventory Management
672 (1)

Order Fulfillment
673 (1)

Logistics
674 (4)

Operations Tour: Wegmans' Shipping System
675 (2)

Readings: Springdale Farm
677 (1)

RFID Tags: Keeping the Shelves Stocked
678 (1)

Active RFID vs. Passive RFID
678 (2)

Creating An Effective Supply Chain
680 (4)

Reading: Clicks or Bricks, or Both?
681 (3)

Strategy
684 (1)

Summary
685 (1)

Key Points
685 (1)

Key Terms
685 (1)

Discussion and Review Questions
685 (1)

Taking Stock
686 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
686 (1)

Problems
686 (2)

Case


Master Tag
687 (1)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
688 (2)

16 Scheduling
690 (40)

Scheduling Operations
692 (3)

Scheduling in Low-Volume Systems
695 (18)

Scheduling Services
713 (4)

Operations Strategy
717 (1)

Summary
717 (1)

Key Points
717 (1)

Key Terms
718 (1)

Solved Problems
718 (4)

Discussion and Review Questions
722 (1)

Taking Stock
722 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
722 (1)

Problems
723 (6)

Case


Hi--Ho, Yo--Yo, Inc.
729 (1)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
729 (1)

17 Project Management
730 (52)

Introduction
732 (1)

Project Life Cycle
732 (1)

Behavioral Aspects of Project Management
733 (6)

Reading: Project Managers Have Never Been More Critical
738 (1)

Work Breakdown Structure
739 (1)

Planning and Scheduling with Gantt Charts
739 (1)

PERT and CPM
740 (3)

Deterministic Time Estimates
743 (1)

A Computing Algorithm
744 (7)

Probabilistic Time Estimates
751 (3)

Determining Path Probabilities
754 (2)

Simulation
756 (1)

Budget Control
757 (1)

Time-Cost Trade-offs: Crashing
757 (3)

Advantages of Using PERT and Potential Sources of Error
760 (1)

Critical Chain Project Management
761 (1)

Other Topics in Project Management
761 (1)

Project Management Software
762 (1)

Operations Strategy
763 (1)

Risk Management
763 (1)

Summary
764 (1)

Key Points
765 (1)

Key Terms
765 (1)

Solved Problems
765 (7)

Discussion and Review Questions
772 (1)

Taking Stock
772 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
772 (1)

Problems
772 (9)

Case


The Case of the Mexican Crazy Quilt
779 (2)

Time, Please
781 (1)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
781 (1)

18 Management of Waiting Lines
782 (40)

Why is There Waiting?
784 (1)

Managerial Implications of Waiting Lines
785 (1)

Reading: New Yorkers Do Not Like Waiting in Line
785 (1)

Goal of Waiting-Line Management
785 (1)

Characteristics of Waiting Lines
786 (4)

Measures of Waiting-Line Performance
790 (1)

Queuing Models: Infinite-Source
790 (15)

Queuing Model: Finite-Source
805 (6)

Constraint Management
811 (1)

The Psychology of Waiting
811 (1)

Reading: David H. Maister on the Psychology of Waiting
812 (1)

Operations Strategy
812 (1)

Reading: Managing Waiting Lines at Disney World
813 (1)

Summary
813 (1)

Key Points
814 (1)

Key Terms
814 (1)

Solved Problems
814 (2)

Discussion and Review Questions
816 (1)

Taking Stock
816 (1)

Critical Thinking Exercises
816 (1)

Problems
816 (4)

Case


Big Bank
820 (1)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
820 (2)

19 Linear Programming
822 (32)

Introduction
823 (1)

Linear Programming Models
824 (2)

Graphical Linear Programming
826 (12)

The Simplex Method
838 (1)

Computer Solutions
838 (3)

Sensitivity Analysis
841 (3)

Summary
844 (1)

Key Points
844 (1)

Key Terms
844 (1)

Solved Problems
844 (3)

Discussion and Review Questions
847 (1)

Problems
847 (6)

Case


Son, Ltd.
851 (1)

Custom Cabinets, Inc.©
852 (1)

Selected Bibliography and Further Readings
853 (1)
Appendix A Answers to Selected Problems 854 (12)
Appendix B Tables 866 (6)
Appendix C Working with the Normal Distribution 872 (5)
Company Index 877 (2)
Subject Index

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufactur…

MRP and MRP 2
Manufacturing Resource planning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufactur…


Operations management. Processes and supply chains / Lee J. Krajewski, Larry P. Ritzman, Manoj K. Malhotra. ( Pearson 2013 ) 10th edition

I am seeing a paucity of such books though, like maybe my terminology is still out of date?

