Dancer Drinks

I understand the resentment at drink hustle clubs, especially where a dancer drink ends up some no-alcohol juice that costs you $15. And beyond that, it's annoying to be treated liike a mark at every turn, which is the way they often make you feel.

I haven't been in a drink hustle club in many many years, but from the comfort of my keyboard,it seems to me like this is another case where a lot of what guys are feeling is self-inflicted. The waitress is counting on you conflating this situation with a "real date" kind of thing, and of course you feel like a cad refusing a drink for "the lady" (and believe me, she's no lady, or I wouldn't have picked her). But why is this any more difficult than telling the waitress, No thanks, I'll let you know if I change my mind", and then turning to the stripper and telling her "I'd rather spend my money on dances with you, than overpriced drinks to the club" OR "I sent her away just because I didn't know if you wanted anything, and don't need her standing here... Want to do two shots of vodka?" Etc Etc.

Maybe if I actually went to one of these clubs I'd understand, but right now, I can't understand why you'd feel the slightest bit uncomfortable dismissing the waitress out of hand, just like at any other bar or restaurant where you don't want anything, and then turning to the stripper and explaining yourself or working out which drinks you'll order so that you don't end up buying her a $30 drink without knowing it, etc

Clubs need a way to make money. Otherwise we won't have them.

SJG

I have no problem saying no to a dancers request for a drink if I have no interest in pursuing that woman. However if a dancer has my interest I'll gladly buy her a drink. I recently raised my eyebrows when a dancer got 3 shots of Patron on my nicole, but she had my dick as a chaser which made it perfectly all right.

In my club dancer drinks are $5 and I watch them make the drink at the bar, so it's not expensive and I know its not just fruit juice.

There is a very easy solution to the problem of a waitress who appears asking you to buy a dancer a drink. Whether this happens at your table, as the VIP starts, or whatever, this shouldn't be a problem. First, I avoid clubs that pull this scam so it very rarely comes up for me. But if I find myself in such a club, the solution is simple. If you don't want to buy a drink, say no. What I usually say is "I use my money to buy dances rather than to buy drinks that the dancers don't really want." The waitress will just walk away surprised that she finally met a customer with some balls who knows how to say no. And the dancer won't give a shit that you're not paying money to the club for drinks if you're spending it on her for dances.

This doesn't mean that I never buy dancers drinks. I buy dancers drinks, food, weed, whatever they want if I'm into them, if we're having fun, and if I think they genuinely want it, then I'll buy them whatever they want within reason. But if they don't want it, or you don't want to buy it, just say no. Only guys who don't understand strip clubs can be coerced into buying drinks for dancers that they don't want to buy.

This post got me thinking - and this might sound very stupid - but could a club with free drinks actually do well? When I think about casinos and the way you get free drinks while gambling, I was thinking, if you are buying dances, could a club stay in business by providing free booze? I don't know if it would be top shelf or just mid tier liquor.

^sure. Some clubs have high drink charges and or high cover charges / door charges. If it's a nude club, they could easily get away with it (no alcohol).

Although, I'm going to be selfish here. If the choice is being paying a higher door charge or me paying a VIP wristband charge (essentially another "door charge" X2) or the dancers losing a bigger percentage cut of their dances versus guys like the OP who can't say no, thereby subsidizing me and people like me who can say no. Well, suddenly I don't feel bad. ;). Amirute? ;)

The club has to make money some how.

In all seriousness, I think they should just raise the damn door charge for everyone. My 2¢.

@Subraman I just find it irksome when you old folk justify the constant nagging by saying "it's called being a gentleman". Being haggered into buying a potential hoe a drink isn't nothing like being a gentleman. Its called being handled (and tiresome). Not everyone wants to waste the money they saved for dances on liquor they're not even drinking. if we really wanted to be gentlemanly, we wouldn't go to a strip club to do it. There are no "ladies" there, just tramps looking for a buck.

I have no problem telling these annoying ass waitresses no with no tone in my voice. Unfortunately they have a bad habit of cropping back up every 30 minutes no matter how blatant you are.

I say no a lot or that I already ordered from another waitress. I am not lying when I say I already ordered though. Sometimes a waitress has brought back the drink I ordered from another waitress. I simply tip whoever brings me the drink. I almost instinctively say no to any waitress who asks if I want to buy a dancer a drink and she just literally sat down next to me in the last 2 minutes and it doesn't matter who she is. Well if it was someone really hot, I might have second or third thoughts. I heard guys don't think rationally when they see something that sexually excites them because it is super pretty.

The other exception is I know the dancer and we are like friends and I know she's going to sit and talk awhile.

Tiburon-->"@Subraman I just find it irksome when you old folk justify the constant nagging by saying "it's called being a gentleman"."

Well, I can certainly see why old folk would irk you. But you must be mixing up your old guys -- I didn't say "it's called being a gentleman", and in fact, would never use such a douchey phrase. Nor did I say anything about "Being haggered(sic) into buying a potential hoe a drink isn't nothing like being a gentleman". In fact, the entire point of my post was that you should just tell the waitress "no thanks", and not confuse your VIP with a "real date", so no reason to feel bad.

Tiburon-->"There are no "ladies" there, just tramps looking for a buck."

So, you're basically saying the same thing I did? " (and believe me, she's no lady, or I wouldn't have picked her)" Are you sure you were replying to me? Or replying to something you imagined I said?

@Cashman: there are quite a few clubs here in PA that give beer away for free to avoid liquor license issues.

@Dominic: first of all IMO this wasn't about not being able to say no, it's the overhead of having to deal with it. Second, at least in the club I'm mainly referring to, saying no makes the dancers pissy, so it's a lose-lose situation. When your chooses are drink hustle or no pussy...

