An interesting one: Too hot for the club (from SW)
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NYC.Bianca-->"Ok, I need some advice from other dancers.
I have asked a lot of club employees from Vegas, Portland & Denver about this issue I have sometimes (more times than not) at clubs where I am, if not always, one of the hottest if not the hottest girl there. And yes even in Vegas this happens. The issue is.... I am too intimidating to customers! Everyone tells me I am intimidating (unless its an arrogant guy typically)
So tonight was a bad night for me, and one of the club employees said I am too intimidating, too "perfect stripper"/Barbie,
Does anyone have any hustle advice on trying to be less intimidating? I like being put together.
For an idea of what I look like, just think "Victoria Secret" model type; stats 32DD-24-36; slim/tone, I am 6'1"+ in heels; long hair; Slovakian/French mix." --->
At this point, I'd like you all to assume this isn't just a humble brag, it's a real problem.
LikeThis-->"You describe yourself as a shy, reserved introvert who "sometimes" starts conversations and occasionally spends too much energy on the wrong customers. Your problem is your hustle is weak and being hot sometimes make that more obvious or make certain characteristics seem a bit more negative than they would on a more average looking person."
WeHadARAbbitLikeYou-->"I'm guessing that it's because you are reserved shy and it comes off as standoffish and icy"
SelinaM-->"OP, I have a similar issue sometimes (supermodel type features + chronic Resting Bitch Face + introvert that hates wasting energy). The struggle is real. Can't tell you how many guys have commented that they've seen me but I was 'intimidating' or 'standoffish'. "
dely-->"You have to be super friendly and nice to people without wasting your own time. This is how I have to hustle, too, because any other hustle and people think I'm a stuck up cunt."
I have asked a lot of club employees from Vegas, Portland & Denver about this issue I have sometimes (more times than not) at clubs where I am, if not always, one of the hottest if not the hottest girl there. And yes even in Vegas this happens. The issue is.... I am too intimidating to customers! Everyone tells me I am intimidating (unless its an arrogant guy typically)
So tonight was a bad night for me, and one of the club employees said I am too intimidating, too "perfect stripper"/Barbie,
Does anyone have any hustle advice on trying to be less intimidating? I like being put together.
For an idea of what I look like, just think "Victoria Secret" model type; stats 32DD-24-36; slim/tone, I am 6'1"+ in heels; long hair; Slovakian/French mix." --->
At this point, I'd like you all to assume this isn't just a humble brag, it's a real problem.
LikeThis-->"You describe yourself as a shy, reserved introvert who "sometimes" starts conversations and occasionally spends too much energy on the wrong customers. Your problem is your hustle is weak and being hot sometimes make that more obvious or make certain characteristics seem a bit more negative than they would on a more average looking person."
WeHadARAbbitLikeYou-->"I'm guessing that it's because you are reserved shy and it comes off as standoffish and icy"
SelinaM-->"OP, I have a similar issue sometimes (supermodel type features + chronic Resting Bitch Face + introvert that hates wasting energy). The struggle is real. Can't tell you how many guys have commented that they've seen me but I was 'intimidating' or 'standoffish'. "
dely-->"You have to be super friendly and nice to people without wasting your own time. This is how I have to hustle, too, because any other hustle and people think I'm a stuck up cunt."
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Some of my greatest stripper finds over the years have been girls like this -- super gorgeous girls whose body language and overall vibe SCREAMS "aloof icy cunt"... and then it turns out, they're shy. Well okay, just to counterbalance -- very often they ARE aloof icy cunts with GPS. But more often than most would think, you have an incredibly beautiful woman who, impossibly it seems, is shy or has low self esteem, and is amazing once you make things easy for her. Some of my favorite stories that I've told on here -- e.g., the stripper who lived far away and used to stay overnight with me FOR FREE as long as I got a hotel in the city close to the strip club, so she could roll out of bed and go straight to the club in the morning -- were hottest-in-the-club gorgeous but super shy.
As a result, I tend to pursue the hottest chicks regardless of the vibe they give off. If, after they're sitting with me, they actually ARE a GPS SW-like cunt, I send them packing. But no amount of beauty or seeming aloofness or iciness scares me away... such girls are worth the risk, there are some incredibly hidden gems.
What about you guys? Anyone avoid the topmost beautiful girls? Or avoid girls who seem to come off as aloof? Totally understand why some guys do that, just think you could be missing some gems...
I DEFINITELY avoid such girls, not a turnon at all. But loads of customers like that look; in fact, I think we're in the minority on not liking it. The girls with that look seem to do killer business in the club
Exactly. If we give her the benefit of the doubt and rule out JS69's explanation, then this is exactly the problem. "You're too intimidating" is just the nicest way people can phrase "you're coming off as a stuck up bitch".
I will say though that my regulars are in high demand as a rule, so at least I can consider that I have good taste.
...And before I'm accused of being acrophobic, three of the best dancers I have ever enjoyed were taller than my 5'-10".
Like you said, she could be shy and doesn't feel comfortable approaching customers. Or, she could be a bitch to most people, but if you click with her, she may warm up to you. It's worth a shot. No harm in chatting her up, buying a drink for her, possibly a dance, and see what happens.
I bought a couple of dances from a girl who was one of the hottest in the club once. She was icy, distant, going through the motions, and didn't crack a smile. I didn't think much about her after ending the dances. Then, saw her about two weeks later and got another dance from her. She didn't even remember me. Somehow, broke through with her this 2nd time, and she gave me her real name, phone #, etc. We started texting, became friends, and she sent me some naked pictures. Turns out she was just really introverted.
So, yeah, you never know.
I've never avoided the top shelf most beautiful girls because I thought they might be aloof or shy. I realize they exist, but it's probably much more of the exception than the norm. Seems to me being super shy would make it difficult if you're a stripper
I tend to just get dances from whoever I find the most attractive. To me it's hard to gauge what they're like until you've talked to them
One thing I like about my fav is that she has a really good attitude. Strippers are generally attractive because they're selling looks. Sure, some are better looking than others, but for the most part they're attractive women. What sets them apart from me is their attitude. I had 2 dancers (I bought multiple private rooms from BOTH of them) at one club who I liked pretty much equally as far as looks. But my fav will sit in my lap while the other girl didn't like to sit in laps
Ever go into a club and see guys lining up for a fugly dancer while a hot one sits in the corner alone on her phone for an hour? As shallow as we are, not all guys are interested in just looks. Chances are the fugly dancer is fun to talk to, or she gives great BJs.
Also many dancers whether consciously or sub-consciously think every guy should go for them where most guys have their type they're looking for, thus a dancer may think it's something wrong w/ her or her hustle, no, you're just not what I'm looking for.
Stripping is a sales job, salespeople need to be outgoing - in the case of a stripper at least they need to look friendly and approachable - as the other SWers said it's mostly her poor hustle - most custies in most clubs seem to often prefer being approached, thus if she doesn't approach guys or doesn't come off as approachable then her sales will probably suffer.
I def have seen good looking dancers just wonder seemingly aimlessly in clubs the whole night.
My guess is its a combo. She's probably not as hot as she thinks she is, I'm guessing the DD's are either real and sloppy or fake and shitty. That probably also leads to a bit of a sense of entitlement. The two form a toxic combo and guys run for the hills. I do avoid girls who are decent looking but give off ice queen vibes, or maybe avoid is a bit strong, they drop way down the list of priorities. I only really totally avoid even trying out girls I don't find attractive.
In the black clubs I go to some of those ebonies are hood and can't carry a convo especially w/ an older whiteguy (at least in their mind) - thus I've had some ebony dancers that won't say a word but give me a VHM dance or more.
SelinaM is definitely one of the more hysterical posters there. She overcompensates hysterically.
:)
The explanations for this stripper's experience:
- She's nowhere near as hot as she thinks she is, per JS69
- She comes off as aloof, icy, GPSy. Which throws some of us off, but many of us aren't dissuaded by that
- She's so much taller than the customers that they aren't attracted... I can see this one
Don't you have to get dances before knowing if she is the best the club has to offer?
My modus operandi is to consider girls that surpass my attractiveness threshold and then get dances from those that give me a good vibe for fun and high mileage.
I'd rather enjoy dances from the best providers than stroke my ego by being with the club 10.
The club's value rating means more to me than the dancer rating.
I doubt she's as hot as she thinks she is.
1. Yes I will talk to and approach dancers who appear icy or "too hot."
2. I will even talk to or let approach dancers who I would have *rejected* in the past for superficial reasons.
In both cases I sometimes find gems among them. Real gems. So it pays to give them a chance. Plus this is Cleveland and not L.A. We're not exactly overflowing with beautiful women. So I do t have as many choices otherwise I could be choosier.
The same argument goes for the dancers with me as a customer. I think it works out. :)