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Left the strip club, didn't feel drunk. Pulled over for speeding, failed sobriety test.
Don't drink and drive.
JS69, what are my options. First ever DUI, and first ever arrest. Police never mirandized either. Actually didn't know I was being arrested.
Don't drink and drive.
JS69, what are my options. First ever DUI, and first ever arrest. Police never mirandized either. Actually didn't know I was being arrested.
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Did you do a breathalyzer or blood test?
See a lawyer right away. Things vary by state... if you didn't blow too too high, I understand for first offenses you can often plead down to wet reckless or sometimes even dry reckless. But only your local lawyer will know what goes on in your city & state
A DUI conviction has several consequences, including (1) jacked up car insurance rates - double or even triple in some places and some carriers won't cover you at all; (2) stiffer penalties; (3) more serious punishment for the first offense and even more if you ever get another DUI [in some states, even a first DUI can result in prison, longer license suspensions, a device in your car to monitor breath alcohol, etc]; (4) higher life insurance costs and can prevent you from getting life insurance coverage at all; and (5) employment issues if you work in a job that does background checks. I'm sure that there are other potential issues as well.
So yes it is a misdemeanor, but the states are intentionally piling on specifically to discourage people from driving under the influence. No doubt that insurance lobbyists, MADD and other groups have a lot to do with that, especially since there isn't exactly anybody out there advocating on the other side of the issue. ;)
See below:
http://dui.drivinglaws.org/california.ph…
http://dui.drivinglaws.org/georgia.php
Though be warned that even if you manage to skate out of this with a reduced charge, they will likely make you take a class AND go to some type of treatment (alcohol groups or 1 on 1 therapy).
So don't fuck around with this dude - get a lawyer.
The breathalyzer is notoriously inaccurate. If you were way over the limit it's one thing, but if you were borderline you may have a shot.
Was it a checkpoint?
Sadly, even if such could be passed anywhere, only the poor would pay the price, and the problem would still exist.
But I get it, safety first after all. What's the sense in carrying a dental dam in the car to the strip club if you are just going to be killed by a drunk driver on the way there. ;)
Though all joking aside, there are states that allow for jail time in first time DUI cases, though I'm guessing that this only gets applied to people who are hammered and do something really bad.
this thread reminds me of dougster....because he always use to chastise ricky-boy for drinking and driving lol
I hope things work out in your favor.
A sobering thought.
Good luck. I feel sorry for those who get arrested for minor infractions who I believe aren't really that impaired but not so sorry for those who are wasted drunk. It's kind of like not liking Obama trying to make everyone pay more for oil and gas in the US and add an extra 25 to 50 cent gas tax so that he could out thousands of oil workers out of jobs so that we have a greener country. I know he probably hates the fact that gas is not going to be $8 a gallon when he leaves office like he had planned so now he wants to add $10 per barrel of oil. republicans could fix this by passing a law so that everyone who supports this, pays an extra $4000 at tax time. a vote for Hillary or sanders would be support for it. They can all live greener knowing they are supporting Obama's green stuff projects.
Sorry for going Offtopic.
I'm surprised she didn't get off the hook. I first knew her as a dancer where my ATF worked.
Sounds like the same odds Hillary had in reverse of winning six coin tosses in a row in Iowa.
Sort of old news, but...
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/co…
I know a woman who got caught with DUI, including breathalyzer. Dead to rights Lawyer got the prosecutor down to not just wet reckless (which doesn't have the same legal penalties, but does have similar insurance and other costs to DUI) because she only blew a .1, but got it down to dry reckless (which is a completely different beast). 0% chance that would have happened without a lawyer, IMO. Saved her thousands, got her her license back, unrestricted, faster, etc.
I talked to a couple of lawyers today, one said he was going to plead me guilty the other said strategy. I want to avoid jail time most importantly the rest I can live with.
I get it even if it's the first time they can throw the book at you. But I don't have a history of getting arrested ever, I do feel bad. I'll pay a lawyer because it does give me the best chance. I think when you hire an attorney the solicitor is more willing to work with one of his golf buddies.
Don't drink and drive, but if ya do, call Saul!
Any kind of drive to alcohol biz is a sinking business proposition.
I go to the local alcohol clubs, because they have little or no cover charge. But the nude no alcohol clubs are better. On the road, where these exist, that's where I'll be.
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I do also do long distance bicycle riding and camping.
SJG
Case thrown out when the lawyer successfully argued lack of recent machine calibration and lack of officer training (recertification). Then, the lawyer didn't charge his friend but made him pay all our greens fees the next week.
So posting on TUSCL is about all the fun I get, for now. Anything else has to be extremely discrete.
Anyway, zero alcohol or chemical intoxicants is darn near a requirement if you are going to operate a motor vehicle. I have found that it is the best policy to live by in all situations. All the more so as I am trying to build up a group of people, and it makes for the most practical policy.
