Does tipping non-strippers really matter?

Tipping is supposed to be an optional gesture for exceptional performance or service, not an entitlement. Therefore I only tip the dancers, waitresses, bartenders, and chefs if there is a menu or buffet.

I think it's more about the fact all staff, dancers included expect and want pl's to part with their hard earned cash just because it's a strip club.

We should tip "everyone" just because.

Strippers are always watching, and the non-strippers can be your friends getting you whst you want. You don't have to go overboard, but if your stingey with tippers non-dancers, it will absolutely be noticed and can have negative impacts (I've heard them talk about it and blackball custies, because those guys more often than not are also cheap with dancers too).

Door man and attendant, you might be able to get away with not tipping, but don't for a second think you can get away with not tipping a bartender. Inside or outside the club, that's bush league, cheapskate, Ebenezer Scrooge bullshit.

Really depends on the club. When I visit Rick's Cabaret in NYC I always tip the greeter who escorts me to my table. He is then a resource to help get the ladies and service I want. At most clubs there's no interaction with anyone other than the dancers and waitresses.

Haven't you read RickyBoy's The System. Now pre-req reading here on TUSCL. He highly recommends greasing the bouncer. Especially if they are young, muscular Mediterranean types.

No but I have heard tipping cows is fun.

I guess in general the more staff you tip the more good will you may receive - e.g. if there's a payment dispute w/ a ROB dancer the bouncer may have your back

I look at it this way, a couple of $ goes a long way to a VIP attendant, bathroom attendant, chick collecting the cover charge, valet guy, bartender, waitress, etc. Considering it just a tax to see titties, and I can live with that tax.

If you do not think the waitresses tell the dancers who tips and who doesn't you are a rookie. I have had waitresses steer the "right"girl to me or give me information of who to avoid. I also agree that a tip here and there to the bouncers puts you in a better light with them and if yu have a conflicts they are way more likely to at least be fair with you.
I'm sure in some clubs they do not talk but in my experience they do. Tipping the VIP room attendant is a must because he/she has the power to ignore or not.
That being said I have been in clubs where everyone has their hand out all the time implying that you have to tip everyone all the time and I have many time found those clubs are not worth you time an d money.

I tip the bouncers when they work the CR area. I never get in trouble when I get caught smoking weed on the patio and no one mentions the extras, plus I get extra time ti finish.

You never know when a little generosity might pay dividends. I was at the club a few weeks ago and tipped the cute and well stacked bartender for all of my drinks and food. We shot the breeze a bit and it turned out she also dances several nights a week. When I switched to non-alcoholic drinks, she comped them for me.

A few weeks later I was back. She was on the schedule as a dancer, but the club had switched her to bar duty because not enough bartenders were available - it was Memorial Day. "Well, bummer," I said. "I had really hoped to get some dances from you."

"Oh, I can still give you dances..." she said.

Her regular. LDs were great. I'm pretty sure her VIP would have been a lot better if the other bartender hadn't had to go home sick and precluded it.

All because I tipped the bartender.

One interesting note. While we were talking, she said that she had done a VIP room while she was on bar duty once before. The dancer's share of the $200 fee is $140. She said that when she came back to the bar after, she gave the other barkeep $50 of it for covering her side as well.

I'll tip the VIP bouncer, I always tip waitresses and bartenders well (regardless of whether it's a SC), I've gotten better about tipping the door girl (the ones at Follies are good greeters; the regular blonde at Oasis is surly and unpleasant), and I'll tip dancers on stage or for extra good table/lap dances.

I still can't stand it when Follies or Oasis starts slapping "Reserved" signs on tables to extort tips to get a table. I've seen Oasis lose 20 custies on a Friday or Saturday night, who walk in, see there's no tables, maybe get one drink while they wait, then leave. Sure, you still made a little off them, but in the meantime the rest of their money walked out the door and the club looks stupid with 15 empty "reserved" tables that no one ever shows up to use.

It definitely depends on the club.

I'd say it's good to have a reason to tip, so you don't look like a creeper for tipping the first time. Something like, how much are lap dances here? Is good for the door guy, and then you can thank him and give him a couple bucks.

Tip mangers or bouncers directly for the vip. In my experiences, its best to give them a reasonable, but not super high tip. That gets a little too much attention sometimes and can have the opposite effect that you want. 10/20 for a vip is good per 100-300 vip. Beyond that, it's the dancer's job to tip.

Djs are maybe the most responsive to tips, and customers don't usually think of them. They can call a girl over the fastest. They also often can text girls, and know what a girl's schedule is. A lot of girls also like the djs, and care more what they think than other staff.

Always tip waitresses and bartenders. You can even tip the bartender and let them know what you won't need any drinks while in VIP.

When you're stoopid enough to tip men in a strip club it's called greasing. And I never grease the bouncers unless it's a mandatory VIP room tip/fee of some sort. Only losers following the System grease bouncers

I have tipped a bouncer for finding my phone (or more specifically, for giving it back) and for getting me a beer when the bartender was taking a smoke break.

Otherwise, I have found that it's a lot easier to let a dancer quote overall cost and for her pass out tips to other staff as appropriate. Tipping the bouncer isn't going to help if she wants to use him to reduce mileage. Tipping the bouncer won't be necessary if she is particularly motivated to sell dances that night / wants to sell you dances on a regular basis.

