Hate to do it but a semi political post
larryfisherman
California
On Twitter (it's a form of social media) both Barack Obama and Donald Trump condemned the stuff that happened at Charlottesville. Nothing surprising there. What was surprising was the response to the tweets.
Donald had four or five tweets on Charlottesville, most of them had around 100,000 likes with one of the tweets getting close to 200,000 likes. Obama had three tweets on Charlottesville, one of them got two million likes, one of them got a million likes, and the other one got close to 900,000 likes. That's ten times as many likes as Trump. I was kind of surprised to say the least. Same thing happened with the Manchester and London attacks, Obama tweeted about it and it got a million likes, Trump tweeted it and it got 100,000 to 150,000 likes.
Somebody explain this to me. What does this mean?
Is Obama that much more popular than Trump?
Is Obama more well liked than Trump?
Is it something else?
It's also surprising because Trump is kinda known as the king of Twitter right now.
Thoughts?
Donald had four or five tweets on Charlottesville, most of them had around 100,000 likes with one of the tweets getting close to 200,000 likes. Obama had three tweets on Charlottesville, one of them got two million likes, one of them got a million likes, and the other one got close to 900,000 likes. That's ten times as many likes as Trump. I was kind of surprised to say the least. Same thing happened with the Manchester and London attacks, Obama tweeted about it and it got a million likes, Trump tweeted it and it got 100,000 to 150,000 likes.
Somebody explain this to me. What does this mean?
Is Obama that much more popular than Trump?
Is Obama more well liked than Trump?
Is it something else?
It's also surprising because Trump is kinda known as the king of Twitter right now.
Thoughts?
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If Obama was actually so popular, the Democrats would have won the last election handily based on his legacy. People got sick of a failing Obamacare, his race and class division, and his attacks on the police, military, and any religion that isn't Islam.
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It's so thoroughly obvious that it doesn't need an explanation. White supremacy deserves to be condemned in the most unequivocal way. Trump was tone-deaf by stating that there was blame on both sides -- probably because he didn't want to alienate all the Breitbart bigots and KKK members that voted for him.
The klan wanted, at minimum, a confrontation with one of the extreme left groups and the extreme left group wanted exactly the same thing. Both sides in this thing are just two turds from the same pile.
How long do you think this whole thing would have lasted if there had been NO! media coverage(10 or 15 minutes tops before the skinheads headed to the nearest bar). If the leftist douche bags had ignored the klan rally and stayed home they would have had the laugh on the klan douche bags. This whole thing just threw red meat(or tofu depending on the news outlet) to the media so each side would be back in the news cycle for a few weeks spouting their respective manure. I would not be surprised if we later found out the leaders of both groups got together beforehand and planned the entire rhubarb complete with time allotted to allow the news services to get into the correct places to catch the action on camera.
I do not tweet and even if i did the last people I would follow would politicians or bureaucrats!
Is Obama more popular than Trump? I think that is irrelevant as Mr. Obama is now nothing but an unemployed disbarred lawyer on a massive government pension. The only thing that matters is that Trump was more popular than the Hillary where it mattered (the electoral college).
That is a weak ass take.
"People that actually work have little time for Twitter"
Uhh the President of the United States is on Twitter every single day LMAO.
It's pretty funny hearing the bullshit spewed from both sides. The rights always use the liberals dominate news media excuse. The lefts complain about how Trump got elected president, uhh could it be because Hillary is even more crooked than Trump.
I will say though Trump saved Twitter. Twitter was dying, but now more people are at least interested in looking at Twitter because of Trump.
I will agree with Sinclair's take on younger people being on social media.
"I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists"
Finally something I can agree on with David Duke. I'm sure Steve Bannon would agree, too.
We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Lets come together as one!
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Bottom line is both sides have shitty extremists that are drawn to these events, o don't think everyone on both sides there were all KKK Antifa BLM scumbags, but media can't sell anything if groups are allowed to peacefully demonstrate whatever the fuck it is on that day, and by police not seperating them violence was bound to happen and it is fucking stupid and pointless no one ever wins these things, and doesn't do anything but push people further away and has no henefit to our country.
Do you see any pattern, @IME?
I didn't start the thread and the answer to @FishStix's initial question is obvious: Trump's initial response was incredibly tone-deaf.
I am not supporting anyone I think they are all bad, and it is a tragedy that someone was killed but these confrontations have been escalating for months, and it is stupid.
As far as popularity of Obama versus Trump, Trump goes around pissing off different groups at different times without even appearing to seem to realize it. Obama as person seems more like able but I myself didn't like his policies.
