So doing some research I found this website and am looking for advice. I've never been to a strip club before. You tell the truth I'm actually a virgin so... But with some things that have happened to me recently I really want to get out and have fun. From what I can see Follies appears to be a good place to go especially with all the stuff that seems to go on there from what I've read. I'm really looking for any advice I can get. I'm not very good with people but I'm trying to work on that. I'm really a shy person and am trying to get over that. I have about $500 saved up right now and was thinking of going soon. Any advice really would be appreciated.
If you're set on going to a club, read through the forum discussions as you'll get a better idea of how to handle yourself than you will by posting a thread (you just joined, you have no reviews, no trusts, etc.)
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Follies sounds kind of intense for a first-timer... crowded, smoky, somewhat aggressive women. I'd advise spending that first $500 in a couple of nicer clubs first. You can have a good time in two for $250 each. Or if one experience isn't what you expected, at least you have a backup plan.
just don't do strip clubs in vegas. i second the hong kong in tijuana. so many hotties there. and certainly much cheaper than about any other stripclub. and 99% chance of you experiencing sex. and don't feel bad being a virgin. i was virgin until 29. the stars never happened to align for sex until i met my wife. (what an expensive mistake that turned out to be.)
Robs (rip off bitch) will try to take advantage of you if they smell weakness. Don't let them! Pay for services rendered only and clarify everything up front!
Thanks to everyone answering. I've been looking on here at a lot of discussions so I have seen some of the advice given. I guess I'm just nervous. I guess going into it a little further I want to do this because I was recently hurt by someone I've been in love with for awhile now. She's hurt me before but I've always believed in her and never like this. Recently she had me meet up with her and she brought her new boyfriend. I know she's dated around for a while but we didn't really talk about it. Whenever I said something about a relationship she said she doesn't want one with anyone. Yes she knows that I love her. She knows exactly how I feel but she says I'm her best friend and doesn't want to lose me. I don't want to abandon her but I don't know what to do so. Part of the reason I'm still a virgin is because I've been so loyal to her because I've wanted her for several years now. I don't know when I'm going to the club but I really do want to. I don't know if this is what I need but I'm really not sure what to do.
^^^ Funkycold88, how old are you? If you're still in you're early 20's you should skip the club and try other avenues, maybe even a friend of one the girl you're so in love with. Young people tend to hook up easily with people they know. If you're in your later 20's and older you start to gain enough wisdom to navigate the strip club scene. Dip your toes in carefully.
I say go clubbing! I wish I'd done more in my 20s but I was very practical with my money at the time. Why did I wait into my 30s to learn what boobs feel like?
It sounds like that's what you need, badly. Your ex-gf seems to see you as one of her best girlfriends, which isn't where you want to be. I had an ex when I was in high school who saw me this way (I hid my desire to fuck the shit out of her under a thick layer of civility) and after fucking several other girls, I was suddenly irresistible to her.
I shudder to think about what would happen if you walk into a strip club. My vision of this would be you walk in, the first girl who sets down is a heroin addict who asks how much you have to spend and like a loyal puppy, you tell her that you brought $500, but already tipped the valet $50 and the door girl $75 and spent $40 on drinks. She will say we can do a VIP for $350 and have some fun! And once you get in there she'll say oh, if you wanted to "do more", that would be another $200 tip, and asks if you could come back with $550 the following week. Since you have imprinted on her like with your ex, you will sell your stove and refrigerator and show up the following week... Unfortunately, once you have given her the $550 up-front, it turns out that the bouncer has gotten really strict since the last time you were there.
Go to a local, mellow club for a day shift. Get a few lapdances and get out. You can do more the next time, if you want.
Never go to a strip club with a broken heart. It's a recipe for disaster. If you do anyway, do not tell the dancers about your broken heart. It's like painting a bullseye on your wallet.
Related to that, if you go to a strip club with a broken heart, then *definitely* leave your debit/credit cards at home.
@Call.Me.Ishmael, Dude, why are you trying to get him to sell his refrigerator? He's going to need that unless he has to switch over to eating cat food after the financial strain the ROBs are putting on him. And then once he can't make rent on his apartment, being evicted with the refrigerator missing is going to prevent him from living anywhere other than a cardboard box for at least the next few years. The worst part is that strip club management usually rounds up the guys living in cardboard boxes behind the club every week or so and tells them to move on.
