I'm guessing it's different for every club particularly if you've only been once(not a large sample size). so for this experiment, only the clubs you've been to more than once. Previously, it was probably 20-40%. lately(not traveling anymore) it's more like 5-10%. that's one out of every 10 strippers(if I'm lucky). if there's less than 10 dancers, there's a good chance none of them tickle my fancy!
For me, there's attractive "she's nice looking", and attractive "Sure, I'd spend $100 on a VIP dance or three with her". I only need one VIP-worthy attractive girl, but the trip just feels better if there's lots of other attractive women around. And I find there's a weird perception thing that goes on -- the more attractive women around, the more they seem to lift each other up in attractiveness.
If I find 40% of the girls "nice looking" attractive, I consider that an above-average trip
If I find 20% of the girls "VIP-worthy", I consider that an above-average trip
Since I go to dayshifts, where 10-15 girl lineups are the norm, less than 10% VIP-worthy girls basically means I don't do any dances that day, we call that a No Joy.
One of my best buddies has this indiscriminate taste in women. If you put 50 girls in a room, maybe your average guy would find 10 or 15 of them attractive; my buddy would find maybe 40 of them attractive. The two of us once went to a club where there were something like 20 girls on shift. He asks me, "how many girls do you think are hot here?" I tell him there's two girls who might be hot enough to do dances with, but I'm still deciding. He tells me, "I think they're all hot. I haven't seen a single girl I wouldn't dance with here." Ugh. But hey, he has fun every single trip
subra, I know what you mean(not literally as I have only strip clubbed alone to date). but I think everyone has that friend that will fuck anything that moves and has a vagina.
Vikings, I agree Friday and saturday nights the percentage goes up. but also the number of pl's goes up. so much so that it's much harder to get ahold of one that I find attractive. Friday's and Saturday nights after a certain time become sausage fests akin to night clubs or bars, which are much cheaper.
I am very careful when I use the term attractive, because it is all about personal preference.
On a typical visit for me, I would consider the percentages to be the following:
5-10% I personally find to be attractive
50-75% I consider to be attractive but not my type
5-10% just should not be dancing at all, they are that ugly
Either way I look at it, sometimes taking a chance on one of those I put in the category "attractive but not my type" does pay off. If their looks aren't doing it for me, but they show a fun personality, most times I will get at least one dance from them. As a result, I actually have found some of these girls to be more attractive after finding out they give really great dances.
On the other hand, sometimes I find one that has me turned on just by looking at her face and she hasn't even taken her top off. Then when I get a dance from her, it ends up being an air dance and that kills any attraction I had initially. That is, provided she actually has approached me. More often than not, it seems the hottest ones will go hide and not approach customers when they are off stage.
It is very rare that I find a dancer to be extremely attractive and also give good dances. But when I find them, it makes visiting the club a very fulfilling experience.
The club I go to most often I found 2 girls out 10 hot enough that I would buy multiple dances from which means I'm really attracted to them.
The rest of the girls are like 6 or 7....I would gladly date them in the civilian world but I would not spend $ for a dance on them because there not really stripper hot or hot in general.
Everyone has their own idea of attractive. There are plenty of dancers in a club that are good looking, but simply aren't my type. That's why I rate dancers not by their relative attractiveness, but on a point "lap-ability" scale.
1 = Wouldn't lap her if she paid me
2 = Good looking or has a feature I find interesting (like huge tits on a meh face). Usually will get 2 laps with these when I'm bored.
3= Just my type, gives great 2-way contact dances, will VIP on a regular basis. Usually 4-10 dances (or more).
4= Very rare. Out of this world perfect body (for me), gives good/great laps, will ALWAYS VIP when I am in a club. Becoming more of a unicorn now but I just found a new one at Bourbon Street Circus.
If you could build your own dancer, in looks and attitude, that's what a "4" would be. Incredibly rare. Super hot and great laps, but short of perfection, is a "3". A specific feature you like (for me, tits, for you, maybe asses or Asians or Latinas, or tattoos or whatever) is a "2." Just taking up space, would never lap and perfect time to use the restroom without missing anything, is a "1."
that was my guess. but i had to ask because of unusual conditions. me for example. there have been times that my standards slip all the way to your 40%. beer goggles is my excuse.
on chili palmers scale, I have not seen a 4 in months. I have been settling for 3s lately(minus the high contact sometimes). I don't bother with 1s or 2s since I can get that otc.
I wouldn't try to calculate a percentage - for me, it tends to be 0-3 dancers, regardless of how many there are. It's more of a sliding scale where if one is particularly attractive, the others lose some appeal. I have trouble deciding what to do on the nights where three of them rate.
