Fun in the Western U.S.

denver is fun but the best clubs are clean ime. phoenix sounds like fun. portland and LA have a shit ton of strip clubs. if theres really no strip clubs worth the time within a reasonable distance where you live these all sound like good options. fuck vegas though. in particular, sapphire. im a man of principal and on principal alone i wont do vegas strip clubs anymore because they are one of if not the biggest tourist attrations in the country and as a result, the strip clubs only care about getting you to pay outrageous cover fees and buy mandatory overpriced drinks w/o the dancers and staff feeling the need to provide the experience. palomino is ok though, maybe because its off the strip. i say skip vegas and do any of the other cities you mentioned.

Las Vegas is a one of a kind place, and yes most of the accounts of it are negative.

Many people do enjoy Portland and Phoenix.

Many people like the City of Industry and San Gabriel Valley area of the Greater LA Metro.

I should clarify that I have yet to be at these places, only having been to San Francisco and San Jose area clubs. I also spend lots of time in AMPs ( Asian Massage Parlors ).

Many people really love Tijuana and consider it to be the heavenly paradise on earth.

I do hope to be at all the places we have mentioned. We have members here who club regularly at each of them, so with some patience and reading you should be able to find out what you want to know.

Good luck, and welcome to TUSCL

SJG

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Yeah - Phoenix sounds like a good option - Albuquerque, NM is also not too bad if I remember correctly from other's comments.

LA def has a lot of clubs

Butte, Montana has quite a history.

In the late 1800's it was home to hundreds of prostitutes. It was said Butte had the best looking whores in the West, even better than San Francisco. And the Dumas Brothel was the longest running brothel in the US, only closing in the 1980's.

There is a place in Tuscon which some people like too.

It would help if instead of asking for generic club recommendations, if you specify what you want.

1. Show Club
2. Dive with cheap and easy women and racially mixed
3. Place really set up for FS on site

All such places exist, as testified to by zillions of posts from our members.

SJG

I don't hate Vegas clubs but I'm in the minority.

Phoenix would be my choice then probably LA.

I agree with Phoenix followed by LA.

As someone who lives in Phoenix I would recommend coming here. Many good clubs to choose from for different tastes and mileage.

Flying into San Diego and going across to Tijuana is also a good option. Hang on the beach, go to TJ and bang some hot Hispanic chicks then return to the beach and repeat the next day!

I am curious why you feel the need to conceal where you live.

"I am curious why you feel the need to conceal where you live."

Because it's east of the 5 fwy...duh

Phoenix is my favorite west coast strip club destination.

If you're clubbing and can go a little further east, I'd try Dallas and also Detroit.

I know Detroit is quite a haul but they have plenty of casinos too so you can hit up both of your vices.

COI never disappoints. But unlike Vegas there is nothing much else for tourists to do in that area.

I'm kinda curious too why the big secret to mention at least what state your in.

Unless we have another psycho like Troop, why worry?

"the West" is a big freakin' area.

If you're used to Vegas, you may be shocked how cheap other cities are.

I mean fuck, I live on Motorhead's couch and I'm not afraid to tell people where I live!!!!

Thanks for some awesome recommendations. I think I'm settling on Phoenix, based on these and other posts. In particular the so called Hi Liter.

To answer SJG's question, I don't participate in OTC, so I don't need a club that has a reputation for that. I'm no saint, I just use separate avenues for that. By and large I just like petite, young blondes. I like to spend a few hours at the rail for a good show, periodically peeling off for dances/VIP with anyone that fits the above description. I usually will spend $1-2k per trip (I know, get a life), but because of that I go less frequently than the weekly/bi-weekly trips I see others do. I just like to leave the club having had dances from 10+ girls. Variety revs my engine.

I haven't hated Vegas, it's fun. I don't really like Saphire, Spearmint was only slightly better. Little Darlings was ok, but I have had a hell of a time at Palomino. I only go there when in Vegas now. Best I've been to. Oh, LD's/Palomino make me realize I like FULLY NUDE. I should have mentioned that important part. Topless just doesn't do it for me.

Here are my thoughts,

Phoenix, Dallas, Portland, Tijuana, CIO/LA, Tucson and Albuquerque, El Paso,

I had a great time in an Albuquerque club twice in the last couple of weeks. And I met a Phoenix dancer in that Albuquerque club -- she traveled over for the holiday weekend. I always love meeting HiLiter girls in other clubs.

Also, ask those Vegas dancers if they actually live/dance elsewhere and are only in town for work. You might find multiple girls in Vegas who you could see in their hometown clubs.

