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Who is down with Red Pill MGTOW movements?

Apr 23, 2017, 11:50 AM

Un-retired: Met my ATF. Married her. Divorcing her.

I'm starting to notice a lot of sites dedicated to the red pill movement. Red Pill is a reference to the Matrix being the Red Pill of truth.

For those of you who don't know the Red Pill movement is about men who are basically taking and anti-feminism point of view toward society and trying to reclaim their masculinity when engaging women.

The MGTOW movement is a little bit more extreme where men are forsaking women unless completely necessary. The hero's often referred to are The Apostle Paul and Nikolai Tesla.

I've read through some if the material. In the end too me it just seems like a bunch of guys who didnt get laid now going about with sour grapes. But the thing is there's been an explosion of these types of sites in the last 3 or so years

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shadowcat8 years ago

AT MGTOW aircraft movements require more thrust.

san_jose_guy8 years ago

Maybe some of the basic ideas behind Red Pill MGTOW are good, but there are also very serious problems.

For one thing they are opposed to feminism, they make that the enemy. This is pure ignorance. The second is that they come from a Libertarian Anti-Government perspective, again pure ignorance on their parts.

SJG

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ATACdawg8 years ago

Nicola Tesla????? Shocking!

duomaxwell8 years ago

It's the incels that really get me

Dougster8 years ago

I took some red ecstasy pills ones. Think I prefer the blues.

Dougster8 years ago

Why don't they just pay hookers for sex? RickyBoy even has a System for those for whom it is too complicated to figure out how.

sharkhunter8 years ago

Never heard about it. I might see what it's about sometime. Do they still go to strip clubs or get lap dances? I remember one dancer who was dedicated to making sure I got laid, definitely a possible anti whatever movement.

warhawks8 years ago

I've found the more money you have, the more you can get laid... if you are willing to spend it.

ppwh8 years ago

I'm not down with it as in wanting to be a part of it or read their forums. I think it was inevitable that something like this would crop up, though, now that men are doing measurably worse in ways like university attendance.

Years ago after a breakup where the girl was a nympho who was constantly cheating, I decided that it would better to be the on the non-cuck side of the equation and went through a period of womanizing. The discussion on those forums reminds me of my thinking in those days. The women would get attached despite (or maybe because of) laying it out that I wasn't offering a relationship. Eventually, I started feeling sorry for them more than I wanted to get with them and found a girlfriend who was a better match than the nympho.

Call.Me.Ishmael8 years ago

Yeah, this stuff is an outgrowth of the PUA movement. It's horseshit packaged to sell on the Internet.

san_jose_guy8 years ago

I have no interest in forsaking women, just in relating to them in different ways. MGTOW's are sometimes interesting to listen to, but I do not agree with them.

SJG

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san_jose_guy8 years ago

The PUA movement also, interesting to listen to, and some good insights. But overall I do not agree with them and would not want to live like them. Anti-feminist, when it is because of feminism that we have all these fast action hotties running around. They also seem to believe that they are pulling something over on the women, completely adversarial.

Don't agree with him, but hilarious to listen to: youtube.com

SJG

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FTS8 years ago

The Red Pill (TRP) is not anti-feminism. The Red Pill is a very pure, simple idea: truth. Reality. It's taking away any lenses through which you can view and interpret societal interactions. That's it. It's just a brand name for the concept of taking life by the horns and facing reality.

MGTOW.... that's a tough pill to swallow, but I think a lot of men (a significant portion) would benefit from trying the lifestyle for at least a couple years.

Call.Me.Ishmael8 years ago

To each their own...

san_jose_guy8 years ago

" taking away any lenses through which you can view and interpret societal interactions"

That is impossible. Interpretations are built into language.

And each of their commentators, that is MGTOW, is always denouncing feminism. They don't even understand what feminism is.

SJG

RandomMember8 years ago

MGTOW members -- basically socially awkward men who have been spurned by every single woman they have ever met.

Estafador8 years ago

No. I like women, and some of them are so engaging, I want to keep them around for a long time.

Estafador8 years ago

Where did the term, incel come from? Never heard that term a day in my life up until today.

san_jose_guy8 years ago

I largely agree with RandomMember here.

And they have misunderstood what feminism is, and they don't see how they are benefiting from it.

SJG

Hugh_G_Rection8 years ago

As far as the idea that MGTOW is repackaged PUA BS-- I think its older. Look at General Jack D. Ripper in "Doctor Strangelove" saying "I'm not afraid of women, Mandrake, but I do deny them my essence". Look at the idea of a celibate clergy which had real socio-political power for over a millennium. Didn't make for balanced individuals then, and I don't think it makes for well rounded men now. I think the MGTOW movement is basically pathetic, especially when the little whining SNOWFLAKES want to describe themselves as 'Alphas', yeah.... whatever

san_jose_guy8 years ago

You want to hear an anti-feminist, right here after a brief introduction by actor Gerald McRaney:

youtu.be

You don't want to oppose feminism, but we do need to understand it.

SJG