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Sexiest Ladies of Jazz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsJs_hEC…

Manufacturing Execution System software:

https://www.softwareadvice.com/manufactu…

https://www.epicor.com/offers/mes.aspx?u…

https://www.ptc.com/en/thingworx/manufac…

https://www.capterra.com/manufacturing-e…

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Gustav Holst, Planets, Organ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwZkAgGu…

Manufacturing Execution System Software
https://mail.google.com/mail/#sent?compo…

www.epicor.com

https://www.epicor.com/manufacturing/man…

www.ptc.com
wide range of product types

https://www.ptc.com/en/industries/manufa…

I used to use the MathCad long ago, before it was PTC. Most like a blackboard than a programing or calculation environment
https://www.ptc.com/en/products/mathcad

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What a twat.

This PTC is interesting.

https://www.ptc.com/en/ptc-offices

https://www.ptc.com/en/products/all

Still not getting detailed info about MIS or MES systems

https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-p…

https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

Project Management:
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Category/…

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Chicago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBGyFrHF…

http://cowbellsongs.com/the-list-cowbell…

Aerosmith Walk This Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UFFa1Hb…

Booker T and the MG's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVAFjvRB…

Hank and Cupcakes, paint only
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8bIZ5P8…

The Vietnam War PBS Episode 3: The River Styx (January 1964-December 1965)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-cxYWy1…

The Battle For Puerto Rico
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/3/21/t…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufactur…

Scholten, Bianca (2009). MES guide for executives: why and how to select, implement, and maintain a manufacturing execution system

https://www.amazon.com/MES-Guide-Executi…

https://www.overdrive.com/media/1186888/…

http://bestlibrary.co/download/mes-guide…
I can get this:
Supply chain and logistics management made easy : methods and applications for planning, operations, integration, control and improvement, and network design / Paul A. Myerson. ( 2015 Pearson )

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial…

Proview, open source process control
http://www.proview.se/v3/

Embedded PLC guide
http://plccompare.com/embedded-plc-guide…

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http://velocio.net/

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Manufacturing Resource Planning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufactur…


Almost every MRP II system is modular in construction. Characteristic basic modules in an MRP II system are:

Master production schedule (MPS)
Item master data (technical data)
Bill of materials (BOM) (technical data)
Production resources data (manufacturing technical data)
Inventories and orders (inventory control)
Purchasing management
Material requirements planning (MRP)
Shop floor control (SFC)
Capacity planning or capacity requirements planning (CRP)
Standard costing (cost control) and frequently also Actual or FIFO costing, and Weighted Average costing.
Cost reporting / management (cost control)

together with auxiliary systems such as:

Business planning
Lot traceability
Contract management
Tool management
Engineering change control
Configuration management
Shop floor data collection
Sales analysis and forecasting
Finite capacity scheduling (FCS)

and related systems such as:

General ledger
Accounts payable (purchase ledger)
Accounts receivable (sales ledger)
Sales order management
Distribution resource planning (DRP)
Automated warehouse management
Project management
Technical records
Estimating
Computer-aided design/computer-aided manufacturing (CAD/CAM)
CAPP


https://www.webandmacros.net/excel-mrp-m…

https://www.sheetmetalworld.com/sheet-me…

https://www.demanddriveninstitute.com/

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Shoptech Software

https://content.shoptech.com/manufacturi…

lots of info on page, but to download brochure need to register with them.

This industry has really expanded into a cloud computing and service based model. I have reservations about some of that.

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Harvard Business Review entrepreneur's handbook : everything you need to launch and grow your new business. ( 2018 )

Directing the Erp Implementation A Best Practice Guide to Avoiding Program Failure Traps While Tuning System Performance (2015)

Effective PM and BA role collaboration : delivering business value through projects and programs successfully / Ori Schibi, Cheryl Lee. (2015)

Business driven technology / Paige Baltzan, Daniels College of Business, University of Denver. (2015)

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The AMA handbook of project management / edited by Paul C. Dinsmore, PMP. Jeannette Cabanis-Brewin. (2014), but availability problem.

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Proview Open Source GNU/GPL Process Control

http://www.proview.se/v3/

Today, the major development of Proview is made by SSAB Oxelösund, believed to be in Sweden.

http://www.proview.se/doc/en_us/index.ht…

Object Reference Manual
http://www.proview.se/doc/en_us/orm_f.ht…

Programmer's Reference Manual
http://www.proview.se/doc/en_us/prm_f.ht…


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Lean MES, and open source MES

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My Pentecostal Daughter Molestor's Appeals case, after some years of grandstanding, died in a fizzle, last month. He is going to be a guest of the state for quite some time. :) :) :)

But his church still runs and it is full of familial child abuse of all types.

ex-Doors, Moscow 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj8QX80O…

The Vietnam War Season 1 Episode 03 The River Styx (January 1964December 1965)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-cxYWy1…

I like these two girls:
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/2011889571…

here, the Lean MES, open source

http://leanmes.net/

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okay, I see not this 2011 copywrite on some of this.
Copyright (C) 2011 Agile Automation Technology LLC

So publications they include:

http://leanmes.net/publications.html

http://leanmes.net/images/Collecting_Sto…

http://leanmes.net/images/Configuring_ve…

http://leanmes.net/images/Using_RSMACC_v…

http://leanmes.net/images/Practical_Guid…


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I like these two girls
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/2011889571…

More about Lean MES

Tried to download Lean MES source code. Their site for this did not work. Never really know how current some of this stuff is.

Here I do find some MES stuff on Source Forge. Thank heaving for Source Forge and FSF.

https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:win…

They say this can run totally web based, and ready to comply with complex fiscal laws like they have in Germany.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openz/?…

includes all of the following:

•Sales and Purchasing
•Customer Relationship Management (CRM)
•Inventory Management
•Project Management
•Finance and accounting
•Manufacturing Execution System (MES)
•Individuality / Customizing on the fly
•Supply Chain Management
•SOAP connectivity Ecommerce, EBusiness, Webshops, CMS

Reviews: https://sourceforge.net/projects/openz/r…

Discussions: https://sourceforge.net/p/openz/discussi…

downloading one file now. 261 Mbytes file is zipped with something .gz

okay, down loading from this:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openz/f…
still .gz

try to open with Internet Explorer

still fiddling.

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Steely Dan live at Shoreline Amphitheater, Mountain View, CA 1993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGt8RebO…

Steely Dan Plush TV Jazz Rock Party 2000 - has Walter Becker playing guitar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhITNSSD…

this is with Larry Carlton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J53Ej7jw…

Try something else, D-Factory, an MES

https://sourceforge.net/projects/d-facto…

maybe this is not actually ready to down load.


Try this one.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/qcadoo/…

told it to download and open with Internet explorer

well, stuff definitely downloaded.

Better if I could have a book where they give you the program on CD, with the book.

Here, talk about Open Source MES
http://www.apriso.com/blog/2015/08/open-…

http://www.apriso.com/solutions/manufact…

http://www.apriso.com/solutions/manufact…

6 factors
http://www.apriso.com/blog/2015/06/6-fac…

http://www.apriso.com/solutions/manufact…

Watch this video to learn why a plant-based Manufacturing Execution System (MES) is not enough.

Datasheets list
http://www.apriso.com/library/data_sheet…

very complex, hard to choose. But some of this stuff is for non-programmers, and in my experience that just makes stuff worse. One of the systems was claimed to be done using PHP.

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Mention of Delphi, programming language and environment. Used today or not, I still want to read about it. Should be post C

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Delphi_Pro…

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MES definition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufactur…

PTC
https://www.ptc.com/en/thingworx/manufac…

ibaset
http://www.ibaset.com/solutions/manufact…

supposedly you just give them an email address and they send you the software
http://www.manufacturing-execution-softw…

Orange Connecticut. Not sure if anything they give out is source code.
http://www.manufacturing-execution-softw…

Here another firm.

Really I want to write my own.

Some explanation
https://www.techopedia.com/definition/11…

ERP, this seems to be the biggest scale version, where the computer has the most info:
https://www.techopedia.com/definition/15…

more about MES
http://searcherp.techtarget.com/definiti…

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So ERP is the most comprehensive formulation, Enterprise Resource Planning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise…

Gartner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gartner

Stamford Connecticut
https://www.gartner.com/en

ERP Software, including free and open source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ER…

Concepts in enterprise resource planning / Ellen Monk, Bret Wagner. (2012)
Concepts in enterprise resource planning / Ellen F. Monk, Bret J. Wagner (2009)
Enterprise resource planning : a transitional approach from the classroom to the business world / Jill O'Sullivan, Gene Ciaola. (2009)

I really want to write my own, or rather I want my organization to write it for all the things we do. Then we can also productize it.

