Them Damn Cubans
PrimetimeSchein
Michigan
So for my fellow mongers I have some questions. Being a Detroit area clubber I don't think I've encountered a Cuban up here if we even have any.
I've noticed the past few months though that there is a certain hostility towards the Cuban dancers. Can someone explain to me why they're so hated? I read TXbananas most recent review so are they all ROBS like that?
Also what states are they mostly in? It's pretty hard to piss off an entire clubber community but it seems like the Cubans specifically are the black sheep when it comes SCs.
I've noticed the past few months though that there is a certain hostility towards the Cuban dancers. Can someone explain to me why they're so hated? I read TXbananas most recent review so are they all ROBS like that?
Also what states are they mostly in? It's pretty hard to piss off an entire clubber community but it seems like the Cubans specifically are the black sheep when it comes SCs.
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More so it seems to be a few Mexicans in the clubs here. I can’t ever remember meeting a Cuban in the area clubs.
Not too many Asians in the area either, which is too bad as I enjoy some Spicy Pad Thai once in a while...
Just not the ones that work in the clubs. It's like they mentor each other on how to promise the world without ever fulfilling the promise.
Most speak very little or no English. "wanna dance" is their opening line. Because of this they treat the job as more like working in a whore house than a strip club. They don't ask for drinks or want to talk. Just get the money and move on to the next guy.
Now there are some guys that like this approach. I'm not one of them. I did sample a couple of good looking ones when they first started and almost went to VIP with one but now I just flat reject the ones that do come up to me. Most have learned to not waste their time on me.
The other dancers do not like then either. Cut rate competition.
I do like a good Cuban sandwich. :)
Under almost 6-decades of a totalitarian communist regime w/ very very scarce resources, many (but not all) people will do w/e they need-to to survive or just get-by a little-better than they o/w would - since there is total-control by the gov many people learn to cheat and be deceptive to get around the totally-controlling regime and some people will step on others just to get-by since resources are so scarce - there is not nearly enough for everyone so people screw each other over to just get the bare-necessities - the Cuban ROBs grew-up this way and that is how they are wired - it's unfortunately cultural and is seen as the way to get ahead and get ahead fast; almost like an accepted thing, i.e. if I screw you over is not on me, it's on you for allowing yourself to be screwed-over and not being on your feet (the thinking among those that do what they do) - so these Cubans that never had anything and had to hustle and cheat to get the bare-necessities, come to the US and now they can have pretty-much anything they want and never had; thus just like they used to lie and cheat for the bare-necessities now they lie and cheat to get everything they want and get it fast since they never had anything and craved it all their lives.
Many often change w/ time and once they get established - i.e. the Cubans that came 10 years ago think lowly of the new-arrivals, then 10 years later the once new arrivals will think lowly of the ones that just came.
But; it *is* kinda endemic of Latin culture overall for their to be a lot of corruption and cheating - e.g. countries like Mexico, Venezuela, Argentina, could be way better off than they are but not for the systemic corruption over decades if not centuries - w.r.t. Cuba and it being a totalitarian regime and how that changes people's behavior and how the Cuban-dancers act, the same thing can be seen w/ Russian and Eastern Euro dancers and how ROBish and cutthroat they can be since they also had a history of totalitarian communist regimes.
Miami is controlled by the Cubans from politics to business owners, on down - and is corrupt as fuck - not corrupt in that one is appalled, but corrupt to tne point it makes one wanna puke.
Of course not all Cubans are this way (crooked); it's just a sizeable minority that although a minority it's too sizable - most Cubans are very hard-working and honest, and almost-all, including the crooks, are very family oriented - particularly those not form the capital Havana, they tend to be almost-all honest and humble, but unfortunately the biggest portion of Cubans live in the capital of Havana and those are the ones that are mostly the crooks.
This seems to have happened just recently in the last couple of years as if it became an open-secret shared among each other that this (stripping) was a legal way to make a lot of $$$ and make it fast - it almost seems as if it was something organized since they seem to know, and hit, the best-known/most-profitable clubs across the country - many Cubans pay smugglers to get them to the US and I would not be totally surprised if it's the smugglers themselves that put these girls in the know about stripping and how fast $$$ can be made, so they (smugglers) can be paid-back faster - not saying the smugglers force them into stripping, but put them in the know - and also not saying this is going-on, I just find it kinda odd the way the Cubans have taken over stripping in many areas including Miami where 10 years ago yeah there were lots of Cuban dancers in Miami but lots of everything else too.
Why can someone get away with saying this but not "I avoid AA dancers like the plague" without taking a ton of flack about being racist?
I'm not meaning to call out JS69, it could have been a comment by anyone as many feel that way.
The big cities of south and central Florida ( Miami, Ft Lauderdale, WPB, Orlando, Tampa), plus northeastern New Jersey (especially Hudson County, Union County, parts of Bergen County, and maybe a few parts of Essex County) are the two big Cuban strongholds in the US. I don't have much experience with them, as I generally prefer American girls.
I'd venture a guess that close to 100% of the Cuban dancers theses days, were born in the US and have never lived in, as Meat says, a "corrupt political environment." Many might even be third generation Cubans here.
But I think the overall fear and mistrust of government and other institutions probably takes a few generations to go away completely. Look at Italians or Russians. They also came from places where you would have to have been a fool to trust the local authorities. The end result was organized crime.
We must travel in different circles. I know many born here that don't speak any English other than "broken".
I think what the Cubans have done with Miami is incredible. My dad lived in Dade county for a few years when he was a kid in the 50s, before the Revolution, and he talks about how sleepy and remote it felt at the time. Little to do, not many people to do it with. I remember hearing in a documentary that, as recently as the 50s, all of Miami-Dade county had one cop on patrol overnight. As my dad puts it, it was basically a retirement community for blue-collar Jews from NY who couldn't afford to move to Palm Beach.
And then the Cuban Revolution happened. And before you knew it, the entire middle class and upper class of Cuba had relocated itself to South Florida to escape from socialism. They brought their experience, business know-how, education, etc.* And look at Miami now. My dad doesn't even recognize it anymore. It's one of the biggest cities in America, a hub of finance, trade, the arts, etc. I would actually call it the most important city in Latin America. And the Cuban emigre population is mostly responsible for that. I wish we had more of them, even if NONE of them speaks English.
*Yes, I know, there were handouts from the US government, too, and that was wrong. But still, they didn't build Miami on welfare. Cuban businessmen built Miami.
But, yes, as an immigrant ethic group themail Cuban bloc/community has thrived mostly with positive contributions.
Castro was playing a cynical political game by releasing the Marielitos and shipping them to Florida. He assumed that they would behave badly and that Americans would react by turning against all Cuban immigrants. He also assumed that their bad behavior and the inevitable reactions to it would reveal the hollowness of the American system. It doesn't seem to have happened. Also, at least some of the Marielitos were probably actual political prisoners. They, at least, deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Anyway, the good news is that Fidel is dead. And so is Che Guevara. Two down, one to go.
While there were many, the criminal element was still in the minority.