Don't listen to these guys Funkycold88, any one of these girls would be honored to be your new girlfriend. What the heck living in a van by the river ain't so bad just ask Juicey, and it's so totally worth it.
A few years ago, a buddy talked me into taking him to a strip club after a cataclysmic break up with his long-term girlfriend / fiancee. I tried to talk him out of it, but eventually decided that he was safer with me than without me.
I'm not sure if that was my worst experience in a strip club, but it was in the top 3.
He got bombed, but not bad enough to get thrown out (unfortunately). He slurred about his relationship issues to a couple of dancers and it was like someone tossed a stuck pig into the shark tank at the aquarium.
He blew through his cash pretty quickly (about $300). When I saw a blonde dancer leading him by the hand from the lap dance area to the ATM, I intercepted and took his wallet. He could barely stand or form words at that point. It was like "A Weekend at Bernie's" but with the possibility of vomit.
He was pissed but I'm a lot bigger than him. The dancer was batshit angry, and then offered to "take care of me" if I gave his wallet back. I said 'no' because I'm not a dickhead.
I carried him out after that. He called me the next day in the afternoon to ask what happened the night before. The last thing he remembered was us pulling into the parking lot at the club and me saying "Just don't be an asshole."
No, really. Don't go to the strip club with a broken heart.
@Funkycold88, If you're really serious about becoming a man, I would also recommend removing any estrogens from your diet. Some of the most common ones are phytoestrogens like soy. Almost anything with "Protein!" on the label that sounds like big muscles and masculine generally has soy as one of the first ingredients and is actually feminimizing you. Also, most of the vegetarian meat substitutes (Sunflower burgers and Hilary's burgers are exceptions). Almost all salad dressings at the grocery store are made with soybean oil as the first ingredient. You can shake up some balsamic vinegar and olive oil which is a legit food oil instead. Likewise, the hops in beer are phytoestrogens, so maybe Captain and Coke would be a good thing to order at the club instead.
Then there are the xenoestrogens you get from foods in plastic jars and bottles or phytoestrogen-lined cans. So, prefer glass containers when you're shopping.
Also, the tolerable upper limit for Boron is 20mg according to WebMD, so you would probably want to take more than the 3mg on the label of most Boron supplements. I would guess at least 6-9mg.
Also, behaviorally, instead of "standing by your woman", until you have fucked her at least 17 times, loyalty should wane and distancing begin when she starts acting shitty. If you reward bad behavior, you're only going to get more.
If she starts acting shitty after that, it's probably just that she feels insecure, and you mainly need to fuck her 17 times in a row and tell her how great she feels when her pussy gets that hot until she starts feeling secure in the relationship again.
@ppwh that gets to what I have been saying for years. Beer is full of female hormones, how I know this is because when you give a guy a couple of beers, he just can't shut the fuck up ! ;)
To the OP: Seriously, you've been "friend-zoned" and you're just putting salt on the wounds to keep talking to her. I think most of the PLs here have been there... got to know a woman, wanted to date her, she is "not ready" and then one day she mentions her new relationship with someone else.
The best way to get your mind off a woman is put other women in front of you. Quit talking to her. If she actually gives a squat about you, let her be the one to call you and check up on you. 99% chance she never will.
I'm going to guess there's a 90% chance that she will. There has to be something about him that she likes or she wouldn't have kept him around for years. She will probably wonder from time to time if he ever laid off the phyto/xenoestrogens and gave his balls a chance to realize they were supposed to be testes rather than ovaries.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. No offense to anyone who did their first hookup for money. It happens. You could do a lot worse than some of the better girls at Follies, but if you're in your 20s or 30s just take a wingman to a night club or a bar around one or two o'clock in the morning and save your money. Live near a four year college? Go where those people go.
Funkycold88- As a virgin - you have to be very cautious going to a SC for the first time. Agree with others who have said don't tell anyone about your issues, don't tell them this is your first time at a strip club.
