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Like most of you, I don't like overpriced dances (I think $40 is overpriced). At the same time I would feel uncomfortable paying $5 for a lapdance, I think that's way too low, and it kind of feels like having a business and hiring someone and only paying them minimum wage.

I think $20 dances is my happy medium. In a ideal world for me dances would be $10.

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I think you're right. I'm comfortable paying $10-$15 for dances. $20 is my absolute limit. At the $5 clubs in Atlanta, the songs are often cut short by at least a couple of minutes

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Supremeruler

$5 the songs have to be cut short and that's only in south where everything is cheap. $20 to $30 is a good medium but I will pay $40 if the dancers are hot enough(8+) and its usually in a more private setting at those prices compared to somewhere on the floor in plain view.

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shadowcat

I'm certainly happy with the $10 dances at Follies in Atlanta. What gets me is that Babes in Atlanta, a club with $5 dances rates higher than Follies on the TUSCL top 10 for value. Cheap does not equal value.

I absolutely refuse to pay more than $20 for a dance. I'd rather go without.

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Papi_Chulo

I hit $5 black-clubs all the time and I feel it's unfair to the dancers.

I think $10 dances are the best for both parties (dancers and PLs) – it's sorta a a low-barrier to entry – i.e. lots of PLs may not think much of investing $10 in a dance but will think harder about it at $20/dance – and at $10/dance many a PL may actually spend more b/c he feels he's getting better value where at $20 he may be more careful pulling the dance trigger.

More often than not; I see wayyyyyy more dances being given/sold in $10 clubs than $20 clubs – so the dancers may actually cum out ahead (and there is always VIP to make extra dough) – thus $10 dances with VIP option IMO is the best “system” for both parties.

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shailynn

$20 to $25 seems to be the normal going rate, and fair as long as the club isn't cutting the songs extremely short (which some do).

As for nicer (non-ghetto) clubs, about the only 2 places I can remember getting quality $10 dances are in Phoenix metro and Montreal.

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Papi_Chulo

Perhaps if one is primarily into extras; then LD-cost is not that big an issue; but if one is a serial LD-enjoyer; then at $10 one can enjoy them buffet-style

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IHearVoices

I'm cool with $25 since it's what I'm mostly used to. It's the going rate in South Florida and at 2001 in Tampa, although I usually get offered the 3-60. There's no chance of me going higher than that, which limits me to Passions when I go to NO.

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rh48hr

Most venues in Phoenix are $10. VIP will usually fall in the $20-25 range.

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whodey

Around here $20 is the going rate and that seems fair to me. I am equally shocked when I here people talking about $5 lapdances and when people talk about $40 lapdances. It seems like at either of those prices someone is getting screwed.

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JamesSD

$20 is fine for full length songs, nude LDs.

For bikini dances and 3 min somgs, $10 is better.

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JohnSmith69

I've never been to a $5 dance club.

Follies and Hi Liter are the two $10 dance clubs that I'm at most often. The girls at those clubs work hard for their $ but I think they make more than at clubs that charge more.

I have no problem with $20 dances which still seems like a reasonable price to me.

I used to pay $30 with some frequency but its much more rare today. I save the big bucks for OTC.

I have paid $40 in the past but not often. A gorgeous redhead might get me to pay that price today but nobody else.

Overall I agree that $20-25 is a happy medium.

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just_the_nuts

Y hasn't any one talked about mileage ? The price i pay depends ememsly on the mileage.

Great example i love cheap lappers so much i devoted a year to find all the $5 spots within my driving range of 400miles one-way North, South, East and West.

I did not take mileage into account i just traveled to any location that was well known for $5 lap dances. I ran into everything from air dances to ultra high mileage. Busted faces, stretch marks and bullet whole bitches Up to DS level 8,9.

What i discovered for my self was number one a true air dance even with a 9 or 10 isn't worth the $5. Shit i could have just tipped on stage.

Second when i did find a club with high mileage with 6,7,8 you know girls i would buy dances from lol. That $5 was like a lot sad to low. A lot of work, satisfaction(no extras), happiness and so forth comes from those kinds of dances. I usually bump it up to $10s

Also forgot to add privacy for the cost as well. I've seen from no privacy to omg they have a door that locks !

I refuse to pay any dance above a $20 and usually wind up paying $15. That's because i believe $25and up per song should include extras.

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Corvus

FarmerArt always made mention of the $50 dances at No. 5 Orange in Vancouver. Way out of my price range.

