I'm about 50, and I can remember 15¢ candy bars at the gas stations as a kid. Nowadays a dollar won't even cover that! So I usually hold out $2 or sometimes $3. I'm not a big spender generally though and usually only carry about $150 into a club.
It really depends on the girl. Some of them have an effect that makes half the PL's in the club take a seat at the stage. In those situations, you may have to get involved in a tipping war, and even then it is no guarantee they will come see you when they get off stage.
With the ones that don't draw as much attention when they get on stage, $1 may be enough to get their attention. Still, it is better to tip $2-$5, or more, if you want to send the message that you are interested.
The stage thing does not do that much for me - I like to focus on good-mileage dances and thus prefer to save my PL-funds for that - thus I stage-tip sparingly and usually to let the dancer know of my interest in her and thus tip her about 4 or 5 bucks sorta to let her know I'm interested in her.
In the rare-occasions I may sit stage-side I'll tip 2 sometimes 3 bucks - and in clubs w/ a tip-parade then just a buck to get them out of my hair if they are not my type but I'm feeling generous that day/moment
I remember when a burger at McDonald's was 25 cents but if I tip a dancer on stage at all, it is still $1. Money is not made on the stage. That is only for advertising their wares. Half the girls at Follies never get up on the stage and tip the DJ an extra $10.
Sounds like most of you are similar in mind.
$1 "I was not rude enough to leave while you perform"
$2 "You're OK, I'm kind of interested"
$3+ "I'm keeping my eye out for you later"
At least here in Phoenix, never had an issue with tipping a dancer a buck just get her attention that I want to spend more. It's a rare girl who doesn't stop by my table after I have politely asked her to do so. If she doesn't, I open my notepad on my phone and jot down a reminder to myself for later visits.
I really don't care if I get 1, or 10. The stage is where I display my confidence and sensuality, and connect with customers. I'm happy for the show of interest and chance to sell dances.
To all of you using amount to communicate, you are doing it wrong, use your words. Ask if she's available, or any amount is futile. Ask her to come see you after she's done with the stage.
I find tipping $1 is fine. It lets the dancer know you're interested so she will come see you after she gets off stage. If you tip her $20 and she's with a regular, she won't come over anyway.
houjack, I mostly agree. The communication in the amount itself is minor. Whatever the amount, it's an excuse speak and invite her to meet you offstage.
I do think the quality of the performance also matters. I can tip a few dollars more to someone that has a routine developed to synch with the song, and she can do some pole acrobatics.
I should clarify, I'm using amount because I'm watching stage shows to watch stage shows. I like stage shows. LDs are nice, but the limited funds blow by too quickly. (I need a new job). Otherwise I agree with Chili and $1 is still enough because often no one tips stage anymore. I also usually cap my stage spending at $21/girl otherwise I might as well get laps for the same price.
If it's a mandatory tip cause I'm at the tip rail but the dancer doesn't attract me in the slightest, then I tip $1. If I'm mildly interested, or she tries really hard, I'll make it $2-3. If the little head and Mary Jane have decided that we must have her, then you never know. The sky's the limit.
I used-to ask girls to come-over when I tipped them on-stage - rarely do that these days unless it's someone out of this world - I feel me tipping them is enough to let them know I'm interested in-her o/w why would I being going thru the effort to get up and tip-them specifically - I rather her take the initiative of coming to me for dances; similar to sitting-back waiting for dances to approach-you vs chasing after-them - I have no-problems approaching dancers and asking for dances but still prefer for them to initiate-it (makes me think they are interested in giving me dances vs doing-so b/c I asked them-to) - by default I assume a dancer that takes the initiative will perhaps give me better-dances but that correlation is far from 100% (if there's any correlation at all).
I'm into variety so there's rarely a dancer I just gotta-have way-above all others - if that is the case then I tend to be more proactive - also tend to be more proactive the harder-up I may be that particular visit.
No amount is "the winning ticket" - but to me a single-buck comes across as tipping just to tip (like a formality) vs a few bucks seems more like "I'm digging you"; but again you can make it rain a-hundred and the bitch makes a beeline for the dressing-room and never comes by your table - like anything else w.r.t. SCing; it comes down to a matter of PL-preference.
My impression was that $1 per song was mandatory, and therefore I've never tipped more than that. I usually just ask the dancer to come see me later if I'm interested in her, which has usually worked. Now that I know a big tip is code for, "I want dances," I might have to try that.
I can't see "showing your hand" early with a large tip as being effective, unless you really do have a gangsta wad of cash and don't mind using it. You're telegraphing to her that money is no impediment for you. A fiver is enough of an attention-getter. Beyond that strikes me as overkill.
Back when I was a newbie I thought the amount would signify intent, and that the dancer would come see whoever was tipping top dollar. Wrong.
I remember one time I tipped a girl a twenty, went back to my seat, and waited. I had the winning bid. Once she finished her set she went to who she was with before her set. I was like "oh yeah, the dancers comes back to me after stage when I'm with them too."
Bj99 wrote: "if I get tipped a 20, I consider that a purchased dance. I tell the customer he's already bought it if he wants it." What a wonderful attitude! Are you sure you're a stripper?
I tipped $1 per dance (so $2-3 per dancer) for close to 20 years. When I realized a few years ago how little a dollar is worth compared to its value in the early 90s, I started tipping $2 at a time. But it's also true that the way to get a stripper to visit you and do dances or a VIP for you is to *ask* her. That almost always works, especially on the relatively slow day shifts that I prefer.