I can understand how this could work and that in some clubs, it might actually be necessary, but at the clubs I have been to, it just seems more likely to be pointless than anything. On the other hand, I think of tips to the bartender/waitress/door person as mandatory.

Bartenders and waitresses deserve tips. Bathroom trolls and door man/girl only get a dollar. They don't really deserve that but it's only a dollar. Greasing bouncers may be helpful if they patrol the vip/lap dance area.

Tip the bartender on the first drink in cash

Tip the manager who greets you at the door

That makes me a" loser"...funny thing about being a loser.......based on what I read on "tips of becoming a regular" I haven't paid cover charges since, I get introductions from the manager to anyone I want, without asking my drinks seem to up a class/shelf of liquor.

After the bartender and GM any tips are given on level of service and merit.

Tipping the wait staff is a must. Your choice about bouncers/doormen/bathroom attendant.

Now I have tipped the bouncers in the VIP area of clubs that I negotiated extra's with the dancer... so they look the other way.

Now here is a story about a place I went too. It was my first time at this club. I arrived early and it was slower in the club. I was sitting there waiting for a waitress to come over and get me a beer....well I waited about 15 mins and finally a waitress came over. She said, "this isn't my area but I saw you all alone and with out a drink. I will help u and then tell the person who is supposed to have the area what you drink". When she came back I tipped her well and said, "i would rather have u as my waitress than someone who ignores me.".... She smiled and said thank u for the bigger tip than normal I would leave. When she came back for my second drink... she asked, " has any girl been by yet to properly introduce you to our club?"... I said no... she said, "let me find a girl to give you a proper greeting".... lets just say I had a great time in the VIP and extras were had... multiple times!! So yes tipping staff and being friendly can prove very usefull.

In the clubs i hit I usually tip the girl that takes the cover ($1); the bathroom troll ($1) -waitresses/bartenders ($1 or $2 since I usually just get a water or a domestic beer); and in the rare cases I use VIP that has a VIP staff person o/w good-chance he will peek his head in (it's kinda an extortion but one is on their turf).

I only tip the waitresses, more out of standard bar rules.

I see no reason to tip everyone in the club. I sometimes tip bartenders but not very often. I never tip the door girl or guy outside nor the bouncers. If someone wants to, I have no problem but I don't think they will get anything out of it where I club.
In some places I have tipped someone outside if they were watching the cars. I think because he said there was a fee to park in the VIp section. The fee was that he wanted a five or he would ask you to park in the back.

One SC around me, if you slip a $100 into doorman or VIP bouncers hand during a handshake, he radios the camera room that you are now "no camera", otherwise your VIP room time will be interrupted the second you touch the kitty with a flash light being shined in your eye. I dont goto this SC.

^lol, I wouldn't go either being extorted for a $100 from the bouncers.

Ok, hold the fucking phone. I get the not tipping the bouncers or doorman. But some of you don't tip bartenders?! Forget the main point of the OP related to whether tipping non-dancers gives you an edge with dancers; in what world is it appropriate/acceptable/decent to not tip a bartender or waitress regardless of the establishment? If you recieve fair or better service, you tip them because that's how they pay their bills on their legally below minimum wage salary.

If you can't afford to even tip them or are too cheap to, maybe this isn't the hobby for you...nor is frequenting any sit down eating/drinking establishment going forward.

*end rant

One time I forgot to tip the door girl (possibly the house mom), it seemed that I was the lowest priority customer to waitresses and dancers the whole visit.

I tip the waitresses, bartender, and bathroom troll, always, for the simple purpose that not doing so makes you a piece of shit (I'll say there's wiggle room on the bathroom troll, but not on the bartender & waitress)

I do not ever tip the door girl. It's never even occurred to me, she provides me no service whatsoever.

I do not tip bouncers or managers unless they do something for me that merits it -- although I DO sometimes buy a round for me and the bouncer and do it together. That small gesture tends to buy me a lot of leeway in the VIP room, VIP treatment on the floor, and hell, I'm always down to do a shot with the guy, and sometimes enjoy having someone to talk sports with or whatever while I'm waiting for my stripper.

The strippers could not give a fuck less whether I tip any of those people.

I would re-think these policies if there was something clear I could get out of it; the end goal isn't to be proud that I am so awesome I didn't tip the bouncer; the end goal is to have an awesome time with the stripper at a fair price, and if tipping the bouncer $10 would buy me a ton more touching in the VIP, I'd just look at it as one total fee ($110), and if it were worth it, then I'd consider it

Tipping the manager has provided me an introduction to the best looking women--ahead of everyone else, gotten me a seat in a packed club of my choice, gotten the manager to have the bartender take care of me.........and gotten me free passes into the club.

Tipping the bartender has provided me insight into the girls and steered me in the right direction on things like what I can and can't do in the private areas, who is a good time, who might be in the back room and has not come out yet and is hot, better shelf of alcohol on mixed drinks, faster service, and introduction to the owner of the club......

I can list the clubs this has worked for me in......and as a side note it was from the advice of Subraman on how to become a regular and why you should that reinforced the idea I should tip to speed the process along ( yes I already had been following the tipping route but if you are a newbie as I was, or not doing what you want with a lesser degree of success you listen to those who are experienced)

I certainly tip them but nothing extraordinary. I only provide large tips to a stripper that has given me good dances. It only makes sense that giving a $20+ tip to them goes further than a huge tip to the dj, bouncer, etc.