Dressing nice
larryfisherman
California
Forgive me if this is a dumb question.
From what you've seen, do customers get attention from the dancers if they rock like a tie and dress shirt? As opposed to just dressing casual? Does dressing nice signal to the dancer that maybe that guy has money?
From what you've seen, do customers get attention from the dancers if they rock like a tie and dress shirt? As opposed to just dressing casual? Does dressing nice signal to the dancer that maybe that guy has money?
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But I went to the Heck school of weed smoking and dead head fashion. So I typically go in shorts, tshirt, and flip flops. My dress presents no problems, and least not once the girls see the color of my money.
As far as getting attention, I have a sure-fire, multi-pronged strategy, that leads to exactly the kind of experience I love:
- Go during the slow shifts, where it's a buyer's market, not a seller's market. When strippers outnumber PLs 3-to-1, I guarantee you you'll get the attention you want. Hell, I even double-down on this strategy: I like to go during the SLOWEST PART of the slowest shifts. 7pm-10pm Tuesday night? Check. 1pm-4pm Monday afternoon? Check.
- Go to the same place often, where if you spend well, you'll get an enduring reputation among the girls, who'll lightly compete to be at your table. Hey, a regular flow of $ during the deadest parts of the shifts? They're in.
A note on "spending well". There's that old joke about the two hikers who run into a bear. The first hiker starts putting on his running shoes, and the second hiker says, "what are you doing, you won't outrun that bear." The first hiker responds, "I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun you." Well, in general, to stand out, you don't have to outswim the whale -- you just have to outswim the schlubby PLs who are there. $200 over 3 hours can be a fortune for a girl during 1pm-4pm Monday dayshift (when most other strippers there might get a few lapdances at most), whereas no saturday night girl is going to sit still for $200 for 3 hours. Those guys are all wearing horrible gray slacks and bad-fitting shirts -- you'll stand out in whiskered dark well-fitting jeans and a well-fitted shirt. No tie or suit or anything else needed.
Yeah I'm having trouble getting attention. I tip the girls generously on stage, but none of them come sit by me after their stageset, they go to other people. It's almost like they will try going to everybody else before me. I don't know if it's because I'm young, and they assume I have no money? I don't know if it's because the way I dress?
I'm gonna try wearing a tie and dress shirt on my next visit and see if there's a difference.
Try a polo shirt (aka golf shirt), crisp dress slacks, and some clean shoes.
^That should get you attention in most any club.
The only thing the ladies ask is that we have clean, soft clothes.
As a black guy, if you wear glasses, I would bring them. It "takes the edge off" if you know where I'm coming from. It fits the look of the spending black demographic (professional black guy).
Also if you start buying dances ... the other ladies on the shift will quickly see that you are a spending customer and should approach or be willing to approach when asked.
What is your primary strip club city? I'm black, 31, and SC in Tucson mostly and from my experiences I have had more mileage/fun/better dances/GFE with the Hispanic/Mexican girls. There have been one or two white ones that made themselves noteworthy too. Both types have approached me, but the Hispanic/Mexicans the most. So, it may slightly matter with race. Do you think you're giving off a thug vibe? I haven't seen that work too highly in favor for anybody unless of course they've come to know who you are.
As far as dress, I'd recommend khakis and polo shirt or button down shirt. And go with a light color with the polo shirt. Plus wearing cologne is nice.
I find it crazy they dont come by after a $40 stage tip. Are you making it rain or putting $20s in their gstring? Do they see that you put the $20 or $40 there? Be sure they see and as others have mentioned ask them to stop by after their stage set. $40 is alot, but sometimes they still choose otherwise for whatever reason. I've purposely tipped more than the other guy(s) before only for her to go and be with one of them. It happens.
That said, never went to 4Play or any of the Hollywood clubs either, those clubs are for white/Asian tourist with lots of money to burn. They figure your $300/$400 harder to get than the other guys $900/$1000 (and more) dollars.
So go to a smaller market club would be my guess for you. I did very well at Dames n Games. And obviously some if the COI clubs (mostly Hispanics, but white girls too)
@s88- I wear jeans, and the grind still feels pretty good to me.
Thanks for the insight twentyfive.
@GACA- yeah I've been doing 4 Play and Bare Elegance. I'm gonna start trying some more "urban clubs".
Subraman makes a good point, as long as you are willing to accept say shift options.
The truth is - the clothes should fit the club. Been to Manhattan clubs where everyone was in expensive suits - and I've been to byob clubs in Pa where a suit will make you stand out in a less than good way.
I totally agree about going when it's slow.
For shirts; when we go clubbing I usually wear one of my tighter polo shirts. Just like mrs sea likes dressing sexy for me I like showing off for her too. i like when the sleeves are tight on my arms so it really shows my biceps and I like to think it lets the dancers easily see that I'm fit and don't have a beer gut or anything. If I wore one of my baggier shirts it makes me feel like I was trying to cover up excess weight. I used to weigh about 60lbs more than I do today and that's EXACTLY why I had the baggy polo shirts. Sometimes I wear a button down.
I only own 5 pairs of shoes. Dressy black ones I wear maybe once every other year for something fancy when mrs sea tells me I HAVE to wear them. Nice pair of brown dress doc martins that i've had for ages. Work boots. Pair of vasque trail running shoes for working out. But my every day shoe and what I wear to clubs is my pair of vasque backpacking boots.
She takes 2 hours to get ready and it takes me 10 minutes...lol
Cargo pants...check
Polo or button down...check
Boots...check
Hair down...check
Time for titties
I've been to Manhattan clubs where it's all fancy suits - and that's the norm. I've also been to clubs where a suit would make you a definite mark (as DandyDan mentions).
No shame in my gi-zame homie.
If you look "black" and are going to clubs where young black men are not receiving as much attention, I'd use the suggestion given before and get a pair of glasses, even if you don't need them. Get a clear glass pair. :)
Then just cover-up the black half – presto!
:)
As others have mentioned – in SC bizarro-world being young (and even good-looking) may often times count against you – I started clubbing when I was 30 and looked younger than my age and throughout my early/mid 30s in certain clubs (more upscale ones) I would often get walked right past to the older guy next to me.
Yeah – if you go dressed like a rapper wannabee good chance this fits the profile of many a young guy that do not spend $$$ in strip-clubs and the type many dancers in certain clubs will avoid.
Also – one’s facial expression – I have eyesight issues from birth and thus very poor eyesight and tend to kinda squint or really have to force my eyes thus giving me a look as if I’m angry – thus perhaps if you are young, dressed sorta like a gangbanger; and have a serious facial-look that kinda comes across as “don’t fuck with me”; this may also be a problem – i.e. smile and make eye-contact if you don’t already do so.
And if all else fails – def be proactive – in a club w/ lots of fi$h it’s harder to stand-out; so grab a dancer’s attention as she walks by – e.g. ask “hi are you busy?” and this can often help.
In the clubs in which one is a regular I doubt that it matters. They know that you have money. I know that it doesn't in mine.
In places where you aren't known, my experience is that it can make a big difference. I have even tested the theory in clubs in 3 or 4 different cities by showing up 1 night casual and another night in my work clothes. Seriously, on the dressed up nights, girls that walked by me multiple times on the casual nights would stop, introduce themselves and ask if it was my first time in the club - lol. I won't pretend to understand why this happens or the assumptions in play, but as a traveling club hound with limited time at my disposal, I'll use all of the tools at my disposal.