Overcharging Dancer
rogertex
Texas
She is a cut above the rest.
Do you accept because she's what you need?
Or Do you decline because it violates your principles?
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She is a cut above the rest.
Do you accept because she's what you need?
Or Do you decline because it violates your principles?
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I have overpaid sometimes because she's what I need and "oh well" she wants more. A bit of Free enterprise.
I have declined because I don't like the general practice of over-charging. Just like I have been side-sweeped by "raining" whales - and feel the pain - I get sensitive not to price out fellow gentlemen. On the principle of discouraging price gouging - I decline. A bit of Brotherhood Camaraderie.
Some strip clubs are like the Piggly Wiggly and have signs to tell management you were overcharged.
Others operate as true independent contractors and charge what the market will bear.
What kind of club was this. If Bag Boy Jsmes works there - I already know the answer
But the per dance price is the dance price. You get to decide if her dances are worth more than everyone else's, not the other way around. If she can't accept that, then she doesn't get any of my money.
Having said this part deux, I have on occassion capitulated b/c my PL curiosity has gotten the best of me.
IME often times dancers that claim/think they're the shit hardly ever are, but SCs are like a box of chocolates ...
I'd say give her a try if you really find her desirable, the cost of one dance is often the cost of doing SC-biz, she's either worth if or she's not & you didn't really lose much & had your curiosity satisfied, IMO.
In real life, I think I've said "no" to these girls 100% of the time, or nearly so. It works directly against my interest to encourage such behavior, and based on reviews (back when there was a local review site), these girls rarely fail to disappoint. There's almost always another girl who charges the going price and is willing to work to earn any extra tip she makes.
Then again, this isn't a situation I run into in my main clubs, where I tend to sit with a girl for an easy 45 minutes to an hour before we do our first VIP. I've NEVER been asked for more than the going rate at my "home" clubs, and I've been going there for 7 years now. But it's probably the case that a girl who is willing to sit with me for 45 minutes, without any pre-existing promise of an eventual payoff, is not that kind of hustler, anyway. And if she were -- hell, the moment she says to me "my VIPs cost $120", well, she will have wasted the previous hour because I'm just not going for it, and I stop trusting her the moment that comes out of her mouth . I have heard these kinds of things in some of the other clubs I go to, where the girls won't ever sit around that long.
I'm like Papi and GMD - depending on the state of my PL-ness I yield sometimes - but mostly pass on principle. Don't wanna run up the "price of pussy", as Shadowcat states.
Shark, I can't argue with that ... I just feel like a simple time vs benefits isn't the whole story. I really think there are two other things to keep in mind:
1. Rewarding a girl who charges more works against your own self-interest in the long term. I guarantee you the other girls know what she's charging and are watching whether guys pay it. The only saving grace is that usually, it's the best-looking girls who pull this, so it's out of reach of most of the others...
2. But that brings up the other problem, and that is, it seems like the girls who charge more in this way are always doing it on the basis of looks, never on service -- in fact, as I said above, based on the no-defunct review boards, it was nearly a LOCK that you'd be underwhelmed by the service these girls give.
I'll add to that the empowering feeling of telling an incredibly hot but over-entitled girl "no", and you have some stronger motivations to think about, other than just time vs benefits IMO. It would be a different story if I found out one of these price-uplifters actually did it because her service was that much better than everyone else's...
Usually, I go in with a budget, so how the dancer prices dances is a big factor in how long we spend together. If she is doing 2-for-1s the whole time, I would normally spend twice as long getting dances rather than e.g., setting a limit of 4 dances regardless of price. It is also a pretty nice incentive to stay with that dancer and look for her on return visits.
If everything about a dancer, including the price of her dances, says she would rather be anywhere else, that's not exactly a recipe for a good experience. I have had it work out to counteroffer though - sometimes after she worked the floor for a while and came back because no one else was biting, either. The negotiated price would usually stick for future visits, too, as long as I asked would it be $x again?
Someone posted the other day that a dancer quoted a higher price, but her dances were much better than what the others were offering. If a dancer's front room approach made it pretty clear that would be the case, I would counteroffer a lower amount, but maybe take her up on it. It is a big maybe, though, and would depend not only how she rated compared to the girls in the club I was in, but also to the talent at other clubs in driving distance.
That is EXACTLY what I expect. Charging more is an automatic tipoff that you're about to receive lower service. Not all the time, but it's a flashing yellow light
-->"Someone posted the other day that a dancer quoted a higher price, but her dances were much better than what the others were offering. "
Then it definitely becomes more of a discussion... just not always easy to get g-2 in advance that her dances are worth the uplift
There have been several times when dancers try to charge me more after the dances. I refuse and just pay the going rate and the fact that they tried to overcharge me killed any possibility of them getting a tip then or any future business from me.
I missed that, who's that?
Asking for more than the club rate isn't overcharging though. Overcharging would be demanding more than agreed somehow. What your describing is more having higher than usual rates. Whatever you call it, I don't mind isolated cases of it too much, but if it becomes the norm it can get annoying. I'm seeing a lot of that at Tootsies and now Diamond Dolls down here. It really kills my mood when I'm chatting with a girl for a while and then get hit with higher than expected rates for dances or rooms. Particularly so if I've bought a drink or two.
Exactly. This is the hot-girl equivalent of the front-door vulture tactic. The front door vultures -- every club has them -- are the girls who have no regulars but who grab guys very shortly after they come in the front door, offering to take them on a tour or whatever. Those girls can make serious bank, they basically specialize in getting disoriented guys (especially newbies) who just walked in, swiftly into the back. The guys always come back out looking unhappy, but the front door vulture is already on to the next group of guys. We veterans don't ever go with them, because their reviews are uniformly shit or outright ROB. But the girls have a brilliant hustle for disoriented newbies who just walked in the door.
Anyway, these girls who charge an uplift aren't front door specialists, they're girls who are so hot that they can charge guys more and get away with it ... even though, in most cases, service is sub-par or at best unexceptional. Given their hotness, if they were a little more customer-service oriented, they'd bank, but they're not interested in that ... they're just interested in being paid more for their mediocre efforts, because they're prettier than most girls.
Anyway, two types of hustles I avoid
She told her guy to sit back in the sofa and don't be afraid and not to move. She ran across the lap dance room and did a flying flip landing her head upside down on the sofa right in front of the guys crotch. One mistake and it might have been painful. Priobably scared the guy. Lol.