A FKKing Warning to All TUSCLers
jackslash
Detroit strip clubs
I realize now that I may have been unwittingly responsible for finding myself in this indecent and wicked place. I had had a long day of Vienna monuments and museums. After visiting the Belvedere Palace and Gardens, I fell into conversation with an Austrian man. English was not his native language, and he may have misunderstood when I asked him where I could go to see some more horticulture.
At any rate, the man directed me to walk south on Arsenalstrasse and then turn left to reach Goldentime. A large neon sign advertised the club, and from the outside it appeared to be a clean and hygienic sanctuary for a tired traveler.
After paying the 90 euro entrance fee, I was given a locker for my clothes, a safe for my valuables, and a white robe. I proceeded into the club proper, looking for the sauna that was advertised. I observed about 20 other men wearing white robes. But more shockingly, I saw 50 or 60 young women lounging around the club. Someone must have forgotten to give robes to the young ladies, because they were all stark naked. I had to close my eyes to avoid seeing the girls' naughty parts.
I stood at the bar and drank some beers, trying to regain my composure. The young ladies circulated through the building, and every minute or two a girl would come up to me and ask in a thick eastern European accent, "You vant blow job? Fooking?" They were very friendly.
The girls were young and attractive, seeming to be in their 20's and from 8 to 10 on the scale of looks. Almost all of them were white, and there were many blondes, which I have a weakness for. They told me they were from countries to the east such as Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, and Russia. I found it had to have a conversation with them because my eyes kept lighting on something I shouldn't stare at.
Then two blondes with big boobs approached me. They said they were from Romania. One girl reached under my robe and squeezed my penis. I felt she was rather presumptuous. She said, "You vant tree-way?" Well, I have to confess that I had never heard of a "tree-way." But it sounded environmentally friendly, and I'm all about the environment.
They grabbed my arms and led me away from the bar. "Vant to see cinema?" they said, and took me into a small theater. The movie on the screen featured a naked woman and a naked man with a large member doing unmentionable things to her. The blondes sat on both sides of me, preventing me from running away. One girl bent over and began fellating me in public. I was extremely embarrassed, and quickly agreed when they asked if I wanted to go to a private room.
In a bedroom the girls ripped off my robe and began molesting me. They asked, "You vant poosy licking? Dildo show?" They started licking each other's private parts, making them very wet. They inserted dildos into each other, and removed the dildos and licked them.
They grabbed my penis and placed a condom on it. They forced me to have intercourse with both of them. While I was having sex with one girl, the other would rub her breasts on my face or suck on the other girl's breasts.
"You vant to eat our poosies?" they asked. But I politely told them, "No, thank you."
After I had finished, the girls asked me for money. Since they had been so friendly, I felt it was only right to give them a present of all my euros.
By this time I decided it was too late for a sauna and left. I think the club would get more customers for its sauna if there were fewer naked girls in the place.
After my experience at the Goldentime FKK Sauna Club, I felt I had to warn any TUSCLers who want to vacation in Vienna. If you go to this club, you will lose valuable time when you could be visiting museums, palaces or the opera.
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$262 US dollars for the 3 way, according to jackslash's review
Wow. What a couple of ROB's! I'll make sure to never go there! Thanks for the warning. lol.
How much is a flight to Vienna? :)
Having said this I commend you for being so polite and patient with them and representing yourself well as an American while they did what they did to you.
This post should be put on the State Department’s website as a heed to any American traveling there.
;-D
warhawks, not sure from the states what the cost is but for me it's equivalent of $150 if I book in advance
http://www.goldentime.at/en/club-wien
But seriously what I would want to know about it are two things:
1. Are they really naked, or are they the way I like them, in high heels and makeup?
2. Just as this is an issue in strip clubs, how friendly can you get with them in the front room, before committing to the backroom session and its associated costs. The best answer is that they are routinely sitting on laps and engaging in front room makeout sessions, and for only a small amount of fraternizing tips. Then after that you have the option of going with her to the back room to continue.
Also, I would feel funny about the situation if these women really were refuges from dire economic circumstances in Eastern Europe and so they had no other real options.
http://www.goldentime.at/en/club-wien
SJG
Bob Weir and John Mayer Perform Althea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnUAqGyF…
And, Jack, when you get back here to the States, make sure you take two strippers and call us in the morning!
Usually the more people who see it, the more people who will be doing the same.
People here on TUSCL have posted of it going this way in many clubs across the country. On blackstripclubs.net there were numerous reviews detailing how in the most extreme places the girls pushed it that way themselves. They want results, and that is the best way to get them. Then TUSCL members have attested to it actually being like this in the mixed race clubs as well.
If you don't like that, then I would suggest that you stay away from such clubs, and from such women. Leave them to me, as I will appreciate them.
In Santa Clara and San Mateo Counties there are strictly enforced no touching rules. In San Francisco it could potentially go this way, but these places have been set up as clip joints, and so, at least as I have seen, it typically does not.
Escort sessions are usually completely GFE, as an Escort depends more on repeat business than SC's or AMP's do. These later have an easier time getting new customers, so they do not have to deliver as well.
But AMP girls have auditioned to become my Escort service, and they do an extremely good job of this.