Well you're not going to like Phoenix because all the good clubs are topless only. If you like young petite blondes there are a ton in Phoenix though.

Good nude dances: City of Industry, Tampa Bay, Atlanta, [the best]: Toronto & Montreal

Well damn, didn't know Phoenix didn't have nude. Now I think maybe I'll just try it anyway. Maybe the look of g-strings not being on the floor will grow on me.

A friend of mine is going to Montreal for work in a month. I asked if I could tag along; he agreed. He and I will hang at night, but I'll have all day to myself. Is there any action during the day? This particular friend cannot find out about my extracurriculars.

... He's going to Toronto a few weeks after that, and then a slew of cities in Canada over the next few months, each separated by a few weeks. I'll be anxious to see which might be worth visiting. I'll just have to pay for a flight as I can stay in his hotel that's paid for by his company.

When you say nude you mean nude stage dancing or nude lap-dancing - or both?

BTW $1k - $2k seems like a lot to spend - that kinda $$$ will probably go a lot further in non-Vegas areas like Phoenix.

I suggest a trip to Albuquerque during the Balloon Fiesta. Take in the Balloon Fiesta in the morning and or evening, strip club during the day. You can have a good time at TD's North for the kind of money you want to spend and if you visit repeatedly over several consecutive days it will only get better.

Papi_Chulo, I guess I'm referring to both stage and during private dances. I like when they spread those cheeks up on the stage... but also when you've got the balloon knot/star fish/choose your own name for it, pointing right at your forehead during a private dance.

There are all nude places in Phoenix but the type of dancer you like are a little harder to find at those places. Not impossible but it might be difficult.

Vancouver is expensive yet for choice of hot young Asians without law enforcement checking in on the action, it's the best during a hot summer! Phoenix can be hot so sometimes it's slim pickings during the heat.

My own view is that going to out of town strip clubs is for business travelers, as I will be in not too much more time.

Otherwise you can get better results in your hometown clubs, even if that town is Vegas. There are lots of places in Vegas and lots of girls you can get to know.

SJG

SJG, did you get a job as a traveling gravy salesman? Are you going to take the gay guy with you on business trips?

Expecting to be on the road, not selling anything, at least not exactly.

Lots to see. On the road is where TUSCL becomes important. If it's just the hometown clubs, you can find out yourself.

But if our OP lives in Vegas, he can find what he wants.

SJG

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I don't live in Vegas, I fly there. I only chose Vegas because I'm familiar with the city from years of gambling trips. I've been gambling for about 10+ years, clubbing for just over 1. Closest clubs to me I guess would be Salt Lake City. I've never been, but heard that you truly shouldn't bother.

Reno, Denver, Albuquerque, depending on what side of Salt Lake City you live on. Not sure how many members we have clubbing in Salt Lake City.

Do you want a show club, or a dive? Mixed race? Do you want what in any other country would be called a brothel?

No matter how bad the clubs are in Salt Lake City, as a regular you should be able to start seeing girls outside. After that the clubs don't make much difference.

SJG

A little closer to show club than dive, but doesn't have to be over the top. I don't need anything that resembles a brothel. I mostly like blondes, but not totally exclusive.

Well, to me, though not having been there, that sounds like Vegas.

People familiar with Salt Lake City want to chime in?

Timothy, would you be willing to tell us your second closest city, after Salt Lake? We will probably have people familiar with their clubs.

SJG

Yeah... it would be Vegas.

The places that I want to check out in Vegas, are what Lopaw calls the eclectic clubs, and the dives and quasi brothels too. Say, Talk of the Town, Chicas Bonitas, Club Platinum, Club Lacey, and maybe Girls of Glitter Gulch.

But it is still going to be a while for me. We have lots of Vegas experts here. They should be able to help you find what you want.

SJG

So you reviewed this Sapphire Gentlemen's Club.

How would you want to see that club improved?

And are your concerns about the looks of the girls? The ITC ( in the club ) mileage? The costs? Issues about getting girls outside of the club?

We have people here who I know will know about these issues in Vegas.

SJG

Oh I've done my fair share of Vegas. In fact, I have some reviews I need to write. I've mastered Vegas. Being single, with no one to account to, I have on occasion decided to book a plane ticket around 4-5 PM, on a whim during a boring Friday afternoon, flown in to Vegas by 9:30, cabbed over to my club of choice, clubbed til the wee hours and then taken the 8 am flight back. The spontaneity adds a bit to the rush of the whole experience.

So what are you looking for in strip clubs that you aren't already getting?

SJG