I just say No. It works fine.

I just say no. If I'm enjoying a girl's company, I'll voluntarily buy the girl a drink or two. I never buy a drink for a dancer if the dancer asks me to.

Larry: why in the world wouldn't you buy a drink for a dancer who asks?

I don't buy dancer drinks. I tell the girl before the waitress offers the drink that instead of buying the drink I will give her cash. That way there is no hard feelings when I tell the waitress no when she asks. The girl can't turn the drink down but I can and I make it up to her in cash for what her cut would be.

If a girl joins me at my table and can tell that I am going to like her, I ask if she wants anything when the server stops by.

@subraman sorry I guess I just saw you and just made you the scapegoat for all the old timers here. You mooted my rant.... you bastard

^^^ LOL all good, happens to the best of us

@Dominic - I think that's a good way to go. Yes - the club takes the money - it's not going to the dancer - but the club is getting all the money in those clubs where dancers must sell drinks too. I am more interested in paying the dancer for dances - that some bizarre complicated drink.

@mjx01 that makes sense to me. I don't usually buy anything other than beer or soda - so it would work out well imo.

My issue with dancer drinks is
1.some clubs charge more for a dancer drink
2. I don't have any idea how much alcohol there is in the drink of its a mixed drink

Also I bought an underage dancer a drink one time(unknowingly) and the bartender took it away after someone said she couldn't have it.

"I was thinking, if you are buying dances, could a club stay in business by providing free booze"

That's a good question. I find it interesting though how strip clubs have changed over the years.

A bit before my time, but I'm guessing that when the first "Go-Go Clubs" like the Condor Club started having topless dancers, it was to attract customers and increase liquor sales.

Now, dances make money for the club and free booze could be the enticement for customers. Times change.

chessmaster-->"My issue with dancer drinks is
1.some clubs charge more for a dancer drink
2. I don't have any idea how much alcohol there is in the drink of its a mixed drink"

That would irritate the hell out of me, and on top of that, my assumption would be that special dancer mixed drinks are close to alcohol-free. My head would explode if I ever went into the kind of club you described, I'm looking for a pretty straightforward experience (drinking with the girls) and I'm not sure how NOT to feel like a complete sucker in a place like you describe.

In those types of places, can you just wave the waitress away, then walk up to the bar and just order two shots? That's what I did last time I was in Vegas, just told the stripper we're doing shots not mixed drinks (I had to dismiss my first stripper because she didn't agree), and most of the time got the shots myself at the bar

The club we go to the most the drinks are all the same price. The waitresses don't ask for "dancer drinks". They'll simply ask "y'all need anything?". I have no problem buying problem buying a $4-5 drink for a dancer; which is the same thing mrs sea drinks, if she's sitting spending time with us AND we are interested in her. The regular waitresses know we're going to buy drinks and the regular strippers will come talk and sit for a bit. We only get the "wanna dance" line from strippers we haven't seen there before who are obviously new.

At some San Francisco places they do this, like $10 for a soft drink. ( Soft drink because the places are nude. ) And the waitress also wants a tip. It is like the waitress is supposed to be in training to become a dancer, and as a waitress she is supposed to be learning how to order guys around. So sometimes they are playing a really mean and insulting character. But you can't take it too seriously.

The places I have not been to yet where this is well documented are those San Gabriel Valley clubs, where it is a few ounces of fruit juice.

I have no problem spending money of a girl if she really wants that. But usually she doesn't, but just can't say so.

But I also do understand that the clubs need to make money or they cannot stay open.

1.) Saying no.
2.) Giving the girl cash instead.
3.) Or sometimes going along with it.

But also, I have personally found that waitresses can be lots of fun by themselves. Often there are not clear rules about what they can and cannot do. Waitresses can be lots of fun to talk to, and sometimes it can go beyond that. I have found that treating waitresses like dancers, can work wonders.

SJG

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There are clubs where they push drinks on the custies and then there are clubs w/ dancer-drink hustles.

In most clubs they try to get the custies to buy drinks and thus the 2-drink minimum stuff (which hardly ever gets enforced IME) and waitresses constantly going-around asking if you need a drink (particularly if they notice your drink is empty or almost empty) – in these clubs a simple “no” often suffices but PLs need to learn how to say “no” in strip-clubs.

Then there are scam clubs where it’s almost impossible to get away from the drink hustle and it’s almost as if you are basically forced to buy a drink in order to get any time w/ the dancer – these clubs often have dancer-drinks that are 2x the normal custy drink-price and the dancer-drinks may not even have any alcohol – the club pressures the staff and dancers to get custies to buy these price-inflated often no-alcohol dancer-drinks and often times the dancers will get a cut – these clubs are not the norm but def exist and usually the best one can do is not frequent these places (I have a place like this near me and I only step foot inside of it 1 or at max 2x/year b/c of the rip-off drink hustle).

I guess you'd need to consider the drink hustle as part of the VIP wristband price then.

Is it not possible to find a dancer on the floor who doesn't want a drink? I actually find that *most* don't want drinks as they would rather have the $$ go to them (they know PLs only have a fixed budget for the club, and drinks come out of that budget). I find most dancers to be professionals (surprise, I know) and if I let them know I'm not buying them a drink since I want to buy dances and tip for time, they are all cool with it. I've never had one "get pissy" on me. YMMV.

Personally, if I found a dancer to be pissy (or no pussy, in your case) about not getting a drink, she's get exactly one dance from me, with no tip, and I'd make a note about her in my database to never get any more dances from her again. To me, it's the same as when dancers *ask* for a tip. They will get the tip, once, then I make a note in my database, and I never buy from them again.