Unfortunately it's usually less than 25% for me. Other dancers have occasionally persuaded me to get dances on occasion. If it's more than one out of every four, I'm enjoying the view quite a lot. At some clubs, I often see dancers whom I wouldn't want to go out with even if you paid me. If they outnumber the hot dancers, I may leave early if they are hard to avoid. If I'm horny or in a good club, it can be well over 50 to 75% dancers whom I might get dances from. It's still usually only a handful I would consider very hot. On my last club visit to lust, there was only one dancer I consider very hot, some others looked very nice or were very friendly which can make a dancer attractive if looks aren't everything. Pasties make the girls look less attractive though. It varies from one visit to another.
Example , 20 dancers working, I might be willing to get dances from 5 of them on a less than stellar night. In a large club with 100 dancers maybe over 20 I might find attractive. More in clubs where the girls are more heavily screened but then you tend to lose dancers actually being friendly somewhat without everyone faking it quite poorly. Some dancers are very attractive but terrible at acting friendly. At least they were trying. When I first started clubbing, clubs I visited screened the girls and didn't hire a lot of those I have seen working in more recent years. Some of that might be due to some guys actually enjoying very fat girls. I will take fat over anorexic but neither is attractive to me if she is way past just a few extra pounds.
I'd agree with James SD stats. His "FFF" category might be equivalent to CP's "2" dancer. Those would be the dancers who don't (quite) make you say wow for any number of reasons (slight to moderate overweight, too much ink, etc) but with enough redeeming features to make her lapable. You'd take her on a slow night, or if your top choices are unavailable.
There's attractive--as in she's good looking and would hook up with in civilian world-- and then there's strip club attractive. The latter has more stringent standards... so on a good night I'd say maybe 10-15%
Attractive (may or may not be to my tastes for dances) - 30-50%
Lap Dance candidates - 10-25%
VIP candidates - 5-15%
Take it if they were giving it away for free - surprisingly, not 100%. Maybe 50-70%.
Some are attractive but I'm not personally attracted to. Some I think are hot but know others would find her a SC average at best. It's a moving target.
The only way I can quantify this is by who I would buy dances from, and that's about 5%.
Most strippers are hot and I would be happy to bang them if they were civilian girls. I would approach them or try to game them if I saw them in a normal car or whatever. So I'd say I find 90% to be attractive.
But strip clubs are different. I've become very picky. I really don't want to pay SC prices unless I think she is really hot, just my type, etc. Someone used the term unicorn. Matter of fact, I didn't buy a dance at all on at the last 3 first time club visits I made. So probably 5% are above the threshold.
It's fun to read the responses. Seems we are all saying basically the same thing.
And I used to be like Subraman'salsa friend. When I was a rookie I'd buy lap dances from multiple girls every time I hit the club. I guess one just becomes aware of what is out there and what the mmmdwaam really get.
To add to what Digitech said, I think it's just that after a while you become more sure of what you want and who you're likely to enjoy the most. When I started I would get dances from half the dancers in the club. Now, I basically only stick to dancers that are my type. Why go VIP, or buy a bunch of dances off someone that isn't very close to what I'm looking for? I've been around long enough to know that I'll eventually find her, whether it's this visit or another.
Also, I'm not sure about others, but once I became aware of what I was spending I reviewed to make sure I was happy, getting "good value," and that I was satisfied with the results. That seemed to happen a lot more when I became particular about what dancers I wanted.
But since I am also eliminating attitude- pushy tip grabbers- uncomfortable ladies who cannot make eye contact or talk with just about any customers at all- and enhanced ladies that I would have found attractive before implants/ tattoos/ and piercings.....
That usually brings me down to about 5%-15% during a 6 hour club visit...... Does that make me too picky?
Oh well. If I'm picky than I'm picky. It's my money to spend or keep.
Seems a lot of the experienced PLs stick to a small to very-small subset of dancers.
I assume this plays into many dancers' thinking that guys are cheap b/c they won't spend on them where in reality they are waiting for someone specific to spend on.
Papi, that's me. I've had between zero and 4 regulars at a time (different shits) and when they're working I don't buy dances from anyone else. There's a reason they're regulars after all!
Before my one current daytime CF, there was a period of a few months when I didn't have any at all, so I was playing the field. Variety is fun but I prefer to have a regular! More action with no wasted money. I did like that all the dancers who recognized me knew my regulars had left, so I was really popular as they knew I was 'shopping around'.
My club is very hit or miss for any extras at all; and mostly miss with new girls, so when I get a dancer I find attractive and does the job the way I like it, I stick with her.
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What's your criteria for attractive?
