Club features as listed on TUSCL

Your missing something obvious )

Here is another. The club is designated as being Topless Dancers

Club Features:

* Topless Lap Dances
* Nude Lap Dances

Is it a topless club if the girls can dance nude?

LOL - yeah I have not seen a club where the girls are allowed to take their bottoms off but not their tops

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full bar means usually that has all main types of hard liquor from jack daniels to patron, but doesn't always have beer and never wine since wine isn't a hard liquor and more of something you find at a restaurant and not a bar. hope that helps clarify.

I just realized the obvious answer to my question. They are indeed topless if they are nude. What I meant was, if they can dande nude then they are more than topless.

*dance

Yeah - nude + topless is kinda redundant - if they are nude you'd think they'd be topless

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The requirements for a "full bar" are actually sort of low. "Full" makes it sound like it might have everything, but it just means it has the main types of liquor, not necessarily anything high shelf, plus mixers, and chasers. Enough to make a lot of things, but not everything. Often if they have beer, it's only a few types, and if they have wine, sometimes its as little as 1-2 bottles (one might be white zin, which most oenophiles won't touch). A full bar doesn't have to have obscure stuff to be called a full bar. I guess "competent bar" would be more correct.

How many varieties of juice does the typical juice bar have?

Maybe "Beer and Wine Only" and "Topless Only" would be less ambiguous designations.

Topless most likely refers to dances on the stage and the other references to private. In topless clubs here you have the option of nude or topless private dances.

They should have a place to identify if they employ pee trolls.

I don't know about that, skibum. I have never been to a club with nude lap dances which only had topless stage dancing.

^^^ DandyDan, all clubs in Detroit are like that.

That's been a peeve of mine for a while. I try to go in and fix the ones for clubs I frequent, but some of them keep getting changed back. For a while, they added "Only" to the designations and that was nice, but that too was reverted.

I think ideally some of them would be grouped so you could only pick one. But, I guess I can understand how it might be useful to have multiple options for stuff like lap dances. Some places offer both nude and topless lap dances at different price points, but I guess even if a place offered nude lap dances there wouldn't be a problem getting a topless one.

DandyDan, we have places with topless stage dancing and nude private dances. There aren't many Topless joints around here, but I can think of two in Pompano that had topless/pasties rules out front but offered nude private dances in booths/rooms. Porthole & Flavors.

My preference is what a club is called should be based on what the stage dances are. Topless clubs have topless stage dancing and nude clubs have nude stage dancing. What the Laps or champagne rooms could be a bullet point farther down the list. I think that fits more with historical context but I understand most hardcore PLs are interested in private dances or sex more than what's on display on stage.

"... we have places with topless stage dancing and nude private dances. There aren't many Topless joints around here ..."

I think is the other way around - in S. FL it's nude stage dancing w/ topless lap-dances where the girl has to keep on her g-string for lap-dances - only when extras are done will the dancer get full-nude during a "dance" o/w lap-dances are topless w/ some rare exceptions

Usually, it is the other way around Papi, but for example at Porthole most girls will do nude dances but they're topless out front. Similar down the street at 4-Play, and even at Flavors when it was open. Paper Moon in Stuart was the same way on and off.