Need Advice on Avoiding OTC Strippers Who Are Lousy In Bed

^^^ LOL.. that was so funny...

But back to the point...There's no advice I can give. It's a 'crap shoot' as I think you guys say, sometimes you'll get a double six and sometimes you'll 'seven out'.

I agree with the slowing down and just working on building that connect, sexual tension and mutual seduction with highly sexulized front room activities and VIP House Play.

If you don't feel any connection the sex will be terrible between you guys.

Your looking to match chemistry. The closer the better the sex.

You need to allow yourself to get caught up and infaxuwated with her. This alone will make the sex amazing

Just be polite and decline

Is there potential for ITC extras at the clubs you frequent?

I've lost count of how many girls I've gone OTC with and, if there is a way to accurately gauge how they are going to perform before the main event, I haven't found it. Some girls act one way ITC and become something else altogether OTC, so initial ITC interactions are often not a reliable barometer for OTC performance.

One exception to this, at least for me, is that any girl who seems uptight ITC is unlikely to suddenly loosen up OTC. Also, I have enjoyed OTC far less with girls in the 21-22 year old range than I have with girls with a few more years under the belt. But beyond these, IME it is a crap shoot. I tend to repeat with the ones that I like and avoid the ones who perform poorly the first time. Not really much more to be done IMO.

IME, the best experiences with any woman come after there are periods of silence like she is waiting for me to do something or content to just be present with me rather than overacting how turned on she is because of whatever her goal is right then. It feels like you're vibing with her so well that talking isn't necessary and she doesn't have to be in full-on saleswoman mode.

BigTezzy, savvy question! The clubs I've recently frequented have fewer VIP options. But, even when VIP is available there are so many hot chicks willing to fuck for money OTC, I've just been jumping to OTC right away as if it's a game of keeping score. I'm really after quality, very satisfying relationships, not slam bam thank you mams.

Looking back to my initial more satisfying OTC outings, they were freebies because I let the relationships and passion build. Haven't pulled off a freebie in quite a while during this recent slam bam run. As much as some poo poo non-sex OTC, I'm beginning to like the idea of a real date that naturally leads to sex because there's mutual chemistry. Kinda back to basics. LOL!

Thanks Rick! Agree with using uptightness ITC as a key barometer.

It's a crapshoot as has been mentioned, the strip club biz is not known for outstanding customer service and just like many PLs are into wham bam thank you maam, so are many dancers except dancers just care about getting paid and PLs about nutting, in general.

Thus one can assume the more one OTCs and the more one chases after it instead of it happening more organically, for lack of a better word, the more one chases OTC the more possibilities of of finding duds.

Thus it could be that with more OTC frequency the more duds you will find and also th higher you will be setting the bar since you've been there done that a lot - perhaps scaling back and going for quality vs quantity but even then one may feel they gotta swing the bat more often b/c one does not know who's who - but still perhaps slowing down may get you better results if the current pace/method is not yielding the results you want.

I find most satisfying when you have a low mileage girl that you have some sort of friendship with. Like I have stated here before I don't really do straight P4P, and tend to see the same few over again, if you are going for just OTC or ITC I think it will generally be nothing more than a crap shoot.

Have sexy with them ITC before you ask about OTC.

^ but then he's still blowing a significant amount of $$$ if they are duds - I assume he pays ITC roughly equal to OTC considering ITC room-charges which can be significant in many a club

There's no foolproof way. If she sucks the first time, then don't get with her again, you take that L that time, but you don't take future L's with her.

@Papi_Chulo: Entirely true, but he'll avoid wasting the time spent arranging the OTC, along with the not inconsiderable factor of your typical stripper's flakiness in answering and showing up.

^ true

@ppwh's experience/observation is right in line with mine. I've been fortunate as well to connect with an amazing OTC situation....don't know that I would call it SB exactly but has been nice.

I think it's life. There are no guarantees on what you can get from any dancer or civi woman in bed. But I would agree, chemistry with a woman itc can lead to better sexual satisfaction otc.

Ditch her.

I would guess it's not much different than how you'd decide with any other girl who to try and bag. Chemistry is a thing. If it's not there, no amount of money or foreplay or lube is going to fix that.

I'm not an OTC guy, but I would imagine that doing OTC with someone purely based on looks or availability wouldn't amount to much more than a lazy and expensive way to masturbate. If there is chemistry however, the odds would be that you would enjoy the escapade. I guess my thought is that being a bit discerning and not just taking what's available ups the odds considerably.