Getting a willingness stripper that helps you jizz in your shorts is hot...I also love it because it forces you to take breaks to build up sexual energy just so u can pop from dry fucking lol...it also forces you to be picky about the girls..one must need a girl to truly turns you on for this to work....this all helps save money and creates a fun time
It's really fun to jizz at follies because the girls are supper hot and dances are $10
The dancers have told me on occasion that their typical customer spends about $60-100 total per visit. They usually offer this up when they find out how far apart a space my visits in order to budget for them. It might be SS though.
I agree with Dominic77. SS runs all the time. I watch how long they spend in the VIP room and if they are in there awhile, I can determine which hot one I want. I'm rarely surprised, and very much enjoy those young bodies as we play in the VIP
Wait. I should clarify. There are places where you shouldn't jizz, like the middle of a store or restaurant. Or anywhere in view of somebody that doesn't want to watch you jizz. But as long as everybody in the room is ok with you jizzing or you're alone it's all brilliant! :)
Of course this is getting into the sorts of discussions I have had with lapdanceking82.
It isn't wrong, like in a moral sense. You and your dancers are both at least 18yo, so you can do what you want.
But I still see it as a negative thing. The problem is first of all that P4P sex is expensive, and so most of us cannot do that much of it. I see it more as a way of gaining life changing experiences, than just for sexual gratification. It is more about the sexual aesthetic.
And when in San Francisco when I knew the "extras" offering was expensive and there was always the risk of blue balls, and when I questioned their real ability to offer nice FS, time and money wise, I instead have always opted to DATY dancers. They are responsive and it does soften them up. ( and I do a good job of it if I do say so myself ).
But I also go back to what an 'extras' experienced dancer said, "Don't use strip clubs for sexual gratification, as that is perverted."
I take this to mean that it is perverted because of all you are not doing, like having a real sexual relationship.
My time of always being in strip clubs was when I was married, nothing else I could do. But our clubs, being zero mileage, are less expensive. And no ejaculation, just talking and flirting and learning social skills, while admiring lovely girls.
So I think we need to find other ways of meeting our needs than spending lots of money in strip clubs.
There was a time when I was doing AMPs in three counties, and spending lots of money. I was just learning what a head trip it is to be able to window shop and window shop, and then with each girl I found that I liked, get her. And I always approached them as civilians and just made it happen. Never trying to use money to persuade them.
But then finally in San Francisco I decided that what I was doing was silly and pointless, and so for many years I stopped and tried to make my marriage work.
After that I was much more moderate and only occasional.
At a time in the future I plan to be doing lots of strip clubbing and AMPing, and doing as much as possible ITC, and then getting to where I am sleeping with the girls. But I will have the money for this, and mostly it will be a way of making new first time contacts in a new metro. After then after that I won't do it any more in that Metro.
P4P gets instant results. But where you actually live, this should not be necessary.
I've thought through this entire cluster of issues. How do most guys spend their money? Impressing the opposite sex, if not outright paying them. And then after that, placating them by keeping up with the Joneses.
In my organization none of that will be needed at all.
I also enjoy this because it shows me what girls are OK with me cumming and it starts out with $50-$100 LDK meeting ITC and over five to ten sessions it will move to a $200-$400 OTC fuck
I actually need this extra stage to get comfortable with my dancer and her with me before I can really get intimate with real sex...it's just how I work
I understand saving money and sticking to a budget but getting off without social interaction of a women in a social environment just seems empty, unfulfilling, unrewarding. Truly masturbation without the payoff.
If I get that desperate. One: shoot me. Two: sign me up for SJGay's soothing prostate massage instead. Lol.
Really, $5 for a bathroom troll handie? *shudders*. No, really *shudders*.
If you keep it in your shorts and don't get any crap on the sofa or chairs or anything else, I don't care. The dancers and others don't want any of that stuff on them. I certainly do not want to sit on a sticky sofa, chair or run into a dancer with sticky clothes. Since body fluids can be a way to transmit deadly diseases, no stranger wants any contact with any such thing.
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Brother Vincent LMFAO
It's really fun to jizz at follies because the girls are supper hot and dances are $10
And yeah, it's fun when the dancer is actually trying to make your LDK (and seems disappointed when it doesn't happen).
It isn't wrong, like in a moral sense. You and your dancers are both at least 18yo, so you can do what you want.
But I still see it as a negative thing. The problem is first of all that P4P sex is expensive, and so most of us cannot do that much of it. I see it more as a way of gaining life changing experiences, than just for sexual gratification. It is more about the sexual aesthetic.
And when in San Francisco when I knew the "extras" offering was expensive and there was always the risk of blue balls, and when I questioned their real ability to offer nice FS, time and money wise, I instead have always opted to DATY dancers. They are responsive and it does soften them up. ( and I do a good job of it if I do say so myself ).
But I also go back to what an 'extras' experienced dancer said, "Don't use strip clubs for sexual gratification, as that is perverted."
I take this to mean that it is perverted because of all you are not doing, like having a real sexual relationship.
My time of always being in strip clubs was when I was married, nothing else I could do. But our clubs, being zero mileage, are less expensive. And no ejaculation, just talking and flirting and learning social skills, while admiring lovely girls.
So I think we need to find other ways of meeting our needs than spending lots of money in strip clubs.
There was a time when I was doing AMPs in three counties, and spending lots of money. I was just learning what a head trip it is to be able to window shop and window shop, and then with each girl I found that I liked, get her. And I always approached them as civilians and just made it happen. Never trying to use money to persuade them.
But then finally in San Francisco I decided that what I was doing was silly and pointless, and so for many years I stopped and tried to make my marriage work.
After that I was much more moderate and only occasional.
At a time in the future I plan to be doing lots of strip clubbing and AMPing, and doing as much as possible ITC, and then getting to where I am sleeping with the girls. But I will have the money for this, and mostly it will be a way of making new first time contacts in a new metro. After then after that I won't do it any more in that Metro.
P4P gets instant results. But where you actually live, this should not be necessary.
SJG
Best of Count Basie - The Golden Years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbh8tUw…
I've thought through this entire cluster of issues. How do most guys spend their money? Impressing the opposite sex, if not outright paying them. And then after that, placating them by keeping up with the Joneses.
In my organization none of that will be needed at all.
SJG
MJQ MODERN JAZZ QUARTET: LIVE IN JAPAN 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ZWw9X2…
That's the condition I'm looking for when I do this
If I get that desperate. One: shoot me. Two: sign me up for SJGay's soothing prostate massage instead. Lol.
Really, $5 for a bathroom troll handie? *shudders*. No, really *shudders*.
But people have written some greatly concerning stuff about body fluids in these ultra high mileage places in other areas.
SJG
National Railroad Map
http://www.personal.psu.edu/staff/r/p/rp…
http://www.mapsofworld.com/usa/usa-rail-…
http://www.acwr.com/economic-development…
http://www.usa-by-rail.com/
the future
http://www.fra.dot.gov/Page/P0362
Keep in mind I'm long term looking for that OTC GF experience...don't let my short term test confuse you