Hypothetical (I don’t believe we have ever asked a hypothetical question b/f on
Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
If only given 2-choices:
1) nude air-dance
2) clothed 2-way-contact dance
(dancer looks are the same in both cases)
I’d choose 2 – what say you say?
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I would go for the contact. But better I would just get her onto my lap and start making out with her.
SJG
I think that your gonna find #2 the clear choice.
But because of this we have nudity. All made more visual. Not common in 3rd world countries, even ones with the most casual of attitudes towards prostitution.
But touching, interactive, is better.
In some hostess bars, there is a great deal of touching which does go on. Best of course if the hostesses don't wear bras.
Like I say, the best is a full on makeout session.
Full nudity and FS can be done offsite. Interactions are more GFE if the girl lets you undress her in stages, than if she just undresses herself in front of you.
SJG
'san_jose_gay' is an impersonation troll. Please read carefully.
Sexy attire needs to be thought of in this light too, like a two stage foreplay scenario.
SJG
SJG
Exactly! Those that don't allow nude 2-way-contact dances don't love our planet.
SJG
SJG
Unless I can hypothetically add #3 nude and full contact! #3 = triple brilliant! ;)
IDK - DaOnion might break that myth
:)
SJG
I wonder if ricktheturtle ever runs the dead turtle system!
1. Instant sex, nothing to take off.
2. Delayed sex after intensive makeout and feel up session.
3. As above, but with FOV/FIV too.
SJG
1. Instant sex, nothing to take off.
2. Delayed sex, after intensive makeout and covered feel up session.
3. As above, but with FOV/FIV too.
4. As above, but with titty access too.
SJG
SJG
1. Letting girls sell dances to you is a chumps game.
2. Get friendly with your girl in the front room, makeout with her. Feed her money, and there should be no house cut.
3. Save the backroom until your own pants are going to come down.
4. If she talks about kissing instead of kissing, shine her on.
SJG
Without being rude, the problem is, 95% of strippers are not going to sit in your lap and make out with you in the front room. Maybe in an AMP or an underground Mexican hat dancing circuit, but not in a strip club.
If you can figure out a way to get over 50% of the dancers to make out with you in the front room, please post the SJG system and I'm sure more people will pay attention to what you have to say.
Just being honest.
Just kidding SJG
As far as what strippers will or won't do, and in what sorts of clubs, we have some info. Much of it just comes down to the selection process, you picking the girl and softening her up some, and then proceeding, as well as being good to her with the money. And also it just comes down to what sort of a club it is, like FS, and how open and blatant it is, and how competitive the girls are with each other.
So based on posts about Tijuana, GREEN LIGHT, almost impossible to avoid.
Based on reviews of USA Black Dives of the most extreme FS type, blackstripclubs.net, GREEN LIGHT, almost impossible to avoid. The women want results!
Based on private communications about USA Mixed Race Dives, mostly the same as the Black Dives, and for the same reason.
About San Jose AMPs, in the session room, often. About the more blatant San Francisco AMPs, much more common. But you do have to charm the girl some and it helps if you can flirt with her in the selection process and if you can dress nice to impress her.
About the San Jose underground Mexican Bar circuit, that is against the rules, but it still happens. Like in the Sunnyvale clubs which are no touching, almost anything can happen if the girl wants you for OTC.
We have had lots and lots of posts about front room makeout sessions, and also about girls who were so aggressive that if the guy wanted that, they probably would have gone along with it as that is the way to make it happen.
In AAMPs it is standard.
Much of it just comes down to how you orchestrate it.
Not too much more time before I'll be on the road, visiting all such places and making it happen. I've had girls in SC's and AMP's who insist, "I don't kiss", demonstrably reverse themselves and let go completely.
And then we have TUSCL members who insist, no front room makeout, no backroom.
So I think it is just a matter of learning how to orchestrate it, plus being selective about what sorts of places you go to.
And then once you've got a good one, keep seeing her regularly and fucking her in your own bed.
And as far as a system, this is what I am describing, except that there is a kind of art too it.
And I can say first hand that there are some social situations where you can just walk up to a girl you have never even spoken with before and take her into your arms and DFK her.
SJG
No front room makeout, no backroom:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
No dances until front room makeout:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
SJG
I know you want to believe it's possible, so do what Journey says. Don't stop believin.
In San Francisco girls that insisted they did not kiss demonstrably reversed themselves. And then there was that extremely cute black girl that I was going to dog some and then invite to lunch, but she ducked into to New Century.
In AMPs Viet fashion plates had been competing for my attention and auditioning to be my mistress. They would dress for me and then demonstrate that their GFE is the best.
And then as described in detail on blackstripclubs.net, there are front room only clubs of the most extreme type. And there was our own Mexican Bar circuit, and then much was written about this front room only Cha Cha's in Chicago which does sound similar.
I'm gentle and easy with girls, and verbally I usually do make a good impression on most of them right off. And then the fact that I pick the girl myself carries a great deal of weight.
Still here, involved in politics, but in not too much more time I'll be on the road, seeking out the dives of dives, and making hooker girlfriend after hooker girlfriend.
SJG
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Based on what Jestrite50 says, the results are much better than 50%, more like 90%.
This would be with feeding them money, but more comparable to what it would be in the dance booth. And remember there will be no house cut. The point of the front room is that you have not committed to anything and so you can lead it. It is a more flexible interaction, like I used to always get with front room fun in the Mexican Bar table dancing circuit.
Once you, "buy a dance", you have to let the girl lead it. So don't do that until she is in extreme makeout / heavy petting with you, and it is time for your own pants to come down.
As far as "traditional US strip clubs", why the hell would anyone want that?
I mean for one thing, in traditional US strip clubs girls have to deal with guys who rate them on a 1-10 scale and who treat them like FemBots who sell 'extras' for money. So of course they have had to learn how to take advantage of the situation.
And of course you should be able to see that because I do not treat them this way, I often get GFE saturated in situations where that is not the norm.
Traditional US Strip Clubs? Hell no.
How do we get Hong Kong Bar Quality:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
SJG
I'm not sure where you club but in Ohio there are lots of clubs where front room lap sitting and make out sessions are common. Best club for this is the Harem in Dayton Ohio also many of the clubs around ohio not only permit it but condone it.
So she can't take off her bra or g-string while she's with me. Exactly, what problem does this law solve??!?
Given the price difference between #1 and #2, $15 dollars per song I mostly stick with #1 at places that allow touching with table dances. Best of both worlds.