Are strippers basically hookers?

I'm struggling with what the question here is. Maybe you just wanted to re-live last night by writing about it here. Very cathartic :)

Obviously enough, we can't tell you if you could have been rougher with her or fingered her or whatever. You're going to have to work up the balls to explore this yourself, every stripper has her own personal rules. Perhaps my only advice would be, instinctively it sometimes feel like you should just keep pushing if she doesn't stop you, but after years of doing this, I'm absolutely convinced that building consent and trust get super super far with the girls. Obviously, a girl who will just do anything with anyone may not care either way, but with a girl who makes case-by-case decisions, "is that ok? Can I do it a little harder?" "okay if I touch?" etc. goes very very far, and if she's convinced you won't take the next step until you ask, she's more likely to say yes. Besides being overall the right thing to do, for my personal morals, such as they are.

the fun ones are

For the question you led with, the answer is obviously no.

For the rest, only you are going to know what the vibe was like with the dancer. I saw that you'd stopped by HK in TJ. That's a tough thing to live up to anywhere else. I don't really have a plan about what's going to happen with a dancer. At least one I just met. For any of the stuff you've got in mind, all I would say is try to not surprise a dancer. You can try whatever you want and hope it works.

I don't know how many times I've heard complaints from dancers about guys going too fast. Best case she responds like you want. Worst case you get royally fucked up. Communication works. I can't remember how many times I've just looked a girl in the eyes and told her it was my last night in town (usually true) and let her decide where she wanted to take things. If the vibe is there she'll figure it out.

LOL at whipping your dick out. The only thing that would happen is you getting thrown out of the club.

Some are, some aren't - just like all custies cannot be grouped into the same category, neither can all strippers be grouped together - i.e. there sre custies that it's all about extras and nothing else, and there are custies that are not interested in extras.

IME dancers will usually give you a warning if you do something they don't like (yeah there are the hardcore bitches that will take the opportunity to slam you).

I myself have pushed the envelope many times & has worked more times that I would have thought - not saying that it works most of the time but that it works more thsn I would hsve thought & I've not yet ran into a dancer that has made a scene, the ones not interested in playing have just told me so & I've respected their wishes.

But only one guy out of 100 ever complains about getting an unexpected bj from a decent looking girl and that's only if she asked for a tip.

Strippers and hookers are definitely in the same industry. Some dancers do OTC. Some don't. One favorite doesn't. Another favorite uses her time at the club to develop a OTC customer base so she doesn't have to dance with random strangers at the club. She hit the dancer lottery. She hooked up with a wealthy customer who she dates now so she rarely works at the club anymore.

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Should have figured a discussion title like that would get a lot of comments. Yea maybe I am just trying to relive the moment, this girl was super hot.

I'm a little conflicted, I'm 26 yrs old and I'm fairly good looking, so I feel like I could potentially get a good looking 18 yr old civie girl and have no need for the strip club, but at the same time I've had limited success with civie girls in the past and going to strip clubs and seeing hookers is just 100 times faster and easier.

Yes

Strip-clubs are convenient by offering instant gratification (just add water, w/ water in this case being $$$)

It's not enough to be young and good looking to get a beautiful civie. There is a lot of competition out there and the only thing that will make you stand out is being suave. If you are not suave, join us at the strip club, lol

I have been "suave" for brief periods in my life, which is why I said I've had limited success; a few hookups with some good looking girls. Really depends on my state of mind and state of physical fitness.

But the success is so infrequent, which is why I do join you guys!

@futuretrackstar- I'm 26 like you. I also consider myself not to be a bad looking guy, but for the longest time I wasn't getting the kind of girls I wanted. It all changed when my bank account started up, now I can't keep them off me!

The moral of the story is $$$ rules.

Futuretrackstar. Get to know the girls a little more first before 'getting rough with her' during your first lapdances with her. If she's a clean dancer and you are pushing her boundaries too far during a first dance, she'll think you're a creep and you'll have no chance. If you are young, good looking, move slower, and don't push too hard, she'll probably be more flexible with her boundaries once she knows you better and feels comfortable with you. If she's got a boyfriend though, her boundaries may stay firm. Yesh, and whipping your johnson out won't get you laid, but may get you thrown out face first into the pavement.

Hell, you should of just rapd her with your approach.

Lap dances are so ducking expensive if there are no extras

I certainly don't think that strippers are basically hookers, though I suppose they are closer to the prostitute than the nun end of the spectrum of female sexuality. I treat them with a combination of respect and confidence and am often surprised at how far they let me go during lap dances or, better yet, VIP rooms.

I once had a favorite at a small-town club that had $20 lappers and a semi-private VIP room costing $150 for 30 minutes. After I had gotten lap dances from her a few times, I took her to the VIP room and touched her all over for half an hour -- breasts, back, belly, butt, thighs -- basically everywhere but the coochie. When we were done she thanked me for being such a gentleman! It's a sad commentary on what these girls have to put with that I was considered a gentleman because I didn't try to insert fingers or other body parts into any of her orifices.

I second mrdeuces comment. I have gotten the "thank you for being such a gentlemen" line a few times.

A dancer will just suck your money out if you let her. A hooker will suck you off. It's your choice.

Are strippers just hookers? Well lots of people on this board use the term strippers to mean hookers. Because of this I try to avoid using the term "strippers". I treat all women as civilians.

As far as what might have happened between you and this girl, who knows. Lap dancing used to mean lap sitting. If you feed her money and engage with her in the front room, it is more flexible. Don't let her "sell dances" to you. Save booths and back rooms until actually needed.

SJG

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They are all whores.

We have gone pretty slow with our current fav and it has gotten better and better everytime we have gone to vip but we have had no regular lap dances from her and it has gone from hardly touching to touching everywhere. But you must take it slow in my opinion with some girls. Others however would put my hands where they wanted them right off the bat. But don't go crazy and just think you can do whatever you want because your paying her.

Douchester is charming as always. LOL

As it's been said, some are and some aren't. I've met girls where I went from just meeting them to extras in 10 minutes and I've also met girls who I've known for months, if not years, and never had extras or OTC.

Heed to Mr Deuce's advice and you will do fine!

Is she willing to please your dick with the insides of her body (mouth, pussy, ass)? There's a yes and a no to this so not all strippers are whores.

The dancer always chooses.

if there is genuine lust and passion shared by the dancer and the customer... then it is not an act if selling sex. you would still tip her for her time. on the other hand if she offers a menu up front... then it is sex for sale.

MrDouche has subhuman intelligence. Lol!

FTS, the umbrella term for strippers and hookers is "sex worker", which covers a very wide variety of participants in the game of exchanging money or other value for various sex-oriented services. While all strippers entertain by showing some skin for money, not all strippers fuck for money. Conversely, all hookers fuck for money, and many don't bother trying to entertain.

BTW, I agree with Dougster, sex workers are all whores. But being a whore isn't such a bad thing. Many sex workers wear the whore label with pride. As they should. Whores are needed in this world, just as we need people who do all kinds of other WORK.

^^^^^^^^^^^ YES!

Being able to be open and non-judgemental about people is a real gift. When I first observed this in the ones I call, the "Beloved Latina Escorts", I knew what a treasure they were.

SJG

I guess it never occurs to these guys to ask a few questions. I find that open communication forestalls duds and leads to more miles per dollar. This encounter is based on assumption without any confirmation. Stop living in your head and get what you want.