Recent example, many people were fully invested in the stock market and Trump sounded like North Korea's leader getting ready to start a nuclear war. If they sold after the sell off, they lost a lot of money due to Trump. Obama didn't do such stupid stuff. I now expect a war with North Korea after all the rhetoric. If Kim doesn't make it easy by launching missiles at Guam, they could evacuate Seoul South Korea and get Kim thinking we are going to strike making him strike first. Sounds sneaky but if that's what it takes to keep China on the sidelines, I thought I would throw it out there.
I didn't seriously consider buying survival food while Obama was president but I do understand Obama helped let North Korea develop nuclear tech from what I read if it's not fake news. Russia likely supplied engine tech for the missiles.
As far as the violence here, just stupid in my opinion. I feel sorry for the victims.
Of course I expect Trump to be criticized by the media. That's all the media have done since before he was elected. He didn't exactly side with the media. I just hope when we go to war, it's not too bad.
"I have to say that both sides of this protest got exactly what they set out to get!"
Oh really? Ok.
Well, a man murdered a woman by maliciously driving his car into her... the media didn't do that, the racist piece of shit did. How the fuck can you argue otherwise and still take yourself seriously?
And Trump only just today called out the racist groups; he knew he had to, partly because Pence is clearly grooming himself to run in 2020 so he spoke out about it. Trump followed.
Let's not be idiots here. You get what you pay for. That's why Trump's cheap ass got bought out. When you pay for people like Trump, this is exactly what you get. Ya get what ya paid for.
Buyers' remorse?
Oops ya caught me.
I couldn't care less about all the confederate statues either. I think most don't either but some care a lot apparently. Not trying to defend any of the people involved in crimes. I'm just wondering if we got the whole story. I did see a video clip of some protestor hitting the guys car in the back with a baseball bat supposedly before he stepped on the gas. I'm not sure what most people would do if someone came up behind their car and hit it with a baseball bat. Seems like an obvious hate crime in the reported news but I have a doubt that maybe he feared for his life after seeing a video not shown on the news. Just saying if I was part of the jury and had to way evidence fairly.
I'd probably agree hate crime since why was he driving slowly towards the crowded street anyway? He should have let his car get destroyed rather than stepping on the gas. Not trying to defend what he did, just wondering if his intent was really evil or not. The video I saw might have been fake. Not sure.
My internet went down again. Lousy service in my area.
It's tragic that someone died, but here's the irony: The cock-sucker who hates blacks is suddenly going to be "dating" some black men in prison. I recommend soap on a rope and a lot of KY for this guy.
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Hey, @SJG is a little detached from reality, but he went nuts in a rather pleasant way. Just please don't compare me to @GammaNut or @TiredArgument, both of whom are repulsive bigots. And don't think for a second that @SJG's making out with AMP workers is any more goofy than @Smith falling in love with a prostitute and writing erotic literature.
Another thing missing from the thread: It took two days of criticism for Trump to finally condemn the KKK, but only 45 minutes to start trolling the CEO of Merck (who happens to be black) after that CEO withdrew from Trump's advisory council in protest. The timing shows pretty clearly what Trump is really thinking.
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Now that's truly offensive.
I think you love doing this, muchbthe same as a juvenile loves pre-teen vagina.
I wouldn't use social media stats as a *sole* indicator of popularity.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/p…
Obama's tweet about Charlottesville is the second most liked tweet in the history of Twitter. I think Obama is much more liked than some of you would like to believe.
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Probably the most interesting thing you've ever posted, @FisthStix.
Obama has always been known to be an eloquent speaker and he has the knack of saying the right thing at the right time. In other words, he's the polar opposite of that dipshit in office now.
That's one viewpoint. Another way to look at it is that Obama is a bullshit artist and an empty suit who left this country more divided, and weaker, than he found it. He said pretty words while the world sank into chaos. Syria, Libya, and North Korea exploded on his watch. Iran, China, and Russia expanded their influence. Race relations got much worse. The economy crawled along. Other than that, he was a great President.
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The recovery of the economy after 2008 was remarkable. You could probably give a lot of the credit to brilliant federal reserve policy (from Republican Ben Bernacke), but a lot of credit also goes to Obama and Congress for getting a stimulus package through.
The stimulus, rather than being spent on infrastructure and jobs, went to pay for local and state deficits and democratic allies. That's one of the reasons the recovery was so anemic.
The only thing that propped the economy up was keeping the Fed lending rates near zero for the entirety of Obama's presidency. Obama had nothing to do with this, but it helped him get reelected.
Trump causes more damage to American retail investors by nuking our retirement accounts with his words as the leader of the most powerful country in the world than ol Kim has ever done because no one thought he was a serious threat.
