I had a discussion with a dancer today. She told me she supported her family (the requisite deadbeat boyfriend plus their kid) by working one or two day shifts a week at Follies.I said that didn't seem like it would be enough money to get by. She countered with the fact that she had already done 4 VIP's. This was at 3:30 PM, 2.5 hours into her shift. If we just call that 1/3 of her shift, that's 12 VIP's in 8 hours. That's a new sausage every 40 minutes.
There are girls at Follies that have guys figuratively waiting in line for VIP. They seem to be headed to VIP every half hour or so. They are the exception, but they are definitely there. But I do not know if they can keep up that pace all shift.
I do believe that the infamous Gwen at the Columbia Platinum Plus was doing 6 or 7 guys during a shift. I once overheard her tell a guy that there were 2 ahead of him. She wasn't supporting a BF or kid. Just a Heroine habit.
It depend on how long she takes per guy. I have seen dancers in extras clubs have a line up of customers waiting. One gal I tried recently, before she got to me, did five consecutive customers in less than an hour, and she finished me off in less than ten minutes.
@rl27 - yeah I have either noticed or experienced a few of these cum-as-fast-as-you-can extras girls. I avoid them because I would rather have a longer GFE. But yes, I have seen one at Follies finish VIP after VIP in 10 minutes or less. She was back in there with the next guy in 5-10 minutes. Sometimes she does not even bother to get dressed between VIP's. So that is 3+ per hour at least for a short burst (pun intended). I tried her once but it was so rushed it was not enjoyable (yes, there is bad sex).
I'd say it's plausible but somewhat unlikely. Still...
Say she's doing a third of what you think, $500 a shift. Maybe a grand a week, mostly in cash and tax free. Add in whatever they get from the government and that's not bad.
I was at Follies once trying to see one of my favorites. I spotted her as she was going into VIP with a guy, so I kept an eye out. She came out, went to back room for a couple minutes, came back out on floor and headed right for some other guy, grabbed his hand and headed to VIP.
I watched this cycle repeat a total of 5 times before I decided I was done waiting on her.
I had been getting dances from some girl I'd never seen before, and she was chatting up VIP so I decided to go with her. Me and my new girl ended up standing next to busy girl and guy #6 waiting in line for VIP. She said hi and apologized for being so busy.
Next time I was in we managed to hook up. It was a slower day and she actually had time to sit and have a drink before we went to VIP. In VIP, after our fun, we sat and talked for another 30 mins or so. Low demand for VIP that day, so no one hassled us.
This girl is fine, asks a little more than the 100 starting point for the girl, which I gladly pay, especially since she's not a stickler about getting the money up front which means she knows she is going to perform well to get it.
@joc13 - we might be thinking of the same girl. Assuming she was in and out of VIP well before 30 minutes was up and that you were not waiting for hours for her, that sounds like 6 VIP's in about 2 hours, right?
Many younger folks in all walks of life consider the job what they do to make the money they need for life and that's it. If one shift a week pays the bills, why work two? Yeah, I know-- no concept of getting ahead. How many times have you heard a stripper say I need to make X more dollars to pay my ????? bill and I can go home early?
@gold see PM. I don't think so, cause mine would do the full 30 mins with each. Yes, I was there over 3 hours. I think I saw one end early, but the guy left the room first, so he was probably one of those guys that likes to but and get out.
@flagooner cause, like everyone else, they don't want to work any more than they have to. I'm a technology whore, and if one contract makes me enough to cover a couple months of expenses, you can bet I'll take a couple weeks off before I pick up my next one.
@gold you nailed it. And, this works in our favor when it comes to arranging OTC. If a girl says "I need X each week to pay my bills", and you can offer her X/2 or X/3 for an OTC then she can knock a shift a week off her schedule and be really happy when she's with you.
The numbers suggested are unlikely on a regular basis. The blow job queen is the hardest working extras girl that I know. She blows an average of 4-5 guys per shift, charging roughly double Follies prices.