Nowadays every dancer gets at least $1 per song when I'm sitting at the stage and the ones I like get at least $2 per song: one per side of her thong or one per ass cheek, as the case may be :)
agree the amount matters little if she's preoccupied. if it's just a tip because you're sitting at the stage $1 is very minimal. I only tip a single dollar if I'm not at all interested(or leave the stage if she's that bad). if you genuinely like the stage routine I say tip at least $3 or $4.
I usually tip 3 sometimes 2. The amount definitely matters to a point. If she won't come over for a ten she most likely won't come over for a twenty. So, the most I tip is ten and only than when I'm smitten.
Tipping at the rail is great because I have a chance to interact with all the dancers and I do not get pestered for dances like I would at a table. I think it is a blast to sit at the rail, tip and banter with the honeys.
Well, usually when guys do that it's in appreciation of my dancing and looks, but they insist they don't want a lap dance bc they think they are weird, or something like that, so it's a good way to get someone who is already into me, started on dances. Same as when a friend of theirs gets them one, ab half of those guys but more themselves.
Years ago I was getting a set of lap dances from a favorite. She was called to the stage mid set and as she was dashing to get on stage she said, "I trust you to pay me for our dances when I'm done." I was both honored and taken aback by her analysis of me. I watched her first song on stage from afar. Not many guys tipping her. Midway through the second song, I sat at the stage and gave here all the Jacksons due her for our lap time. She played it up like I was a huge tipper and made the rest of the stingy bastards at the stage feel like chumps. Just one of those rare moments in the club!
I see stage tipping as more of an interaction than an exchange of $. If she interacts well, maybe flashing, etc, I will keep tipping. For the most part I stick with $2 or $1 if her interaction was uninspiring or she didn't look like how I thought she would once she was up close.
Awhile back a Follies dancer was sitting with me when the DJ announced her to be next on stage. She asked me to tip her because she felt stupid being up there with no one tipping her. I did. :)
I started tipping two at a time when I realized how little one dollar is worth compared to 20 years ago as well. I figure some dancers think you are cheap if you only tip one. My salary is more than double from 20 years ago.
Except in really extreme cases, on stage is not where a dancer is going to make money. Giving private dances is where she will make money.
Stage tipping is just a way of saying thank you for being sexy and dancing on stage for all of us. If the dancer is decent looking and interacts well with the audience I'll tip her, but only a buck. Unless I am sitting at the bar, where I'll tip a dancer $1 for each song on stage, the only time I usually tip more is if she is someone I haven't met before who interests me a lot. Then I might tip her multiple times while on stage and ask her to stop by, especially if she is very busy and hard to get her attention.
I'll tip up to $5 if the girl's working the stage well and piques my interest for a lapper; I just make sure to tell her that I want her to join me. I've tipped more, but it never made the girl hurry to my table any more quickly. Like LDK, I tipped $20 to a girl I was deeply, if fleetingly, in love with and she never came by the rest of the night.
For the most part I'll tip $1. Usually it's for a new dancer that I want a closer look at to see if I want a dance from her. If it's someone I want a dance from I might tip a couple bucks, but for sure will let them know I want a dance from them. More tip certainly doesn't guarantee a visit after their turn on the stage.
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It really depends on the girl. Some of them have an effect that makes half the PL's in the club take a seat at the stage. In those situations, you may have to get involved in a tipping war, and even then it is no guarantee they will come see you when they get off stage.
With the ones that don't draw as much attention when they get on stage, $1 may be enough to get their attention. Still, it is better to tip $2-$5, or more, if you want to send the message that you are interested.
In the rare-occasions I may sit stage-side I'll tip 2 sometimes 3 bucks - and in clubs w/ a tip-parade then just a buck to get them out of my hair if they are not my type but I'm feeling generous that day/moment
$1 "I was not rude enough to leave while you perform"
$2 "You're OK, I'm kind of interested"
$3+ "I'm keeping my eye out for you later"
CP
The amount is practically meaningless.
I do think the quality of the performance also matters. I can tip a few dollars more to someone that has a routine developed to synch with the song, and she can do some pole acrobatics.
CP
I'm into variety so there's rarely a dancer I just gotta-have way-above all others - if that is the case then I tend to be more proactive - also tend to be more proactive the harder-up I may be that particular visit.
No amount is "the winning ticket" - but to me a single-buck comes across as tipping just to tip (like a formality) vs a few bucks seems more like "I'm digging you"; but again you can make it rain a-hundred and the bitch makes a beeline for the dressing-room and never comes by your table - like anything else w.r.t. SCing; it comes down to a matter of PL-preference.
I remember one time I tipped a girl a twenty, went back to my seat, and waited. I had the winning bid. Once she finished her set she went to who she was with before her set. I was like "oh yeah, the dancers comes back to me after stage when I'm with them too."
Always ask if she's available, that is my point.
Nowadays every dancer gets at least $1 per song when I'm sitting at the stage and the ones I like get at least $2 per song: one per side of her thong or one per ass cheek, as the case may be :)
Tipping at the rail is great because I have a chance to interact with all the dancers and I do not get pestered for dances like I would at a table. I think it is a blast to sit at the rail, tip and banter with the honeys.
Stage tipping is just a way of saying thank you for being sexy and dancing on stage for all of us. If the dancer is decent looking and interacts well with the audience I'll tip her, but only a buck. Unless I am sitting at the bar, where I'll tip a dancer $1 for each song on stage, the only time I usually tip more is if she is someone I haven't met before who interests me a lot. Then I might tip her multiple times while on stage and ask her to stop by, especially if she is very busy and hard to get her attention.