Corvus, an interesting juxtaposition, golf versus strip clubs.
People golf for various reasons. For myself, I had always thought that beyond a point, letting women make you spend non-sexual time with them, is for chumps.
I don't like church events, or family picnics, or holiday events.
But people do some of these things, for their own reasons.
Probably a guy who only wants sexualized relations with women will be seen by most conservative people as a pervert and an object of pity.
For myself, I have been in strip clubs and Viet coffee shops, on holidays. Does this make my an object for pity? In some ways, and by most people's standards, yes it does. But I am building an organization of my own which will be for people who think more like me.
Golf sounds like male bonding. Ham Radio, Astronomy, teenagers and fantasy role playing games, model airplanes, military games?
Guys drinking at the Sunnyvale Brass Rail have girls there, so that they don't come across as gay.
This is an interesting subject area. Good thread.
SJG