So attitude is just important as new shoes or a different hairstyle to us girls. I have played around with different attitudes and found one that has worked quiet well lately. Mix part bitch and part feisty and I have been doing well. ive mastered the act like your just a little too good for them and then tie it into the but I still need your money so heres my tits attitude. It seems to me that its more about shit talking vs actually being a bitch. I shit talk a lot to my customers but in a way that is still underlying flirty in nature. Also customers seem to respond to teasing not sensually but just kinda messing with them enough to remain funny but have an underlying tone that makes it seems that I may be serious too. Its definetly worked better for me then being overly nice or the sweet innocent routine. Any thoughts? What kinda attitude do you guys prefer the best?
I would think teasing and edging - like to constantly lead on a PL "like I may do this or that back in VIP" is the ultimate way to drain a PLs wallet. Most guys on her (except for Fishsticks, imamutt and Bavarian) are too savvy for those traps by the average PL would not catch on before their wallet is drained.
I say if it works for you keep at it. I would rather have fun with a girl and bitchy, flirty, and fun conversation from her works great in combination with great tits.
Bitchy never works for me, although based on how you described it, that might not be quite the right term for what you're doing.
I do love fiesty
I don't mind "aloof"... at first. If you STAY aloof, you'll be getting the boot. But it can be fun to have an aloof girl (most "aloof" girls are actually shy, IME) and slowly open them up. Makes you feel like you've gotten somewhere :)
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Poledancer, depending on what you mean, the feistiness might get me to open the wallet sooner. I can see that. But sweetness will get me to spend more, for longer, depending on if you transition or not. Also nothing IMO replaces mileage and rapport for keeping me in the dance seat.
For me she has to be sweet. Now, she can do that in a sassy and feisty way to turn up the fun. The teasing, playful type get my dollar. The one who laughs at my jokes, plays to my ego, and boldly bust my chops in a flirty and fun way has gotten me good... That is on top of being extraordinary good looking too...
I don't see how being bitchy can result in guys giving you more money. Sweet and innocent makes me wonder what kind of mileage I'll get with a lap dance. Slutty makes me wonder what kind of extras and mileage you've already given tonight. Confident, fun, and seductive is the beat way to part this PL from his hard earned cash.
IMO, pretty-much what "duo" said - ""Bitchy" doesn't work, "Confident and fun" works"
Confidence is key and confidence does not necessarily mean being bitchy (although it can) - no one-size fits all w.r.t. PLs - for me I prefer a confident aggressive woman/dancer - for me her being sweet does not really rev my motor nor pique my interest as much - in a subconscious sorta way if she does not think, or comes across, as not being worthy of my $$$/business, then in a subconscious way I also believe that.
I have heard girls say they make more money with a bitchy hustle. This is not a tactic I use because every man's ego is different and I don't want to be a bitch to a man who['s wallet] might respond negatively to it. Plus, a bitch hustle would be contrived for me.
I usually use the bubbly, sweet hustle. I smile a lot. I act excited. Smiling = more money for me. I've found this hustle to be exciting for the guys, and leading to quicker money being spent.
I also have a more "sultry" hustle, where I act sort of like one of the young, elegant beauties from the 50s and 60s (Audrey Hepburn, Elizabeth Taylor, Grace Kelly, etc). I still smile a lot and also bite my lip.
*However, if it's a game night or a busy weekend night and the club is standing-room only type of busy, that's when the more assertive hustle comes in because there are guys everywhere I step, so I'll just grab one and say, "hey, let's go." Gets them into VIP the majority of the time. I still don't act bitchy in those times, just very assertive and I suppose aggressive because there's sooo much money that can be made so quickly.
I had a regular that used the bitchy approach and she was a lot of fun. She always tried to get me to LDK from her VERY aggressive grind but I never did. She'd start screaming at me out of frustration too! LOL Luckily she was available for OTC, where she could make me cum very easily.
She once asked me if I thought people were afraid of her...well YES, some must have been!! We were close though and had an 'understanding'. She never scared me in the slightest. She intimidated a lot of other dancers too though! LOL I miss that girl...we're still FB friends and she has had a steady B/F since she quit dancing so I don't see her anymore. Oh well.
All of the above notwithstanding, in the clubs I do see plenty of guys fawning over dancers that treat them like shit. For some PLs, there's likely a gap between what they believe works for them and what *actually* works on them.
As I often post; strip-clubs are bizarro-world (opposite of the real-world) - in SC bizarro-world the roles are kinda reversed - in the real-world it is usually the man that does the approaching and convincing, in SC bizarro-world it is usually the woman/dancer - thus just like nice-guys finish-last in the real-world, IMO nice dancers probably also finish last in SC bizarro-world.
And by "nice" I mean mostly being non-assertive and a pushover.
There was a girl at the Sunnyvale Hip Hugger who was bitchy. Once she brought this baby doll, and was holding it like it was real, and saying to guys, "You better start paying for the baby that was born last week, you better start paying." Other dancers were making hand gestures and saying that they have nothing to do with her.
At a San Francisco club, where they start the new girls as waitresses, one was real bossy and insulating. Telling people to tip the other waitress, "Be a man."
I think she needed a spanking and a fucking.
But you know, dancers have to be able to manipulate guys. And especially in this, a clip joint with no front room makeout sessions.
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To me that would be almost as plausible as a stripper putting on a bitchy attitude just to elicit more money out of a pl's wallet.
Bitchy gets nothing from me, nice and sweet is where you need to be to get my moolah.
I do love fiesty
I don't mind "aloof"... at first. If you STAY aloof, you'll be getting the boot. But it can be fun to have an aloof girl (most "aloof" girls are actually shy, IME) and slowly open them up. Makes you feel like you've gotten somewhere :)
Front room makeout session, with feeding her respect money.
Then when it is time for your pants to come down, you invite her to the back room. Or just take her home with you.
SJG
It also depends on a girl's look. A dancer with lots of tattoos and huge tits is going to have a hard time pulling off a sweet / innocent routine.
I think that any persona that crosses the line from feisty to bitchy or pushy is a losing proposition.
"Bitchy" is the fastest way to lose my interest. Outgoing, a little flirty and some good-natured sarcasm gets me everytime.
Confidence is key and confidence does not necessarily mean being bitchy (although it can) - no one-size fits all w.r.t. PLs - for me I prefer a confident aggressive woman/dancer - for me her being sweet does not really rev my motor nor pique my interest as much - in a subconscious sorta way if she does not think, or comes across, as not being worthy of my $$$/business, then in a subconscious way I also believe that.
Arrogant, assertive, bitchy. Not really.
I usually use the bubbly, sweet hustle. I smile a lot. I act excited. Smiling = more money for me. I've found this hustle to be exciting for the guys, and leading to quicker money being spent.
I also have a more "sultry" hustle, where I act sort of like one of the young, elegant beauties from the 50s and 60s (Audrey Hepburn, Elizabeth Taylor, Grace Kelly, etc). I still smile a lot and also bite my lip.
She once asked me if I thought people were afraid of her...well YES, some must have been!! We were close though and had an 'understanding'. She never scared me in the slightest. She intimidated a lot of other dancers too though! LOL I miss that girl...we're still FB friends and she has had a steady B/F since she quit dancing so I don't see her anymore. Oh well.
SJG
And by "nice" I mean mostly being non-assertive and a pushover.
At a San Francisco club, where they start the new girls as waitresses, one was real bossy and insulating. Telling people to tip the other waitress, "Be a man."
I think she needed a spanking and a fucking.
But you know, dancers have to be able to manipulate guys. And especially in this, a clip joint with no front room makeout sessions.
SJG