Most AMP girls do not like being written about on the Internet, and so they use multiple names to cause confusion. But there are a few beloved exceptions who recognize the career boosting potential. So they use one unique name and they make sure every one knows it, and they are high intensity GFE from the moment they get into the room with you.
AAMPs are an apartment based Asian version of an Escort service. At least when RedBook was running, with explicit individual provider reviews, they knew that they had to deliver or they might as well give up. So test DFKing and demonstration DFKing before the money was handed over were common.
Lots of people go to Swinger's Clubs, but only have sex with the person they came with. They find that they get off on being watched. Some people come just to watch.
I would say that in a Strip Club, the more that a girl does in front of other people, the more money she will be making, and the more the other girls will be following her lead; though they might be really pissed at her. Strip Clubs are about voyeurism. At core they are audience participation cabaret shows.
I've explained about the cute little black girl I assumed was an office worker on her lunch hour, and about how I was going to see where she went and then see if I could invite her to have lunch with me. But she surprised me by walking right into the New Century. So even though I really didn't have enough money, I followed her in. When she did her stage set it culminated in open tongue kissing with another girl. Then she came off stage and climbed onto my lap.
As this has been an issue where people have strong opinions, do any other's want to chime in on this subject?
SJG
Bob Weir and Warren Haynes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQw5XK8O…
SJG
I found the horticulture request the most amusing of all.
Sorry, Papi, but I think it would be a waste of time. None of us would ever see each other.
You say that "front room make out sessions are a turn off to other customers". Maybe they are to you but not to the majority of customers. They are not to me and the girls that play out front are able to get more guys to the back than those that don't. I have watched what happens in the clubs where you see this occurring. Guys are almost lining up to have the girl sit on their lap and kiss and have her stroke your dick through your pants. I was with a friend at the Harem in Dayton a couple weeks ago. A gal came over and sat on his lap stroked his dick kissed his neck then some light dfk and he was on the way to the back room. After that all kinds of guys wanted to take her to the back. She made a lot of money that night. I was with my GF or I would have even taken her to the back.
And besides, you don't really want a service to be performed for you, 'extras', you just want the girl to open up and let it happen. This is why always treating her like a civilian and never negotiating fee for services is so important.
And I know from personal experiences that it works. Girls respond extremely well when in P4P environments they get treated like a civilian.
@IME, if you don't like such venues or their women, you don't need to be there.
SJG
But if you and she can build some rapport first, then it needn't be that way.
The real strength of Strip Clubs, as opposed to other sorts of P4P venues, is that being hang out places, you can fraternize freely some first. With Escorts or AMPs you really cannot do this. But this benefit of Strip Clubs is lost when guys go in there and 'buy dances' and get 'extras', and in general just let girls get them to commit to dances simply by parading around and dangling the bait.
The girl has the most power up on her stripper shoes parading around. The guy has the most power getting her off her feet and talking to her. That is what softens her up, first.
SJG
Drugging Our Kids
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_27891…
new rules, but they shouldn't be putting ANYBODY on psychiatric medication. Some people will prescribe ethanol or heroin for themselves. Difficult to do much about this. But we should be able to stop the guys in the white coats with the prescription pads. I say that if they are putting kids on psychiatric meds, then we should line them all up against a wall and shoot them.
"Some times i dont feel like tossing much cash so i arrange a wet handjob with lots of dfk"ing"
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
SJG
I just wouldn't want you to have to see any of the aggressive and openly available women who you don't seem to like. Maybe we could hang up a curtain which would say, "No @IME Beyond This Point".
SJG
I have pressing real life responsibilities. These keep me tied down as other people are counting on me for public results. These also require that I keep a wall between what we talk about here, and my life on the ground where at least for a while longer, I do have to worried about anythings which could bite back at me.
But once I have certain results, I plan to be visiting much of the 48 contiguous states, plus northern Mexico, and maybe areas of Europe too. I will be trying to spread a business. Most of the people who post here about clubs ranging over a vast area seem to be business travelers of one sort or another. I'll be in a similar situation.
Most of the clubs which sound the most open seem to be in Texas or East of the Mississippi. These are where the stories of the extremely friendly girls are coming out of. These are the places where one does not necessarily need to settle for mileage or extras, but instead might be able to get a girl to open up and just let go. I think this is the best way, really the only way, escort grade GFE.
In the mean time, I've found that most of the SF clubs are clip joints. They might look like anything goes, but they are actually tightly controlled. In my opinion they are like carnival shows, very carefully designed for taking money off of marks. But you @IME clearly have different ideas about how it should go. You might enjoy them, and enjoy letting go of lots of money in them. So I encourage you to come and try them out.
As far as Santa Clara County and the Sunnyvale Brass Rail, I love that place. Zero touching and no private dances., But you can have lots of fun with the girls when they are on stage, and you can get to know them. It is actually easier to do this there than it would be in a club with mileage. The girls are perfectly ordinary girls, and so they respond to the same sorts of things which other ordinary girls respond to.
And then the Sunnyvale Hip Hugger I liked even better. Lots of lots of time spent talking to pretty girls there. Tragic that the city bent over backwards to get rid of it anyway they could.
SJG