Probably just a matter of time before we are in another war. That's the bad part about electing a Republican, we seem to end up in more wars. However if aliens put us here to become warriors like in one Twilight episode instead of peace lovers, we might not get executed by our Alien masters when they return. Despite recent news to the contrary, I do expect us to be in a war with North Korea sooner rather than later. We have 2 hot heads in office in 2 different countries even though Trump claims he never wanted us to go to war in Iraq, he's saying similar words about NK. History repeats. However I hope not too much. The last time the US fought NK it ended in a stalemate with a lot of dead people. Those million or so solders in the NK army probably won't just surrender peacefully if they have been trained to fight to the death. I heard North Koreans were taught horror stories about how Americans are. Like during the last war, American solders cut off the flesh from North Koreans and then they ate it. They have been taught to hate us since they were little kids. If this is true, they aren't going to be waving white flags like the Iraqis did during the Persian gulf war.
Trump gives the military orders to destroy ISIS, and the freedom to do it without Whitehouse interference. They kill thousands of ISIS terrorists in Mosul and Raqqa, bringing ISIS to the brink of extinction. Trump is an idiot ! He's insane !
The same pattern continues for the economy. Obama controls the economy with oppressive regulation and GDP barely budges for 8 years. Trump eliminates regulation and consumer confidence surges and the stock market hits all time highs. Obama is steady ! Trump is in chaos !
Obama sends $150 Billion to Iran, including $4 B in cash. In return, Iran promises it won't develop a nuclear weapon for at least 8 years. Once it has the money, it goes back to funding terrorism and developing ICBM's that reach the US. It claims that the US has violated the agreement and says it may restart its nuclear research. Trump looks for a way to use sanctions to stop the renewed nuclear research. Obama is a great peacemaker ! Trump is a Nazi war monger !
Obama made it clear he would not intervene to stop foreign aggession. Russia seized parts of Georgia, Ukraine, and supported Syria and its gas attacks. China built artificial islands and claimed the vital South China Sea. North Korea built nuclear weapons and developed ICBMs. Trump has now made it clear that further Russian or Chinese expansion will be met with severe sanctions. We've passed a UN resolution imposing sanctions equal to one third of their economy on North Korea, with the support of Russia and China.
Obama kept us safe ! Trump wants to get us in a nuclear war ! He's crazy and unstable !
Trump is cleaning up Obama's mess, step by step. The only argument Obama's supporters have is name calling.
Trump condemned racism, declaring we should all be treated equally and fairly. He condemned the neo-nazis in Charlottesville but also condemned the Anti-Fa protestors who brought weapons and caused violence.
Obama is so wise, knowing which race is evil and which races are victims ! Trump is a racist, because he says we are all equal and deserve equal treatment ! Up is down ! Darkness is light !
Yes, I'm highly educated and widely read. I also have a lot of life experience.
If you disagree with the points I've made, feel free to explain what I've gotten wrong. I enjoy a good debate on the facts. I'll stay civil.
Or, you can just call me some names. That requires less work.
The rise of racist, birther, bigot like Trump is a backlash against our first AA president. The fear of guys like @Mark94, against losing white majority in this country, is almost palpable. That's why Charlottesville and Trump's comments are getting so much attention
Another well reasoned argument.
this idiot is becoming a national embarrassment.
This is some world class debating skill. Yale ? Princeton ?
Classic.
On May 18th, 2015 in this thread, https://www.tuscl.net/?page=post&id=3486… Dougster questioned your previous incarnation "Josh43" regarding why are you here posting on a strip club website.
Quote* "Don't understand this guy. First of all it seems pretty clearly that his main, er, only motivation in being here is to argue for the Democratic party line. I mean I don't see ANY posts by him discussing strippers or strip clubs at all. NO reviews. Absolutely zero evidence, not even an affirmative statement by him, that he even visits strip clubs at all. No opinion on matters related to strip clubs.
Okay, cool. So he's a family man and Democratic fanatic so doesn't bother with strip clubs. That's neat and each eo each their own. But how does a guy like that find his way to this site in the first place?
Also what name would give you to a person who comes to a strip club discussion site, ONLY (and I do mean only, not even the slightest interest in strip clubs) to argue against the prevailing Libertarian views? And then when he does laced with emotional, polarizing rhetoric? Could it be a word that starts with a "tr" and ends in "ll"?" *end quote
The telling part of your answer was,
Quote* " I enjoy the discussions about current-events and politics more than the discussions about strip clubs. What makes TUSCL interesting is that there are folks from all different generations, different ethnicities, different political stripes, all in an UNMODERATED forum. The moderation by peer pressure works remarkable well --and if my posts are too political, I'll simply bow out. Your post mostly makes sense Dougster and this is not really the place for politics." *end quote
You promptly disappeared after that comment then reappeared 3 months later in your present incarnation and haven't skipped a beat in continuously promoting your leftwing agenda even though you claim to be a moderate. It's presently 10AM EST so i doubt that the insomnia excuse will wash this time and the last time i checked this was still a strip club website.
