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The clubs in my area are no-extras. I've had one dancer bring up extras on her own in several years of frequenting these places, and I've never had one bring up OtC on her own. Does that mean it's off the table, or are they just waiting for me to ask? Will I get slapped or thrown out if I broach this subject?
PS Yes, I don't have a lot of money. For the purposes of this question, assume this is not an issue.
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last commentYou won't get thrown out or slapped. Unless they are a newbie they have been propositioned for just about every thing. It comes with the job.
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Just ask you dumb fuck.
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you can do things in a strip club that you can't get away with elsewhere. One of those things is ask women for sex. They expect it and will not be surprised.
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If every guy who asked about extras got slapped or thrown out, then the average club would be empty on Saturday nights.
Once in a while, you may run into a lunatic / newbie dancer who might flip out over an extras request, but it's rare. Especially if you've spent some time time getting a sense of her drama quotient.
Also, don't be a dick about it.
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They will not be upset, as others have said, they get asked all the time.
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Ask them something vague, like "what's on the menu?"
Or maybe ask "what kind of dances do you do? Nice/tame? Or Naughty/dirty?"
Something along those lines. They've heard it all before. Just don't come out and say "How much to fuck your brains out in VIP?"
That one might get you slapped.
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That $100 is brining a hole in your pocket isn't it?
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"Burning"
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I used to think that a stripper would freak out, or get me kicked out, if I suggested extras or OTC. One thing I've learned from this board, and from lots of experience the past couple of years, is that they almost certainly won't freak out or even react negatively. Just ask -- they've heard it all before and won't be offended.
Actually, at my favorite extras club I usually don't even ask for particular activities in the VIP room any more. I just take a new girl for a test drive -- a $20 dance or two -- and then, if she's promising, take potluck in the VIP room. It almost always ends well, but it's kind of fun not to nail down all the details.
As for OTC, I almost never ask for it: it generally just lands in my lap -- and I am, to paraphrase gmd, old, fat, and balding (but charming). All 3 of my OTC girls since Dec 2015 broached the subject with me, either at the end of our first VIP (in the case of my ATF, whom I've now seen many many times OTC) or in a text after we've done a few lappers or a couple of VIPs -- when she needs money, of course.
For example, just last Friday I did a VIP with a young but veteran stripper. When she had completed a very nice CBJ at the 26-minute mark of our half hour, she asked me matter-of-factly if I ever played outside the club. She offered a 6-hour dinner date with two CBJs for $450. I remained noncommittal but will probably counter with $350 plus a $50 tip for a (2nd) job well done once i get to know her better.
Some conclusions:
Just ask, whether for extras or OTC -- she won't be offended.
Just because you have a sick doesn't mean you should be a sick.
Consider, at least sometimes, doing a VIP in an extras club with no particular services in mind. ONE she'll find a way to get you off, for a tip and for repeat business.
Once you've seen a girl from a given club OTC, and assuming that she lives to tell the tale (that sounded creepier than I intended), others at that club will make their availability for OTC known to you.
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Fortune favors the brave. ;)
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Correction in Conclusion #2: change "sick" to "dick" twice :) Damn you, autocorrect!
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Just grab yourself by the pussy and add a sack
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Sorry but a CBJ is a one and done deal. I have made the mistake of not asking upfront and my dick will just not cooperate and I wind up with an expensive HJ.
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@sc: I hear you -- at my age, a BBBJ is much preferable to a CBJ -- but some of my current VIP favorites won't do a BJ unless it's covered. In my case, a BBBJ essentially always does the trick, a CBJ often does, but a HJ usually doesn't.
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The worst you will get is an eyeroll and her walking away in disgust.
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@shadowcat yep, been there. Only twice in my life can I remember a CBJ being successful on me (going all the way back to when I was young). We need to compare notes . . . (But you probably already know any info I can offer)
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I would rather get a hand job or do it myself than a covered bj. I have a better chance of becoming allah that coming from a cbj. The extra benefit of a hand job is as the dancer makes sure you don't get any on her you can change the angle of your hips to make sure you hit her.
