Planning a trip
In July I went to my first strip club while on a road trip, I went at night, again next day lunch time, and again several days later on the way back. All those times I went alone and each time I had a great time even though I didn't ask for any extras or OTC things or anything like that. I'm thinking of taking a trip back to that strip club since I had so much fun, but this time, since I'm going alone again with no intention of meeting up with my friend, I'm gonna push my luck on extras and OTC.The strip club is 8+ hours from where I live and 4+ from my friend, so I have no reason to not push my luck. I'm thinking of taking $900 - $1200 to spend over 3 days at the strip club. This isn't a non substantial amount of money for me, but with my living situation and bills and expenditures at home I can certainly swing it.
My questions are:
1) Am I insane for taking an 8 hour trip to spend 3 nights at a strip club?
2) What are the chances of getting extras and OTC and having a good time each night on $300-$400 a night?
I realize I'm asking these questions on a strip club enthusiast forum, but I'm interested in feedback.
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2) Extras/OTC are never a guarantee – there are many variables – depending on the club, area, and dancer hotness, I’d say $300 should do it for extras/OTC and perhaps as low as $150 again depending on the club, area, and dancer hotness – you should read the reviews of the club and see if you can gauge the cost of extras or even try to PM someone who seems to know the club well or may have done extras there
2) I agree with guys that you should specify your destination. And I wonder how picky you are regarding dancer's hotness, it is a very serious factor too.
I am not sure about possibility of OTC - we get offers from random guys to come fuck at their hotels/houses all the time(this eternal "What time do you get off work?", grr) and imo, girl should be either dumb or super desperate to go for it with a complete stranger. Probably extras ITC are your only option. Then again, I need to know city you going to. Cause you wouldn't get a shit ITC in mine for several hundreds.
VIP rooms were slightly more than $100 for 30 minutes there. I'm pretty sure I'll have a good time without getting any extras, but I still wanna push it, I think.
Men and women have been hooking up for P4P since the beginning of time; and I doubt this will change any time soon.
Many occupations have inherent risks but folks still choose to do those occupations – if a girl can make $1k a night then probably not much of an incentive to do OTC for $300 – but if she only makes $300/$400 in a whole shift and can double her $$$ in an hour of OTC w/ no cut for the club; then it may be an incentive to her.
Rech, Detroit is a good bit closer, but as I said earlier, Kandy's is a place I'll be comfortable with or without extras.
Rockstar, I'm not confident in my ability to screen escorts.
Dancer, I realize it'll be a long shot getting OTC if I go, but I'm okay with that. I just wanna have fun and I wanna try to keep everyone comfortable.
Obviously you're new at this but theres no reason to be afraid of trying a new strip club. Just read the reviews and you're all set.
You seem to have already made up your mind but since you asked its a serious mistake to not go to Detroit.
1. Go to Detroit, there are safe suburb areas you can club at, and also hit the casinos in your spare time if you're into that. Detroit isn't all extras, you can easily go hang at a club and just get lap dances.
2. If you have a passport, go to Toronto. Great strip clubs, great massage parlors with hot Canadian woman (not Asians). Escorting is legal there so if on a whim you want "extras" you can go that route as well.
I live in the radius of where you're talking about traveling to, and I very rarely club there because it sucks. I take trips like you want to, or make a pit stop during business travel - always in Toronto and Detroit, which are the two best places to club at if you're in the northern Midwest or northern east coast.
Many of us on this board are well in-tune with the better clubs and better areas to SC across the country – and Kandy’s in freakin PN is not a club I’ve heard much boasting about – not saying it’s not a good club and I’ve not been there myself just saying it’s not on the radar of must-do clubs.
Top Detroit clubs like Penthouse and Flight Club have 600+ and 1100+ reviews respectively; whereas Kandy’s just has 33 – that outta say something right thur.
Some prefer a new adventure and some prefer to stick with what they know – but you should at least look at the reviews of the top Detroit clubs (Penthouse, Flight Club) and a few others (BT’s; Subi’s; Coliseum) and then make up your mind – extras at these places are much more of a sure thing w/ fairly good looking dancers and completely private booths (and decent prices).
There are also some lower-end clubs which are supa-heavy on extras but there is a hit on dancer-quality – though some do prefer these clubs but most stick to the upper-end clubs.
I think you need to do more planning :)
Especially with the resources of time and $$$ you are making you could be getting a much better bang for your buck (figuratively and literally).
East St Louis is not a bad choice – but the D is better pretty much on all counts (better and more clubs and better quality dancers)
In the meantime, any advice on how to go about asking for extras or OTC? Never done it, so I'm open to input. What's the best way to go about being sure they know I'm not a cop or guy looking to murder them?
I've read your two very well-written reviews of the Pony in Evansville and Kandy's in Waterford/PA. It's obvious that you had a wonderful time at the latter and want to repeat the experience, which I completely understand. If you insist on making the 8+ hour drive to Waterford, I will suggest an itinerary that ends at your beloved Kandy's. Drive from Evansville to Waterford with strip club stops at:
* Fantasy's in New Cumberland/WV
* Palace in the Pines in Lowellville/OH
* Partners Tavern in Erie/PA
All three are decidedly extras-friendly (in fact, I got my first ITC BJ at Palace in the Pines two years ago) and I'm sure OTC is available at each. This itinerary would expand your strip club horizons and conclude at your favorite club.
But seriously -- go to Detroit!
There have plenty of OTC threads – just type OTC in the TUSCL search box in the upper right hand corner.
This is a recent thread on it:
www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=37579#com…
After you read thru some of the threads if you still have specific questions then hit us up.
Best to be direct and not leave it up to “interpretation”.
Also – square away exactly what you want and how much – settling for her saying “don't worry we'll have a good time” can often get you a $300 lap-dance instead of sex.
Take condoms – many dancers that do extras have them but many are often unprepared.
Don't pay upfront – once you pay your $$$ it's GONE whether she follows thru or not – you *will* have to pay the VIP room fee upfront but don't pay her part till she holds up her end of the bargain in VIP – if she flakes out on you in VIP most likely you won't get your room fee back (although some of the higher end spots may refund you) – but if you get in VIP and you see she is not getting down to the agreed biz; walk out – but you can't stay in there the whole time or most of the time hoping she'll deliver – if you spend most of the time in the VIP then you gotta pay her – so walk out as soon as you see she is bullshitting you w.r.t her promises and don't pay her – she will try to intimidate you and threaten to get the manager or bouncer – don't be scared – these dancers do this every day for years on end and know how to rip-off and intimidate custies.
If she does get the manager/bouncer you calmly and methodically explain the situation – now you can't say she promised to have sex w/ you and then once in VIP wouldn't and that's why you are not paying her b/c although staff knows what goes down in VIP they can't admit to it and you'll get a “sir sex is not allowed in the VIP” - so since you can't say she promised sex and did not deliver – you say “we agreed on X private dances in VIP for $Y but once we were in VIP she said she wanted $Z and that's why I walked out” - it's your word against hers and you should not allow yourself to get ripped-off especially since you walked out of VIP almost as soon as you walked in once you saw she was trying to rip you off – i.e. you did not receive any services from her and why thus you are not paying her – and then ask for your room fee back and see if they give it to you since you did not use up the VIP time.
Not saying beng ripped-off is the norm – but def happens epsecially if you don't know the deal.
Additionally – one of the good things about Detroit clubs is that one does not have to pay for VIP – i.e. extras are done in the private dance-booths that are used for both lap-dances and hanky-panky – i.e. no paying up front for the room except maybe a $10 or $20 tip to the bouncer to ensure he does not peek his ugly head in.