Do your research on which club you are going to, know what the dance prices are and how things generally work. How much can you touch etc. Knowledge will help you to enjoy your first experience and not make you look like a noob.
I would also suggest not bringing all of the money you have. Take this in small doses. The first time you go, only stage tip. Get to see a bunch of dancers up close. If lap dances are done on the floor discreetly watch and see what's allowed. Knowing where you live could also help us to suggest a club where you can get a good experience and not break the bank.
This hobby can become addicting if you are not careful. Set a budget and don't go over it.
Also please remember, this is just fantasy, not reality. Their job is to make you FEEL like she's your girlfriend but she is not. For your second visit, get some lap dances and go with the idea you want to have fun with girls and that is all. Depending on dance prices, don't get more than 1-2 dances with any dancer and get dances with multiple dancers. You need variety right now not just one dancer.
I would also set a time limit for your first couple times. No more than a couple hours.
Have fun and remember you will not find a gf at the strip club.
Thanks to everyone so far. I'm off this Monday so I'm thinking about going. I know it's a holiday but it's one of the few times I can go during a day shift. I live in the Atlanta area so I can go to any of them Follies just seems like one of the better choices.
@funky Remember, the secret TUSCL symbol for Follies is to bring in one of the little hula dancer bobblebutt figurines (available in most high end truck stops and NASA gift shops) and put it on your table. If other TUSCLers are there, we may come over and say Hi.
If any of the dancers ask you what it's for, don't tell them! They don't know that we get together on line and talk about them.
Don't know about having a hula dancer but would be willing to to meet if someone wants to be there Monday. I have a tendency to really keep to myself if I'm alone.
Act confident....ask the dancers how long they've worked there and things like what type of music they like to listen to/dance to. Tell them the truth that you've never been there (wherever you go), but do some research on another club (a crappy one nearby) and say you went there and were not impressed. Then say something like, but this place seems cool -or whatever something nice like that.
Do not mention it's your first time ever in a strip club. The dancers will realize easy money and will go heavy on the stripper shit (oh I like him more etc). They just want that $$$. You could even tell them you don't have too much money today (the day you go), but want to check it out (the stage shows) for a bit. Don't go with the first dancer that approaches you (the first time you go, eventually you'll have favorites that recognize you and that's a good thing in my opinion). It could be within one or two minutes of arrival.
I used to be super shy at clubs (I'm pretty shy in general), but have learned the ways of strip clubs. I have been going for over 20 years now!
The first time I went I was 19 and my buddy at work (several years older) was like I'm taking you tonight to an all nude club (I wasn't eve old enough to drink obviously). I was like holy shit when I went in! Don't do that! Luckily , my buddy gave me the scoop on the place and had been there before which made it much easier. He paid the cover and the drinks (sodas, etc) as well. Needless to say, we are still friends haha. Now I am married and my wife goes to the clubs with me (sometimes). I may have not done so well in school for 14 years (two years college), but I sure did learn the game of strip clubs!
Have fun, be confident and don't put up with any shit (from the dancers, they'll give you their sad stories about needing to pay rent or their car payment etc remember - not your problem)!
@Funkycold88>At first I thought you might be trolling, but reading your second post, about your infatuation, you sound legit. I'm guessing you're 29 (the 88 in your handle the year you were born?), but regardless, you say you're a virgin but didn't say whether you've had a BJ or HJ or experienced anything else.
If you've never had a hand job, I'd recommend dipping your toes in the water first by going to an Asian massage parlor for a happy ending. Would be much cheaper and a good start (It's been more than 25 years since I've been to one, but guessing it would run you about $60-$80 for half-hour). Low pressure, private. Chances are, you won't get a lingerie model, but I had great service from older Asian ladies back in the day because they're experienced and know how to handle a well-oiled cock.
If you have only $500 in savings, I wouldn't blow it all on some money-grabbing stripper that might leave you with blue balls.
And forget that chick that only wants to be "friends."
@Lurker_X if you're not already convinced the trip to Follies is worth it, you never will be.
If you make that long of a trip, though, do plan for multiple days. Follies can have it's days when all the wild bitches decide to take a day off at the same time.