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It's funny. Just as many of you are amazed at the ability of some of us to cum (often!) just from lap dances, I'm amazed at the ability of some of you to cum consistently from handies. I tell strippers who try to turn a BJ into a HJ (which just happened to me recently at Dollie's in WP): "No, I can do that myself. I asked for a blowjob, not a handjob!"
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Treat the girl like you just met her at a party. Front room makeout session. Buying dances is for chumps.
SJG
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Count me in also as someone who prefers a HJ to CBJ. I have never gotten a CBJ, and I don't plan on getting one.
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^^^^^ I concur with you. Also, that way you can more easily be DFKing and sucking on her tits.
When she is ready she might escalate to BBBJ, as a prelude to FS.
SJG
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I thought her prelude to FS was falling asleep.
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Asleep is just for making re-entries, never for the first round. Its just a good method of waking her up. Not doing more than just attaining entry, until she awakens. They always love it. But sometimes they want to go to the bathroom first. Then they come back and are raring to go.
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Flagooner, get it right man. Sheesh. As SJG made it very clear, it is also important to hold her wrists. You know, in order to "calm" her. If we are going to start referencing SJG's system for getting laid, it is important that we be accurate. ;)
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She will wake up startled. And it is best to hold her wrists while having some soothing words ready. But very quickly she will get right into it, unless she wants to go to the bathroom first. They love it. But it is for additional rounds, always after there had been an earlier round.
I mean, why use words or jabs to awaken her.
But getting in without waking her is not that easy. Need to think it through and do it with a minimum of other movement or bed bouncing.
Not really a system for getting laid, more a system for making a girl feel like she belongs to you. This comes right across in her morning after continence.
SJG
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That's kinda' creepy dude. Not even so much the part about trying to get some in the middle of the night, but about the wrist holding and "soothing words." Also, that middle of the night stuff is usually reserved for long standing relationships, not just any girl who you've happened to hit one time. Idk.
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Depends on the club, you could get escorted out asking for a BJ in some clubs.
The other alternative is that the dancer may tell all her friends you asked for a BJ and you won't get any dances the rest of the night. These are probably the stripper web lines of what happens. Depends on the club and what is ok to ask.
In some clubs, the dancer might tell another dancer who can hook you up if she doesn't think you are undercover.
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So you've been going for years without asking and you're worried about getting thrown out one time? They usually let you in on another night unless you ticked them off.
You can ask lead in questions as well. I know that. One time I was a bit vague and the girl thought I wanted to date her. She was ok with dating. Told me she didn't have a boyfriend right now. I was thinking date? No one ever said they wanted to date. What is wrong with her?
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Correction, @rickdugan: the sleepy-time rapist isn't "kinda creepy" . . . he's creepy as fuck . . . and he's not even aware of how creepy he sounds!
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Rick Dugan and MrDeuce, have either of you guys actually ever slept with a woman?
SJG
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My finesse game must be strong in comparison to what you all are dishing out. You can a nonstripper (college girl, out & about, etc) to fuck your brains for half what you all paying. Smh.
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Sleepy time rapist, you could only dream to have the life that I've lived. An attractive wife with 3 beautiful kids and a bachelor life before that where I sucked and fucked my way along southeastern CT (thank you Yahoo Romance chat). You by comparison come across as way too weird to get laid very often. Just sayin'.
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Rick Dugan, your life sounds like shit to me. For one thing you are legally shackled to a woman whom you obviously have very little relationship to, just lies and deception. Though your life is shit, it is no accident. It starts with your own dishonesty.
With the last guy who was going on bragging to me and his family, I played a very large role in getting him convicted and put in San Quentin.
No, I would never for one minute want to live the life you do.
I am tied down here now. For the future, if you wife ever has need for a process server, she need look no further than I.
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