I didn't start this thread and I haven't started a thread in 20 months. In fact I haven't started any political threads.
These days I spend most of my money on college girls I meet online. By and large they're more attractive, reliable, and accomplished than what you get in a strip club. To each his own. I still go to strip clubs, but it's just to relax and I'm rarely looking for sex.
As I said in your quote, TUSCL can be an interesting place because it attracts men from all sorts of demographic backgrounds. I'm probably here to stay, and if @founder tells me there should be no political discussions, then I'll stop. In the meantime, you should just put me on ignore.
Did I answer your questions @OSU?
We'll be lucky if they can muster enough support to get the debt limit raised. The democrats should have quickly eliminated that before voting for health care several years ago. I think it's stupid to debate on whether or not we as a country are going to default on our debt every 2 years.
Mark94 why don't you read an academic textbook?
Why don't you fall on a knife?
Crazy ass simple minded motherfucker.
Another cogent argument from the left. How can I argue with brilliance like this ?
Did you see any questions there professor even one question? I don't see where I asked you any questions I was just making an observation, an accurate observation I might add, contrary to what you post here.
Quote "I hardly pay any attention to you, @OSU, because you're just a boring."
I'm just "a boring"? Lol* is that your straight off the boat Italian impersonation?
*No disrespect intended towards our Italian members as I can see them being insulted that I compared them to the professor but that's the kind of incomplete English I expect from a new immigrant not an esteemed educator but then again it does explain why we have a whole generation of aimless uneducated pupils.* Oh and I am so heart broken that you hardly pay attention to me, please continue.
Quote "The whole notion that I'm radical lefty is just ridiculous."
Spin it anyway you want to professor, that comment holds as much water as most of your other comments, none.
BTW, excuse me for taking some time to respond, I don't sit here waiting to post as others are prone to do. I actually have a job and other things that are more important, hence my random *no pun intended* occasional posting history throughout my history as a member here.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politics/o…
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Truth be told, the sentence was originally "just a boring idiot," but I did backtrack to tone it down.
I wonder how many many hours it took you to track down some post that was 2.5 yrs old? What a fucking weirdo.
Go fuck yourself @OSU, you mindless idiot!
Real classy of you to take a teaching job with the express intention of getting laid. That says much more about you and the sorry state of our education system than any study available. Your penchant for attacking JS69 because he pursues younger chicks is no different than what you do except he pays them and writes about it here whereas you use your position as mentor/teacher to take advantage of them and mention it now as a means to justify your supposed superiority to guys that visit strip clubs but the fact is that you're a bigger dirtbag than any strip club patron where things are up front, you instead prey on your students. You're a real classy guy!
Lastly as has previously been mentioned when most of you leftist liberals come up short in responding to valid point you revert to insults and name calling. You are in fact the poster boy for weak minded liberals everywhere! Lol
You're welcome to respond trying to justify how superior you think you are and throw out some more of your 5th grade insults because you've once again been exposed but i've had my say here and none of your excuses will present you in a better light.
Goodbye for now, troll.
Anyway, what kind of "outing" does this represent, and who in the world could possibly care to dig up a thread that's 2.5 years old? Maybe the link was sent by one of our hardest of hard-core chickenshit Randoids? "The tyranny of taxation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
LOL, what a fucking idiot.
Anyway, I am quite worried by Trump's response. I can't decide if it's just because he is afraid of losing the rightest of the right, or if it's something more sinister. He actually wants to see violence grow as some kind of plot to become Fuhrer.
(Also, people have been conjecturing for a long time that I am txtittyfag. Not true. I do like most of the guy's work, but there are key difference: He is quite conservative, maybe even Libertarian, while I am just a boring ol' moderate. Also there is quite a symmetric difference if you look at the set of people on here we like and dislike.
As juice would say: Just thank about it.)
Also @OSU, I may have to reconsider stating that you went to a crappy state school. After thinking about it, I have to admit that Ohio State has a pretty good football team.
And @Tx, I can explain that wave-particle duality to you sometime since I have a lot of experience teaching ditsy undergrads. It's strictly sex-for-grades for pretty female students; in your case it's payment in advance, Paypal only.
...whereas about 97% of TUSCLers approve.
Cover of the most recent ultra- left-wing rag, "The Economist"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHb4A6gXcAAK…
SJG
But Economist is still economically conservative.
SJG
I like dealing with facts instead of bs though and don't like long meetings. I once thought about getting into student politics and couldn't stand the 2 hour long meeting.