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Dolibarr ERP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolibarr

looks to have what I have been looking for, great online info and a use community and addons

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So Dolibarr was written with:
JavaScript, PHP, MySQL or PostgreSQL

and it is:
Web application (LAMP based system) to manage small and medium entities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ER…

PostgreSQL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostgreSQL

MySQL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL

Does PostgreSQL do more than MySQL, more object oriented?
PostgreSQL: up and running : a practical guide to the advanced open source database / Regina O. Obe and Leo S. Hsu. (2017)

Dolibar addons store. THis stuff they sell for money, Euro's, but it is not many.
https://www.dolistore.com/en/

https://www.dolibarr.org/

So here I go to the area to download stable versions
https://sourceforge.net/projects/dolibar…

so I try to download, 61.1 Mbytes

So yes, I have the latest version, a giant file.




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Tarot: A Rosicrucian Perspective ( AMORC )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo6iLolQ…

So which is better, MySQL or ProstgreSQL?

"Worlds Most Advanced Open Source Database"
https://www.postgresql.org/

PostgreSQL is a powerful, open source object-relational database system. It has more than 15 years of active development and a proven architecture that has earned it a strong reputation for reliability, data integrity, and correctness. It runs on all major operating systems, including Linux, UNIX (AIX, BSD, HP-UX, macOS, Solaris), and Windows. It is fully ACID compliant, has full support for foreign keys, joins, views, triggers, and stored procedures (in multiple languages). It includes most SQL:2008 data types, including INTEGER, NUMERIC, BOOLEAN, CHAR, VARCHAR, DATE, INTERVAL, and TIMESTAMP. It also supports storage of binary large objects, including pictures, sounds, or video. It has native programming interfaces for C/C++, Java, .Net, Perl, Python, Ruby, Tcl, ODBC, among others, and exceptional documentation.

Says it is written in C.
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/…

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/…
Coming out of UC Berkeley, from something in 1982. This is also the origins of Sun and its Unix.
Object relational database is a middle ground between relational and object databases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-rel…

Object Databases, some still working on this, interesting applications
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_dat…

MySQL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL

had been owned by a Swedish firm which is now owned by Oracle.
written in C and C++

Lots of free website hosts offer MySQL, installed on that server, ready to go.

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NOLO, Chartres - Iberville, doesn't the black girl in purple look good? I think this picture originally came from Google Street View
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/42/00/35/8914…

Chelsea Manning, running for the US Senate from Maryland, quite interesting
https://www.democracynow.org/

Steely Dan - Katy Lied (1975, Studio Album) 09 Any World (That I'm Welcome To)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7XQGB-k…

Let it rain- Eric Clapton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi3Wxjnj…

Live, with some friends, and with his women
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvN6zRNl…

Live, Royal Albert Hall, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqXrTDtD…

Derek and the Dominos live at the Fillmore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnDSN_XK…

Bring It On!
An Inflated Stock Market Is Evidence of Spiritual Sickness, And It Is The Death Of Creativity And Innovation
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/d…

Reading now:

Algorithms + Data Structures = Programs
by Niklaus Wirth
1976

Like I said, I want to understand how the ideas originally developed.

Now, I am done with Pascal and Modula-2, but Wirth has been such an influence, I'm going to read all of his available book. Then after I go on to LISP, and then Object LISP.

I have read many Dummies books, over the years. Most of them are actually very good, in my view.


Trigonometry For Dummies Paperback – February 24, 2014
by
Mary Jane Sterling

Maybe you think you already know it all. But unless you have recently gone through a book like this, you probably don't.

https://www.amazon.com/Trigonometry-Dumm…

Business Statistics for Dummies
https://www.amazon.com/Business-Statisti…

Now thanks to GACA for bringing R into the discussion. And does this replace SAS? I had not been thinking of reading about SAS, but if R replaces it, I want to know why. So I will read about SAS first, and then R.

The Book of R, by Tilman M. Davies
https://www.amazon.com/Book-First-Course…

and then Statistical Analysis with R, for dummies
https://www.amazon.com/Statistical-Analy…

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