In the region I do most of my clubbing in, lap dances are $10 each and while I respect the work and effort the girls put into their dances, that is my preferred price range. VIP dances usually run $20 - $25 each. I really don't like paying more than $10 for LDs on the main floor.

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Dancer_

5$ dance is a fucking joke. C'mon, guys. It's United States, not some third-world shithole where such cheap prices would be justified, at least. I would dance for 10$ but it would be bikini, minimum-grinding dance.

30 bucks is a perfect price for me.

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Papi_Chulo

The only $5 clubs I've seen have been black clubs in da hood – and yeah – it's f'ing sad and borderline depressing; but such is life in da hood often times.

And the kicker is that IME often times dudes buy even less dances in these clubs than in the more expensive clubs – cheap dances in dives means even cheaper custies I suppose.

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motorhead

$20 is the perfect price. They US Treasury does not make $30 bills

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Papi_Chulo

$30 is too much – means a custy will be out 100 smacks in about 10 minutes – and IMO is counter-productive most times – i.e. most successful businesses flourish by offering good value and thus getting volume; vs trying to get the most out of a few custies.

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Supremeruler

Yeah I'm not sure I would even wanna go to a club where the dances are only $5. Just doesn't sound right. What kind of dance do you get for $5 anyway?

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Papi_Chulo

Although I can see places like the NE or maybe LA being able to fairly easily sustain $30+ LDs.

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Papi_Chulo

In da black dives I hit; I get more mileage in those $5 dances than I do in the $25 mixed clubs – not kidding – I'd even say wayyyy more mileage.

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just_the_nuts

The only $5 clubs I've seen have been black clubs in da hood

Papi knows whats up

Juice clubs at more ebony clubs than u thank

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MrDeuce

$20 is a fair price for a topless lap dance but I honestly think I buy more than twice as many at $10 as I do at $20. My preferred price range is $10-15, for example:

  • $10 at Hip Hugger in Kokomo and at Babes in Indy (Tuesdays only)
  • $12 at Brad's Brass Flamingo in Indy (noon to 2 only)
  • $15 at Silver Bullet in Urbana
    I encountered $5 dances only once, at Landing Strip in Austin (Tuesdays only) -- I could buy them all day!
    Occasionally I get $30 nude dances at Club O and Club 390 near Chicago.
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Dancer_

Well, I am uber-hot. :) So I would consider 30 dollars reasonable price for dance with me. I worked at Bare Exposure in AC where lappers are 4 minutes/30$ and absolutely no touching is allowed. It was crazily packed during the season. And custies weren't millionaires, that's for sure. Just average Joes.

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Papi_Chulo

^ I guess average joes are stupid

:)

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Clackport

The problem I have with the $25 and $30 dances is the change. Normally I just have 20 dollar bills, so if I get one 25 or 30 buck dance, of course I will pay 40 bucks and ask for change from the stripper. I'd much rather just be able to pay straight up.

If I'm in a club that has 20 buck dances, I will buy dances from girls if they're hot, but I'm much more selective. In a 10 buck dance club, I imagine I'd be much more willing to take chances on girls, because after all it only costs 10 bucks. This in turn would lead me to spending more on dances in the 10 buck place than the 20 buck place.

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Papi_Chulo

Since I hit $5 and $10 spots all the time; I often pay w/ $20s when Im buying anything (coffee; lunch; etc) and then hoard the $5s and $10s for da club.

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just_the_nuts

Papi also trailer trash white honky clubs also have $5 lappers....its not just exclusive to black clubs although yes eiser to find is in the nigro American based clubs

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Supremeruler

Ranukam i am getting more selective in who I get dances from so I normally get multiple dances... So I usually end up tipping them the change. If its $25 and I get 3 dances I just give them $80 or $100(the quality of the dance dictates how much I tip them $5 or $25) unless I have 10s or 5s. If its $30 and I get 3, I give them $100 even. I rarely run into this problem of having to ask for change though since I always have smaller bills from the cover charge and drinks.

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Papi_Chulo

Good point Juice – but what's a “nigro”?

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just_the_nuts

In da black dives I hit; I get more mileage in those $5 dances than I do in the $25 mixed clubs – not kidding – I'd even say wayyyy more mileage.

I agree with this

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JamesSD

If dances here were $30 with no touching, I never would have bought one.

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just_the_nuts

Not sure papi but i thank its political correctness

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Clackport

@Shadow- I'm not familiar with Babes, but are the dances there air dances? Is that why you say the value is not good there?

