I find it Amazing!!

That's a good thing. The whole point is to enjoy the experience.

"I had just finished up a good lad dance ..."

What was his name?

Unless it's the kinda club where the dances are with a timer, good chance the song is more along the lines of 3 to 3.5 minutes even if it feels longer - 30 bucks for 3/3.5 minutes I don't find too good a value, in about 10 minutes of fun one is down ~100-bucks in 10 minutes - cool if one never/rarely gets dances but too expensive to truly indulge, IMO

good catch flag. butt i guess he meant different.

it can be amazing the experience of some of the girls. i know i appreciate them.

It is pretty cool, but expensive. I know damn well there's no other way I'm getting a hot twenty something who's spent thousands in surgery to make her body look more appealing to grind on me while I grope her openly. That's usually reserved for athletes, CEOs, and other wealthy fucks. And hell, those same guys be right there in the club doing the same damn thing anyway.

It's why there will always be demand for strip clubs. For the normal folk like me to enjoy the hotness.

Your enthusiasm at the idea of a mere lap dance is kinda surprising given how long you have been in this hobby. Most guys with 15 plus years of experience start bitching at the high cumulative cost of lap dances. Such veterans also tend to be more likely to expect sex and be disappointed with just contact. But I'm glad your havin fun.

@heeres that is an awesome good start to PL LIFE. You didn't break the bank and you left the club with a smile on your face. As long as a PL leaves the club happy, then it was worth it.

For example today I spent a total of $90 on my ATF DS and it was totally worth it. She is a beautiful 9 in my book and I am so sexually attracted to her it is ridiculous. And for that $90 and with a 9 over the course of two hours, I got to 1) spoon and tease with her at the bar with my dick hard and parked between her ass cheeks for 20 min, 2) watch her on stage with a few good lap teases and her pretty pussy in my face, and 3) get three super sensual and high mileage two way contact lap dances with my shirt unbuttoned and her beautiful naked body rubbing all over mine and my raging hard boner that ended with her intentionally LDKing me. It wasn't FS but to me it was totally worth it. My ATF DS is a true out of my league fantasy woman and spending what I did to have the time I did with a woman that beautiful was absolutely worth it. And yes, amazing.

I find it interesting that JS69 remarks on the OP's 15+ years of experience and how he really should have higher expectations, whereas SirLapdancealot congratulates him on "an awesome good start to PL life" LOL. Clearly the OP has been clubbing for at least 13 years, but some of us (including me) somehow manage to visit SCs for many years without even dreaming of extras or OTC. I was a lapper-only PL from 1994 until 2013 (!), when I finally discovered ITC blowjobs. It took me *another* two years to start seeing strippers OTC. The upside of my excruciatingly slow learning curve is that I kept my SC spending at $2K-3K per year for almost 20 years. Only in the past couple of years has it increased to $10K per year.

Getting back to his original point: Yes, it is absolutely worth it to me to spend $100-200 for an afternoon or evening of high-mileage lap dances, stage tips, and drinks. My two CFs at one club are 24 and 20, have natural D's, and love to grind when they dance for me -- and they're delightful to converse with, too!

I'm with you heeres. I'm not one to look for more than great lap dances, but at much lower prices.

@MrDeuce LOL I don't care how long you've been in the game, if you are still excited about $30 dick teases, that's early PL LIFE stuff.

And that is nice you have two all natural D CF options. Now that's balling at PL LIFE!

I find it amazing that so many PLs believe a single-song, topless-only lapdance can be considered "value" at $30 per. I realize pricing in some markets is abnormally high, due in part to the local cost of living, but local regulars usually realize this and leave paying high prices for low/no return to the amateurs.

@WillMunny out here in Portland the single LD cost ranges from $20 to $40. I avoid the $40 places and stick with the $25 ones with good two way contact except pussy and high mileage. The only way I would ever pay $30 for topless only one-way contact is if she gave ultra high mileage.

As far as lap dance prices are concerned, I never pay more than $20 except for occasional $30 nude lappers at Club 390 and Jimmy's. I buy *lots* of lap dances at $15 each from my two D-cupped delights. One of them even pulls up my shirt and rubs her bodacious tatas on my bare chest throughout our dances! But it's certainly true that I still *love* lap dances and lapgasms, even after 20+ years.

^ I guess it depends on when you started the hobby. When i first started out shortly after the millennium, typically $20 (even back then) got you mostly air dances or one way contact for about 3 to 3.5 minutes. So if i got what the OP described back then, i would have spent much more than i did. Getting just one lapper seemed like a big deal, and multiple lappers was only reserved for my favorite dances. Rooms/VIPs seemed like a waste or overly expensive commitment for a 30 minute^ version of the overpriced dance. But i do agree that my spending increased exponentially once the more fun lappers and VIPs became more common despite being roughly the same price over 15 years later.

I'm with heeres - as it's important to enjoy the experience from time to time. I think that's part of what keeps some of us coming back. The other points made are all valid (regarding the cost vs benefit), and I am also interested in maximizing my return on investment. It's refreshing to hear about heeres enjoyment of a hot dancer.

@Cashman1234 LOL even though it is refreshing to read the story I bet you would have parlayed that $30 woody for a $60 LDK. I know I would have.

I think in my experience it has been good to leave ITC extras and OTP FS off the table throughout my PL LIFE. Since the LDK is the pinnacle of my stripper liaisons, I am more inclined to appreciate a story like heeres's and find value in a $30 LD. If I had that with an all natural 8+ I would have definitely continued a few more and go for the LDK. Heck, I would have likely tried to LDK for $30 but that is hard to pull off for me.

SirLDAlot - I agree with your first part. It is enjoyable and cost effective to LDK with a hot dancer!

I know you have a different ranking system - as the LDK is at the top of your list. I will pursue extras and ITC (and OTC) FS - as those are at the top of my list. They involve different costs and benefits - but they are very enjoyable to me.

The simple excitement of being with a hot dancer - is something that I find important to renew at times. I think there was a bit of that excitement in heeres post - and that was refreshing to hear again.

@Cashman1234 well said. At the core of PL LIFE! is simply being with a hot dancer. The only thing that changes between PLs is how much we pay and for what "being with" includes. But at the end of the day it is still about fulfilling a fantasy with an amazingly beautiful woman.

SirLDAlot - exactly! I need to read a post like this from time to time - to pull me out of the cost vs extras expectation. It helps me to remember why I got into this in the first place!

@Cashman1234 I think we all started our PL LIFE! similar to heeres's first post. The cost may have been a little different and also the level of interaction with the dancer, but effectively we all start the same way: get teased by a beautiful sexy woman enough to want more.

And I do appreciate you and other extras PLs sharing that you still enjoy the LDK even though you've gone to greener pastures. I've read some posts by members that no longer get anything out of a LD and even BJs and I personally would not want to be in that space.

But, like MrDeuce, I've been enjoying the LDK for 20+ PL LIFE! years and I don't ever see it 'losing its luster'. In fact, I've had the best PL LIFE! LDKs in my entire life over the last year. I've learned to refine the practice (LOL the 'art') of it and I found my ATF DS that arouses me like no other stripper ever has. And heeres's post made me think about it and appreciate it even more.

Well said SirLDAlot! Once a PL gets hooked - it's not a bad thing. It can be a great time to explore what works best. It's not a cheap hobby - but it has some great rewards!