I'm going to say 7 and up. I would say in my area at least at the clubs I go to, most of the girls are at least a 7. Something like 60%.
If I find 40% of the girls "nice looking" attractive, I consider that an above-average trip
If I find 20% of the girls "VIP-worthy", I consider that an above-average trip
Since I go to dayshifts, where 10-15 girl lineups are the norm, less than 10% VIP-worthy girls basically means I don't do any dances that day, we call that a No Joy.
honestly, its unusual for me to go to a club and not find multiple dancers I wanna get dances from---ESPECIALLY if its on a friday or saturday night
Vikings, I agree Friday and saturday nights the percentage goes up. but also the number of pl's goes up. so much so that it's much harder to get ahold of one that I find attractive. Friday's and Saturday nights after a certain time become sausage fests akin to night clubs or bars, which are much cheaper.
On a typical visit for me, I would consider the percentages to be the following:
5-10% I personally find to be attractive
50-75% I consider to be attractive but not my type
5-10% just should not be dancing at all, they are that ugly
Either way I look at it, sometimes taking a chance on one of those I put in the category "attractive but not my type" does pay off. If their looks aren't doing it for me, but they show a fun personality, most times I will get at least one dance from them. As a result, I actually have found some of these girls to be more attractive after finding out they give really great dances.
On the other hand, sometimes I find one that has me turned on just by looking at her face and she hasn't even taken her top off. Then when I get a dance from her, it ends up being an air dance and that kills any attraction I had initially. That is, provided she actually has approached me. More often than not, it seems the hottest ones will go hide and not approach customers when they are off stage.
It is very rare that I find a dancer to be extremely attractive and also give good dances. But when I find them, it makes visiting the club a very fulfilling experience.
The rest of the girls are like 6 or 7....I would gladly date them in the civilian world but I would not spend $ for a dance on them because there not really stripper hot or hot in general.
1 = Wouldn't lap her if she paid me
2 = Good looking or has a feature I find interesting (like huge tits on a meh face). Usually will get 2 laps with these when I'm bored.
3= Just my type, gives great 2-way contact dances, will VIP on a regular basis. Usually 4-10 dances (or more).
4= Very rare. Out of this world perfect body (for me), gives good/great laps, will ALWAYS VIP when I am in a club. Becoming more of a unicorn now but I just found a new one at Bourbon Street Circus.
C "playing the chump's game" P
1's 40%
2's 30%
3's 24%
4's 1%
CP
CP
Stripper hot? 10-20%
Find so attractive that I would want to get a dance from them - less than 5%
Lap Dance candidates - 10-25%
VIP candidates - 5-15%
Take it if they were giving it away for free - surprisingly, not 100%. Maybe 50-70%.
Soooooo true
As much as I like my CF physically, her best attribute is that she's friendly and great at GFE
The only way I can quantify this is by who I would buy dances from, and that's about 5%.
There's attractive which means would be willing to fuck (for free or cheap) and there's BAD which is likely what you all are referring to.
I attend SCs exclusively during dayshift so maybe 10% for a bad chick. A unicorn during the day shift. Simply attractive like >50%.
But strip clubs are different. I've become very picky. I really don't want to pay SC prices unless I think she is really hot, just my type, etc. Someone used the term unicorn. Matter of fact, I didn't buy a dance at all on at the last 3 first time club visits I made. So probably 5% are above the threshold.
And I used to be like Subraman'salsa friend. When I was a rookie I'd buy lap dances from multiple girls every time I hit the club. I guess one just becomes aware of what is out there and what the mmmdwaam really get.
Also, I'm not sure about others, but once I became aware of what I was spending I reviewed to make sure I was happy, getting "good value," and that I was satisfied with the results. That seemed to happen a lot more when I became particular about what dancers I wanted.
SJG
But since I am also eliminating attitude- pushy tip grabbers- uncomfortable ladies who cannot make eye contact or talk with just about any customers at all- and enhanced ladies that I would have found attractive before implants/ tattoos/ and piercings.....
That usually brings me down to about 5%-15% during a 6 hour club visit...... Does that make me too picky?
Oh well. If I'm picky than I'm picky. It's my money to spend or keep.
I assume this plays into many dancers' thinking that guys are cheap b/c they won't spend on them where in reality they are waiting for someone specific to spend on.
Before my one current daytime CF, there was a period of a few months when I didn't have any at all, so I was playing the field. Variety is fun but I prefer to have a regular! More action with no wasted money. I did like that all the dancers who recognized me knew my regulars had left, so I was really popular as they knew I was 'shopping around'.
My club is very hit or miss for any extras at all; and mostly miss with new girls, so when I get a dancer I find attractive and does the job the way I like it, I stick with her.