"I am uber-hot" Why don't you post a pic so we can be the judge of that? :)

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JohnSmith69

I'd pay $30 for high mileage dances with 95.

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ilbbaicnl

Bottom line, if we want hot dancers who aren't mental, they need to average $400 (net) a night minimum. The dance price to get to that will vary depending on how busy the club is and percentage of freeloaders. Most dancers find the job fairly stressful and working more than 3 shifts a week tends to burn them out.

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Dancer_

@ranukam,
Lol, I already uploaded pic of my boobs tho. But ok, this is the last one

i68.tinypic.com

Some might disagree but my savings do confirm that I am hot.:)

@John, aww, thank you!:)

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Clackport

@95- I've seen plenty of ugly girls with decent looking tits, so that doesn't show me anything. Dancers on TUSCL like hotstuff69babi, Duomaxwell, and most recently Nina have showed face pics. It's part of tradition here.

So......let's see that uber hot face of yours. :)

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Dancer_

Sure, man - I will gladly upload my face pic here so everybody whom I knew could see that and find out that I am a stripper and a hooker. :)

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ilbbaicnl

Right ranukam it's not like putting identifiable smutty picture of yourself on the internet could possibly cause you problems later is life or anything.

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ilbbaicnl

Nice pic Dancer95! You look as good as escorts I've seen asking $500+/hr.

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Clackport

Sure 95, everyone you know will get on TUSCL and be able to locate this thread. Makes perfect sense to me.

That reminds me, my fellow TUSCLers, vote for me on the Upcoming 100 Emerging Chart Hopeful Chart. I'm number 26 on there right now, the stage name is P-Nemesis. (By the way that pic by name is a face pic of me)
upcoming100.com

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Dancer_

According to your logic, escorts shouldn't crop/blur their faces in ads, for example.

I don't know who lurks here. Anyone can use google image search and track me down using this pic. It's possible that someone will save my face/body pics, links on my tuscl profile, etc and post it somewhere else. There are a lot of things that can go wrong. And if I was fugly, I could easily steal hot girl's pic from FB.

So nope, not gonna happen:) Either believe me or call me a liar, there is no other way.

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Dancer_

Thanks, ilbbaicnl:)

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Bend7

PT's showclub and PT's Centerfold in Colorado has going rate of $40 per dance with additional $5 or $10 for wrist band to goto dance room. Now one may pay $100 to escort rated 5-8 for quickie of 15 min. ( i.e. cost of two low mileage dance).

Now few smart dancers will say that "Generally I charge $40 but today I am fine with $25"... And you may see only these girls going to dance area frequently with customers.

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Clackport

I'm just fucking with you 95. I'm pretty sure 99.9999% of people on here wouldn't be willing to show their face for obvious reasons.

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rh48hr

Dancer - Your picture would not come up on my phone or tablet, I finally had to go on my laptop to see it. I'm glad I was persistent. :-) I definitely liked what I saw.

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georgmicrodong

@Dancer, if that's really you, I'd agree with your self assessment. :)

However, and no offense, I still wouldn't pay $30 for a no touch dance. Yes, I'm a creepy old pervert, and yes, I'm spoiled by all the grope friendly girls (many of whom are just as hot as you, IMO) in my local clubs.

On the other hand, were you to visit, I'd be happy to buy you a drink or two. :)

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seaboardrr

D95, the picture you posted previously in the cut-off jean shorts was a lot better but I have a thing for cut-off jean shorts. If mrs sea put on some cut off jean shorts and hiking boots I'd turn into a babbling idiot with a hard-on. Sorry to be in the minority but we both think you're a little too skinny for us.

$30 is just too much and we'd pass every time. The problem is you're going to charge us $60 for a 3 minute dance and the economics of that based on the service we'd be getting is ridiculous. We didn't even get a single dance last weekend because they were $25 and never had a 2 for $40 special all night. Only saw 1 chica we liked (well, 1 I like but mrs sea doesn't like her) but $50 for a single dance is just not something we're going to do. We aren't newbies acting like a deer in headlights or some infatuated loner hoping to go home and whack off to the titties he finally got to see. We're about mileage and variety. $10/dance would be a sweet spot for us. You'd still get $20 for 3 minutes of work and we'd feel a lot better dropping a few hundred $$$. This way we'd get to try out 5-10 diff dancers every time we go. Once we find a dancer we really like we easily drop $$$ on her.

Air dances are a sure fire way of making sure you never get another dime from us.

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