Locked down by a whale
larryfisherman
California
I was talking to this dancer, and she said she would prefer being locked down by a whale her whole shift, as opposed to walking the room and getting dances from different customers.
Say on this one night a dancer could make $1,000 for 6 hours locked down by a whale, or walking the room the whole night and making $1,000. Which one do you think most dancers would prefer?
I would think dancers would prefer the walking the room option because the more customers they interact with, the more potential regulars they could have, as opposed to just being tied down with one guy.
Thoughts?
Say on this one night a dancer could make $1,000 for 6 hours locked down by a whale, or walking the room the whole night and making $1,000. Which one do you think most dancers would prefer?
I would think dancers would prefer the walking the room option because the more customers they interact with, the more potential regulars they could have, as opposed to just being tied down with one guy.
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And by extension, most dancers would rather have one, rich, safe, guy, pay all her expenses so that she doesn't have to work at all.
Is it smart for them for ignore the 20 people that want to get dances from them and could potentially be regulars in the future?
At the club I'm at now, I don't have to depend on regulars at all because I can make what they would give me by hustling. But back when I worked at the more upscale clubs on 8 mile, my whales would come in and I would be theirs for the night, and it wasn't nearly as hard of work as working the room. I would sometimes (depending on the club) have them give me money to give the dj to keep me off the stage too. The 8 mile clubs I worked at had good food, so we'd eat dinner, have some drinks, go for dances, more drinks, more dances, and just get drunk and cozy in our booth.
the logic is not there most of the time.
granted, a whale that comes through with the cash is always better than having to work the club.
but, i've watched girls sit with someone for HOURS just to get a $300 VIP.
i find it puzzling that in the time it would take her to earn $300 (30 $10 table dances or 15 $20 couch dances) she's wasting her time kissing up to someone.
Plus, who of us wouldn't rather just hang out and bullshit instead of working.
The old adage is a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. By that standard she would be likely to make $2000 to make turning down a sure $1000 worthwhile.
If she entertains 10 guys with FIV for 10 minutes each and only 3 of them know how to wash their hands first, the resulting smell might limit her to only 1 or 2 guys being willing to spend any money the next night.
If she spent the entire evening with a whale who knew how to wash his hands and got the same $1000, she could be clean and fresh and in demand the next night. Not to mention the 0 rejections getting to the $1000 with a whale compared to 35-50 if she had to work the floor hard the whole night.
Otoh, I'm with joeweber. Why some strippers sit with guys that aren't even whales for so long is mind boggling.
I 100% agree and this irraitates the hell out of me. But there is difference between a whale and a guy with a couple dollars. Whales actually spend money and are probably good for more than whatever she could get out of those 20 guys(remember she's won't get anything out of some of them). I would expect her to ignore everyone else for a true whale. But real whales are rare in strip clubs. Most of these guys are baby whales at most.
Far less work.
By TUSCL's standards I would probably be considered a whale. My girls don't leave my side until I leave. I tell them they're free to walk the room, but they refuse, and they just stay with me. It blows my mind how much potential money they're missing out on. Granted I pay them well, but I don't always spend big.
If I was a stripper and you told me I could make $1,000 walking the room, or $1,000 with one guy, I would choose the 2nd option, because I gotta be a business woman and think about all the potential new regulars I could pick up by walking the room.
Nina- it sounds like you prefer your past clubs to the club you're working at now?
So with all of that said, there is most certainly a great deal of value in locking down a decent take for the night. I've locked girls down for far less, more by default than intent.
Whale OTC (skip the club completely) +3
^^ same spend, though.
^^ assuming the whale is not mentally exhausting.
See also - https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=4…
I strongly prefer the club I'm at now because the earning potential without regulars is much greater.
Whale because:
- $1000 guaranteed vs. no guarantee of anything, she has no idea how much she'll make "walking the room"
- Presumably whale treats her nicely, vs taking shit and getting dances from obnoxious, handsy, drunk, try-to-stick-their-finger-up-her-ass douchebags.
- She blows off that whale one time, the whale will find a new ATF, and she's out her reliable $1000/week from the whale. She's not just out one night. If the whale is anything like me, either she sticks with him when he's there, or he's moving on, it's not like he doesn't have every other stripper in the place competing for his attention.
My other concern is that I'm not sure you can keep going to the same club after dropping a CF... these girls can be catty, I can see one trying to tarnish your reputation.
To answer OP's question, I think most any dancer will go with a whale. Sure thing, less work, etc. I don't think it is necessarily the smartest thing to do long term, but how many dancers think beyond the latest "due" bill.
So called "whale" may be a wealthy out of towner who maybe comes once a month, or maybe 3-4 times per year. Meanwhile, several of those "loser non-whales" may be a reliable once a week (or more) customer. While not spending as much as the whale, they can be counted on for a good chunk of $$ more consistently. Dancers need customers to pick up the slack when the whale isn't in town. If a guy gets too many blue ball nights with a whale dancer, they'll gravitate to alternative dancers on whale night as well as slack nights.
I recall a visit many years ago where Dancer A, and at least 2 other dancers were locked down by 1 guy at a table. All they did was give him a back rub the whole frigging hour or so I was there. No LD's/VIP for that guy. I got maybe 1 mediocre dance before bailing. Several weeks later, I have another trip into town, and Dancer A is almost crying crocodile tears. No Mr. Whale tonight (I never saw him again in the club for the next 5 plus years of regular trips there.) I said, no thanks, I'm going with Dancer B, and C tonight. Karma can be a bitch.
Whale for sure.
But Nina splits her time between whales.
As far as recruiting regulars, recruiting regulars is something women do when they aren't busy.
--Slinks away and hopes no one notices-- :) lol ... Actually most of my trips are in the 3-5 hour range, but I've done some marathon trips that lasted longer. But in most cases, I have my buddies with me; there's only one stripper I've ever done 6-hour-long trips alone with
-->"Then, as some posters have pointed out, dancers can be locked down for much less than $1K. Also that locking down the dancer for a few hours in the club is merely a prelude to interesting things OTC."
Abso-fucking-lutely. On the slow dayshifts I go to, it's very common -- as in, 90+% of my trips -- that I can lock a stripper down for 4 hours for 2 VIPS ($200) plus the cost of food and booze for the two of us ($100). I pity you poor nightshift guys... or rather, you nightshift guys who are poor :)
Maybe this is a bad example, but a visit this week and the ratio of dancers to men was probably 2:1 with only about 6 guys in the club. I'm no whale, but a fav of mine made sure to go to the bathroom when I went and everything. Why? It was a good chance nothing else was going to develop on the floor and probably didn't want another dancer to swoop in.