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Best of Woody Guthrie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXQYbhL0…
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And anyone who gets a DUI for that and is actually found guilty either hired a shitty lawyer or a court-appointed also shitty one who doesn't give a fuck. Unless I incriminate myself by telling a cop I'm under the influence of weed, my lawyer would have a charge like that dropped with confidence and ease.
I also find it an unfair mistake of mother nature's that weed, one of the safest recreational drugs, stays in your system longer than any hard drug I can think of. A lot of hard drugs are out of your system within a few days. I've known people take almost 2 months of no marijuana use to pass a piss test. Bullshit.
JS, I also find it interesting that you can still feel the effects, even to a small degree, DAYS later. Are you smoking by the pound? I can see being a bit groggy the next day after heavy smoking, and no doubt mildly feeling the effects of edibles the next day, but days later after smoking? Wow.
SJG, enough. You don't even know the truth.
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Lol
This is not a new subject, not in the East and not in the West.
Now yes, there have been people who have sought their version of enlightenment via chemicals, like mushrooms.
But in the more advanced religious forms which came into play 2000 years ago, this was completely abandoned.
As for myself I work to build up a network of comrades. I have no use for people who try to tune out. I need people willing to fight, and who know that they need all of their faculties.
The best ritualistic material is not chemicals, it is sex.
Anyway, whatever I or others may think about this, I want GACA to come out okay in his case.
SJG
I do not disagree with this.
And I have even said that myself I don't want to recriminalize it.
But I do still say that it is better if people don't use it.
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I'm not even arguing here for sort of long term danger, only the simple position that it would be better if people never used such things.
Good Luck to GACA in his case.
SJG
OH PLEASE. And what is it that makes sex pleasurable and fulfilling?! Dopamine, Prolactin, and Oxytocin... All CHEMICALS!
I also wish GACA the best, DUI's suck, but this situation can be looked at as an unfortunate learning experience.
But, that is not all sex is, not when done well.
I wish GACA luck and I don't want to be seen as casting any impunity on him. Any contact with the Criminal Court is a nightmare.
SJG
I probably should start using Uber. Many SCs are in the middle of nowhere industrial parks. Missed my [last] bus back to the hotel and the nearest 24/7 metro line was 3 1/2 miles away by foot.
You mean Strip Clubs, or Santa Clara County?
Strip Clubs in Santa Clara County are not much, and their aren't many, and there aren't many in industrial parks.
And then we don't have that many other choices anywhere within hundreds of miles.
Train to Club Fantasy in Sacramento? Train to San Gabriel Valley in the Greater Los Angeles Area?
Take the Cal Train or BART and then window shop San Francisco AMPs on foot until you find a girl you really can't say no to.
SJG
5 out of 6 taxis in that city never picked up the phone at 1 AM or were voicemails. The one that did pickup the phone wanted $75 for 3 1/2 miles from the SC down the interstate to the 24/7 metro and I have to wait 45 minutes, told them to go fuck themselves. I started walking 1.5 miles to the nearest train station that opens at 4:50 AM to wait until it opens. By some miracle a city bus showed up next to the closed station and that bus did the 3.5 miles down the interstate and dropped me off at the 24/7 metro and I got back to my hotel. I later googled the schedule and found out that other bus line 1.5 miles away has hourly 24/7 service, when I thought previously that particular city bus agency does not operate 24/7.
But, that is not all sex is, not when done well."
Dopamine - gives you a pleasurable reward.
Oxytocin - strengthens emotional bonds thus giving one a feeling of intimacy.
Prolactin - makes you feel fulfilled, which is a reason sex and orgasms are fulfilling.
Oh and androceptors which raise our desire for intimacy.
Not trying to kill your boner, but all the enjoyments of sex are a result of the brain's reaction to chemicals. It's science.
As I have been trying to explain in one way or another since I first registered, I don't go for ejaculation services in strip clubs or amps.
I only want GFE-FS.
When say in San Francisco strip clubs with an 'extras' offering, I've instead turned it around and DATYed their dancers. Its all just for fun, and that has a big effect on them, all the more so as that is not what they get the most of.
But I don't ever talk to any of them as though they are selling sex for money. I approach and engage with them in a civilian way.
Doesn't always work, but when it does the results are mind blowing.
The real issue is if the two people can connect, find that meeting of the minds and acceptance.
And then of course to make it work, both people have to be able to let the para sympathetic nervous system take over from the sympathetic.
So yes, orgasm releases brain chemicals. But there is also a whole lot which has happened before this.
I mean one of the biggest challenges in this world is connecting with another and being seen as a legitimate human being, instead of a Pathetic Looser.
So that preliminary GFE approach, and then the girl consenting to full eyes open non-dissociated civilian style FS with a guy for the first time, that is a big deal. And tantric approaches focus on the energy flows and resonance in the chakras. So yes, chemicals, but also a great deal more before it comes to that.
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Mostly SJG is just responding to other people. That is when it gets intense.
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Miles Davis and Sonny Rollins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQxJCrGS…