OT: The Last Word on the Presidential Campaign
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I usually do not make New Year's resolutions. But this year I resolved not to engage in political arguments. Such arguments are pointless because I have never convinced anyone to change his vote and no one has ever convinced me. I admit I've broken my resolution a couple times. Here is the last word on the presidential campaign.
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vent frustrations.
Same choice, really.
I don't even consider these discussions political. It's more about whether we should let someone with mental illness occupy the White House. And make no mistake about it --- this isn't about economic anxiety. Trump's rise is all about race and the changing demographics of the country.
I am so done with it. Times are changing. Demographics are changing. I only talk politics she I can have a rational discussion in person.
As a matter of fact, I'm finding Gary Johnson pretty thin gruel as a standard-bearer for the libertarian cause and will probably, for the first time in my adult life, vote for *nobody* for President.
Do the math:
Fed Income tax(max rate of 37.5) use 22% + State Income tax 11% + State sales tax 8%(average) + State Property tax(you pay it even if you rent the landlord has to pay so he adds it to your rent) 10%(low average) + Utility usage tax 1% + State personal property tax (car etc) 2% + Gasoline tax (depending on how much your drive-low estimate) 2% + Various 'sin' taxes (booze/tobacco) 1% (does not include various other taxes like Obamacare, travel and entertainment taxes that most cities have) = 57% and that is a low estimate, it does not take much of an income bump to jump to the 25% tax bracket.
What happens when she bumps the top tax bracket to 50%, drops the lower brackets and the average working schmuck now starts at 30% instead of 20% and she bumps utility taxes and gasoline taxes as she has promised to to support her green energy cronies(Solindra) pretty soon you are at 70% in taxes. She has also proposed to tax us based on net worth so if you have a retirement account, stocks, savings account, money market account, car and a house you now have to pay a tax based upon their current market value.
I think I may just fall into the basket of deplorable s because I don't think every group needs special treatment, immigrants need to come in legally, pastors should be allowed to speak their mind from the pulpit without the threat of IRS retribution, government is to big and needs a 50% staffing reduction(LE and military not so much), Congress must abide by the laws they impose upon the rest of us and believe in TERM LIMITS.
Where I grew up there were term limits on the governor, sheriff and most mayors. This help stem the good old boy network somewhat but did not go far enough.
Listen to Gary Johnson's appearances on all the talk shows -radio and television- and he is clearly a drug addled lunatic. He literally foamed at the mouth on Fox News Sunday. Jill Stein is simply a clueless idiot.
There are white racists and xenophobes voting for Trump. As an American, I am ashamed of them; but every country has racists and nationalist zealous. Trump is none of those. Trumps ascendancy is really about bucking the system. Johnson and Clinton are both career politicians. Political office should be about public service, not career progression. Trump first flipped the tables on the Republicans. Then he rattled the cages of the media. Now he's flipping the script on Hillary and the democrat party. I am loving watching the symbiotic parasite network of the establishment panic about everything he's doing. Do I think he'll be a good president? Probably not. But he'll be a helluva lot better than any of the other three, and maybe even be a catalyst for the dismantling of the establishment network.
There will be no winner. Just more arguing among congress, the people, and the president whomever it is.
That's the spirit!
Actually, I can sort of respect the nihilistic undertones. If posters like this would only take it to the logical conclusion.
Calling Hillary a "leftie" may be the most absurd comment in a totally absurd thread in a totally absurd forum. She used to be a Republican Christ sake (voted for Goldwater) and she's to the right of Obama in nearly every way.
@Ski:
You're truly a suck weirdo, but there's something about your honesty that I admire. At least you don't post about fucking Hillary while hurling insults at her. Yes, lets destroy the environment for future generations, since you don't have any progeny. Good thing, too. We sure don't want your gene pool on planet Earth.
Universal healthcare
A ban on guns
Government payment of higher education
Refusal to acknowledge Radical Islamic Terror
That's just the tip of her LEFTIST iceberg
Let's not forget: She believes herself to be better than the electorate and privileged to all the benefits she would deny the rest of us. Nothing sums up Socialism better than "some animals are more equal than others."
Universal healthcare is the issue that I personally care about the most. Insured Americans are at an all time low, which is a great achievement. However, Obamacare seems to be failing, with big insurers unable to underwrite the sickest Americans. So you might get wish, with Obamacare failing on it's own.
Clinton is for more intelligent universal background checks. Saying she wants to "ban guns" is inflammatory gibberish.
Sort of liked your initial post, @Gamma. However, if you spend any time looking at the Trump campaign and polling data, it's pretty clear that Trump is a bigot, without the patience or intelligence to understand the complexity of some of these issues.
Nothing has changed, except she is older.
She would make a find President.
SJG
Leftists (I tend to avoid the term "liberal", as it used to be a good thing) make the mistake of calling Hillary "conservative" because she is (a) in the pocket of Wall Street and (b) a warmonger. Neither of these is intrinsic to conservatism, and neither precludes her from being a leftist.
Don't like Hillary Clinton , I don't blame you, I don't either, but no fucking way on gods green earth am I voting for this con man.
@25: It could be that Trump simply doesn't want the Democrats to sift through his lengthy returns and pick over them like a vulture over carrion. However, my best hunch is that his returns will show that he's worth much less than he's reported to be worth. For Trump, this would be like pulling down his pants and showing that he has a nano-dick -- more embarrassing than any form of tax fraud.
"Fuck you, I got mine, AKA The American Dream." -or- "I Got Mine. Screw The Rest Of You."
Tune in next week for "a bad eposide of The Rocky and Bullwinkle show" -or- "Skibum explains politics to Millennials."
If I was worth $10B, and a public figure, I'd brag about it. Hell ... I pay Larry's stripper crush and fuck her in front of him. $10B allows you to do a lot. It shows you can do a lot.