Japrufrock honestly no I've never done anything but made out with a few women. $500 is only what I've set aside directly for this honestly I can spend more. I've looked at the massage parlors but I feel I want more than that. I'm confused to be honest and I don't know what to do. To be honest I still love the one I want the most but at the same time fuck her. I've done everything I could for her even to get her where she is. I don't know what expect to happen if I go to a SC but I hope it at least changes things for me. Again if anybody wants to go let me know. Would rather have someone to talk to than be by me self.
@Funkycold88: Since you've never had any kind of sexual release with a woman, I'd recommend starting slow rather than spending $500 in one shot (to to speak). I know you want more than a hand job at an AMP, but it might not be a bad idea to start there, gain some experience, maybe some confidence, and then hit the strip club for full service.
You'll know what you're getting at an AMP, no games, no hidden costs, just a flat fee and maybe a tip. At a SC, you might have to go through some costly lap dances and buy overpriced drinks before getting what you want, and there is no guarantee that particular club or that particular strippers offers any extras.
Pooly...great point. The stripper mentioning she's supporting her kid (or kids) and needing money is great news. It's the "I'm behind on rent or rent or car payment is due/overdue" shit that we all can do without (doesn't guarantee any more fun , just guarantees they are bad with money and it's annoying haha)
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If you're set on going to a club, read through the forum discussions as you'll get a better idea of how to handle yourself than you will by posting a thread (you just joined, you have no reviews, no trusts, etc.)
1. Read through the open-access forums.
2. Contribute reviews and to discussions.
3. Make new discussion posts.
...in that order.
even better. Lose your virginity to a Mexican hooker!
You have op confused with the other guy. He just wants to fuck a stripper. Not date one!
Bring as much money as you are comfortable spending. It's possible you will spend all of it.
Don't use the ATM. Leave your credit cards and ATM card at home.
Enjoy your time in the club itc. Enjoy the stage dances, and enjoy the attention from the girls.
Remember that this itc world is as fake as the tits on many dancers!
Leave your feelings at home - don't crush on any of the dancers or bartenders.
Have a real good time in the unreal world of strip clubs...
Sounds like you married the first girl that WOULD have sex with you. I married the first one that WOULDN'T have sex with me.
Sounds like it worked out about the same for both of us.
Conclusion?
It sounds like that's what you need, badly. Your ex-gf seems to see you as one of her best girlfriends, which isn't where you want to be. I had an ex when I was in high school who saw me this way (I hid my desire to fuck the shit out of her under a thick layer of civility) and after fucking several other girls, I was suddenly irresistible to her.
I shudder to think about what would happen if you walk into a strip club. My vision of this would be you walk in, the first girl who sets down is a heroin addict who asks how much you have to spend and like a loyal puppy, you tell her that you brought $500, but already tipped the valet $50 and the door girl $75 and spent $40 on drinks. She will say we can do a VIP for $350 and have some fun! And once you get in there she'll say oh, if you wanted to "do more", that would be another $200 tip, and asks if you could come back with $550 the following week. Since you have imprinted on her like with your ex, you will sell your stove and refrigerator and show up the following week... Unfortunately, once you have given her the $550 up-front, it turns out that the bouncer has gotten really strict since the last time you were there.
Go to a local, mellow club for a day shift. Get a few lapdances and get out. You can do more the next time, if you want.
Never go to a strip club with a broken heart. It's a recipe for disaster. If you do anyway, do not tell the dancers about your broken heart. It's like painting a bullseye on your wallet.
Related to that, if you go to a strip club with a broken heart, then *definitely* leave your debit/credit cards at home.
I'm not sure if that was my worst experience in a strip club, but it was in the top 3.
He got bombed, but not bad enough to get thrown out (unfortunately). He slurred about his relationship issues to a couple of dancers and it was like someone tossed a stuck pig into the shark tank at the aquarium.
He blew through his cash pretty quickly (about $300). When I saw a blonde dancer leading him by the hand from the lap dance area to the ATM, I intercepted and took his wallet. He could barely stand or form words at that point. It was like "A Weekend at Bernie's" but with the possibility of vomit.
He was pissed but I'm a lot bigger than him. The dancer was batshit angry, and then offered to "take care of me" if I gave his wallet back. I said 'no' because I'm not a dickhead.