I'm trying to figure out just which dancer this is. I doubt that I have been one of her customers because I rule out each dancer that I see go to VIP for my VIP choice. I don't do sloppy seconds.
I am there very early but I don't always do VIP. I'm fussy in my old age. Dancer quality has taken a big hit in the last year and therefor the number of VIPs I do has also nose dived. I was the first person in the door last Saturday and left at 3:45 having only gotten dances from 2 girls.
I was their Sunday looking for that old blond headed cheap bitch that gives good head. She usually has a young little red head spinner following her around. Is that her daughter ? Anyways yeah I had about $30 in beers and did a VIP with some Mexican chica $52 to house and $100 to the big breasted Cuban
Well this is certainly plausible but everyone has to realize just about all strippers exaggerate.
Think of it this way. An escort my setup an incall and see 8 guys in a 10 hour shift, a stripper could do the same inside a club.
Anything is possible in a club when it comes to PLs and their wallets. I've said before, a stripper in Vegas was telling me she cleared $21,000 in 19 days (after club fees) without giving a single blowjob. I'm not sure how many of those 19 days she worked and even she was shocked at that amount.
Side note - if the Follows stripper clears $3,000 a week working 2 shifts she's probably making over $100,000 a year probably more than enough to support her modest lifestyle.
Goldmonger, I know exactly what you are talking about, and I tend to avoid such dancers myself, however I occasionally find a really good the cum-as-fast gal. Usually, she's a well known and hot looking dancer. The one I mentioned had amazing skills and while I came fast, it didn't seem like I was rushed. She was mentioned quite often in several review sites, and was very popular for a reason.
When I find a gal like, I will her I see again and again, while she dances. Unfortunately, for every one line her, there are dozens more who are horrible, and those I see once and never again.
As Shai mentioned, a lot of dancers will exaggerate, and I would question if a dancer made $21K in 19 days now, but back around 2005 to 2009, I saw many dancers regularly make a lot of money just on stage.
One club I visited, one of the chains back in the early late 1990's and early 2000's, there was a main stage and 6 smaller satellite stages, and each dancer did songs on the main stage, and then would rote among three of the other stages, two songs each for a total of 8 songs every two hours. When not on stage they were either giving $5 table dances, on top of a short small coffee type table, or $10 table side dances, and $20 private area dances.
It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for a dancer to make several hundred dollars in tips every time they were on stage, and when not giving private dances, rotating among all the other tables making a lot of money just doing $5 table top dances on very shortly cut songs.
I miss clubs like that, not as much contact, but a lot of very hot eye candy to set the mood before heading out to a more laid back dive bar.
Just one point most of you are missing, sure there are a few girls that bank big bucks in a few places here and there, but the bragging by the girls that they consistently clear north of $750 a shift is just the opposite side of the coin in the I haven't made any money all day hustle. In the big bucks brag hustle, is my time is so valuable so if you aren't spending bucks I'm gonna move on. But that is all it really is a hustle.
^^^Not true @flagooner I met the sweetest most honest stripper I have ever met,the other night she told me how handsome I was and she was amazed at the size of my dick. She told me that I was different from all of the other guys she met working in the club, and offered to make me breakfast in bed the following morning, she also told me it was the truth and even though I thought it was a hustle I should trust her 1000%
@rl27 that sounds like the pre-mob Gold Club and Taj Mahal in Atlanta in late 80s early 90s.
The lack of mileage and extras in the club was no big deal cause we had plenty of good ole fashioned brothels where you could go in, sit in the front room and have a drink and chat up the available girls, and then when you had a chance to get comfortable pick a girl and head upstairs.
Thanks to the Internet, escorts are strictly by appt now, and not many of them take appts late enough to enjoy night shift fluffing followed by an appt. And, heaven help you, if you spend an evening building up a good set of blue balls planning on an appt later, only to have the escort cancel or no show.