I carried him out after that. He called me the next day in the afternoon to ask what happened the night before. The last thing he remembered was us pulling into the parking lot at the club and me saying "Just don't be an asshole."
No, really. Don't go to the strip club with a broken heart.
Then there are the xenoestrogens you get from foods in plastic jars and bottles or phytoestrogen-lined cans. So, prefer glass containers when you're shopping.
Also, the tolerable upper limit for Boron is 20mg according to WebMD, so you would probably want to take more than the 3mg on the label of most Boron supplements. I would guess at least 6-9mg.
If she starts acting shitty after that, it's probably just that she feels insecure, and you mainly need to fuck her 17 times in a row and tell her how great she feels when her pussy gets that hot until she starts feeling secure in the relationship again.
The best way to get your mind off a woman is put other women in front of you. Quit talking to her. If she actually gives a squat about you, let her be the one to call you and check up on you. 99% chance she never will.
Do your research on which club you are going to, know what the dance prices are and how things generally work. How much can you touch etc. Knowledge will help you to enjoy your first experience and not make you look like a noob.
I would also suggest not bringing all of the money you have. Take this in small doses. The first time you go, only stage tip. Get to see a bunch of dancers up close. If lap dances are done on the floor discreetly watch and see what's allowed. Knowing where you live could also help us to suggest a club where you can get a good experience and not break the bank.
This hobby can become addicting if you are not careful. Set a budget and don't go over it.
Also please remember, this is just fantasy, not reality. Their job is to make you FEEL like she's your girlfriend but she is not. For your second visit, get some lap dances and go with the idea you want to have fun with girls and that is all. Depending on dance prices, don't get more than 1-2 dances with any dancer and get dances with multiple dancers. You need variety right now not just one dancer.
I would also set a time limit for your first couple times. No more than a couple hours.
Have fun and remember you will not find a gf at the strip club.
If any of the dancers ask you what it's for, don't tell them! They don't know that we get together on line and talk about them.
Do not mention it's your first time ever in a strip club. The dancers will realize easy money and will go heavy on the stripper shit (oh I like him more etc). They just want that $$$. You could even tell them you don't have too much money today (the day you go), but want to check it out (the stage shows) for a bit. Don't go with the first dancer that approaches you (the first time you go, eventually you'll have favorites that recognize you and that's a good thing in my opinion). It could be within one or two minutes of arrival.
I used to be super shy at clubs (I'm pretty shy in general), but have learned the ways of strip clubs. I have been going for over 20 years now!
The first time I went I was 19 and my buddy at work (several years older) was like I'm taking you tonight to an all nude club (I wasn't eve old enough to drink obviously). I was like holy shit when I went in! Don't do that! Luckily , my buddy gave me the scoop on the place and had been there before which made it much easier. He paid the cover and the drinks (sodas, etc) as well. Needless to say, we are still friends haha. Now I am married and my wife goes to the clubs with me (sometimes). I may have not done so well in school for 14 years (two years college), but I sure did learn the game of strip clubs!
Have fun, be confident and don't put up with any shit (from the dancers, they'll give you their sad stories about needing to pay rent or their car payment etc remember - not your problem)!
If you've never had a hand job, I'd recommend dipping your toes in the water first by going to an Asian massage parlor for a happy ending. Would be much cheaper and a good start (It's been more than 25 years since I've been to one, but guessing it would run you about $60-$80 for half-hour). Low pressure, private. Chances are, you won't get a lingerie model, but I had great service from older Asian ladies back in the day because they're experienced and know how to handle a well-oiled cock.
If you have only $500 in savings, I wouldn't blow it all on some money-grabbing stripper that might leave you with blue balls.
And forget that chick that only wants to be "friends."
If you make that long of a trip, though, do plan for multiple days. Follies can have it's days when all the wild bitches decide to take a day off at the same time.
can't live without them.
and even harder to live with them.
sooooo.... rent them.
You'll know what you're getting at an AMP, no games, no hidden costs, just a flat fee and maybe a tip. At a SC, you might have to go through some costly lap dances and buy overpriced drinks before getting what you want, and there is no guarantee that particular club or that particular strippers offers any extras.