Well - if there's a place where a dancer can pull a half-dozen or more VIPs in a shift, Follies would be it - combo of affordable VIP prices and a shit-ton of horny guys that can't get that same action in rarely any other ATL club - i.e. lots of suitors for an ambitious dancer
Playhouse in Burlington - the Dj announces how many dances it has been with a customer so he can't complain about a miscount. Some guys are back there for an hour or more at $30 for five minutes plus the tip. The highest count I've heard was 30 something. Other dances go for volume. A different customer every ten or fifteen minutes for their entire shift. A few of the ladies will have twenty or more customers in a shift.
@K - at Playhouse, the earnings are surely there. At Follies BJ or FS is almost always involved, so a new guy every 20 minutes is, um, quite impressive :-)
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Add in some dances and figure net 120 per VIP and that is well over 1500 per shift less tipout.
Say she's doing a third of what you think, $500 a shift. Maybe a grand a week, mostly in cash and tax free. Add in whatever they get from the government and that's not bad.
A. "Thanks, guys."
I would say it's very reasonable for a girl to service 6 guys in a shift
I was at Follies once trying to see one of my favorites. I spotted her as she was going into VIP with a guy, so I kept an eye out. She came out, went to back room for a couple minutes, came back out on floor and headed right for some other guy, grabbed his hand and headed to VIP.
I watched this cycle repeat a total of 5 times before I decided I was done waiting on her.
I had been getting dances from some girl I'd never seen before, and she was chatting up VIP so I decided to go with her. Me and my new girl ended up standing next to busy girl and guy #6 waiting in line for VIP. She said hi and apologized for being so busy.
Next time I was in we managed to hook up. It was a slower day and she actually had time to sit and have a drink before we went to VIP. In VIP, after our fun, we sat and talked for another 30 mins or so. Low demand for VIP that day, so no one hassled us.
This girl is fine, asks a little more than the 100 starting point for the girl, which I gladly pay, especially since she's not a stickler about getting the money up front which means she knows she is going to perform well to get it.
Depends on the girl. The real question is, can you handle finding out how much "business" your stripper handles?
@flagooner cause, like everyone else, they don't want to work any more than they have to. I'm a technology whore, and if one contract makes me enough to cover a couple months of expenses, you can bet I'll take a couple weeks off before I pick up my next one.
Think of it this way. An escort my setup an incall and see 8 guys in a 10 hour shift, a stripper could do the same inside a club.
Anything is possible in a club when it comes to PLs and their wallets. I've said before, a stripper in Vegas was telling me she cleared $21,000 in 19 days (after club fees) without giving a single blowjob. I'm not sure how many of those 19 days she worked and even she was shocked at that amount.
Side note - if the Follows stripper clears $3,000 a week working 2 shifts she's probably making over $100,000 a year probably more than enough to support her modest lifestyle.
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Each guy only got 2 minutes with her, though, so if you increased it to 10 minutes each, maybe only around 50 in an 8 hour shift.
When I find a gal like, I will her I see again and again, while she dances. Unfortunately, for every one line her, there are dozens more who are horrible, and those I see once and never again.
One club I visited, one of the chains back in the early late 1990's and early 2000's, there was a main stage and 6 smaller satellite stages, and each dancer did songs on the main stage, and then would rote among three of the other stages, two songs each for a total of 8 songs every two hours. When not on stage they were either giving $5 table dances, on top of a short small coffee type table, or $10 table side dances, and $20 private area dances.
It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for a dancer to make several hundred dollars in tips every time they were on stage, and when not giving private dances, rotating among all the other tables making a lot of money just doing $5 table top dances on very shortly cut songs.
I miss clubs like that, not as much contact, but a lot of very hot eye candy to set the mood before heading out to a more laid back dive bar.
The lack of mileage and extras in the club was no big deal cause we had plenty of good ole fashioned brothels where you could go in, sit in the front room and have a drink and chat up the available girls, and then when you had a chance to get comfortable pick a girl and head upstairs.
Thanks to the Internet, escorts are strictly by appt now, and not many of them take appts late enough to enjoy night shift fluffing followed by an appt. And, heaven help you, if you spend an evening building up a good set of blue balls planning on an appt later, only to have the escort cancel or no show.
Brilliant question!