Orgasms and obligations

You do realize that shes not really having an orgasm, right? And no, you're not the exception

Au contraire jerikson40 dude.

Chicks always orgasm with me. Every time I tip.

I thought that every dude did his best to make every girl, civi or stripper, orgasm.

I've always thought people are responsible for their own orgasms, but if I can help the process along in any way, I'm game. I've found with all women (not just pros) that some women cum almost every time, some cum sometimes and some hardly if ever cum. It usually has very little to do with me.

Zero obligation, ever, if I'm paying. However, even if I'm paying, I like my partner to orgasm. Even, and sometimes especially, if she's doing it herself, it's pretty damned hot.

A dancer friend I know (I know her from outside the SC world, and no, I haven't had sex with her, but I would in a heartbeat) told me that if a guy tries to get her off first she usually doesn't return the favor. She told me a lot of customers "get off" getting the dancer off and unless afterwards they explicitly ask for the return favor she just sits on their lap. Also, she says that if they try to get her off it is a great way to get them to buy additional dances later (either at that time or a later time/date) because they think it will lead to more ( but it never does). Most dancers know how to stroke your ego and bleed every penny from you.

impala,

Were she to stroke Mr. Happy, instead of "stroke your ego", she would be further along bleeding me out! :)

Jackie cum sooo hard

Clubber, I whole heartedly agree. But you have to agree, if you think that you are going to get something extra, you will go along with a lot of bs to get Mr. Happy stroked, and usually will believe her when she wants just a little bit more, then a little bit more, then a little bit more. That's their job, to separate you from your money. That's what they do, some a just a little less honest or more deceptive than others. I'm not saying a little extra effort on your part won't be rewarded, especially from a dancer that is newer or there more for fun than a "career" (especially in the smaller clubs or topless bars). I am saying, though, a true professional "dancer" is there to make money and will usually do what it takes to make the most from whom ever they can, and if that involves stringing you along or leading you on they most will. Now, if you are a regular at a place and have established somewhat of a relationship with them (especially a smaller place), in my experience your efforts are usually rewarded better because they want the return business, and it may even lead to other things eventually.

Of course a dancer having a genuine orgasm during a lap dance is extraordinarily rare so I never even think about that. During extras I could dine at the Y, but I am not willing to take the STD risk.

And by the way, who the fuck is Jackie?

The best part about a strip club visit is that it is all about me! It is a more intense interaction; however, when both parties find the interaction pleasant. There is one particular dancer (who if it's an act instead of real) has missed a career calling! On the other hand, my biggest turnoff in a strip club visit is when an entertainer goes immediately into a porn soundtrack without cause.

impala,

I was going to reply anyway, but your last sentence, "Now, if you are a regular at a place and have established somewhat of a relationship with them (especially a smaller place), in my experience your efforts are usually rewarded better because they want the return business, and it may even lead to other things eventually.", was the key. Exactly the situation I have.

The dancer and I seemed to do just fine, even to the point of her asking advice and crying on my shoulder. Money has never been mentioned. Well, I paid her for her dancing, which is to be expected. This went on for some time and the LD experience "advanced" somewhat, but not rapidly. No problem, as I was happy with her company in the club. Always an ego boost when one of the hottest dancers sits with you and ignores all the other patrons.

Well, her schedule and mine were excellent, but the last time I saw her, was by accident. I went to the club at a time she was usually not there. I didn't see her car in the lot. Well I sit at the bar and about 10 minutes later, someone is rubbing my shoulders. I turn and there she is. Turned out, a new car an SLK. She does well. :) We talk a bit and I then take her to the LD area. It was like we had never been back there before. Even an attempt at kitty exploration was rebuffed. I didn't question it at the time, but thought that maybe it was the end of "us". When we returned to the club, she sat a few then went to see another customer she knew. They went to the LD area. She did come back to me and we chatted a bit, then I had to leave. Since then, I've not seen her car there. Maybe she was moving on, or I've just missed her shifts.

Anyway, I want to see her one more time to either let it happen or remove myself from the "relationship". I've seen my favorite barmaid and a bouncer I know from the club outside the club, but couldn't ask them as my SO was with me. How I know the two is not only from the club, but outside events, so the SO has no reason to wonder, "Who are these people?"

So most of you cannot tell the difference between a woman having a real orgasm and one faking it? How about 6? You cannot notice physiological changes? When you're kissing her and rubbing her pussy and she squirts you don't notice? You don't notice what a woman's nipples do before, during and immediately after an orgasm? You're unaware when the dancer you've been going private with for months stop rubbing the V on your cock and insert and straddles you bareback? You don't notice when she uses the same tip you always give her to buy you and her drinks for an hour? You've screwed women you weren't in love with and if you're like me probably a bunch ya didn't even like, yet you don't think in the moment a woman could just use you for some orgasms, while she thinks of her girlfriend and the strap - on? Totally agree ROCKIE or even worse, makes a big deal about how huge your dick is when you know on a great day its never going to be more than lucky 7.

Clubbed, I have had similar situations also. There are a few that I have started relationships with at the clubs, and have gotten quite "familiar" with them in and out of clubs. I also understood that when at the club if they went back to the VIP room with someone else that their there to make money. I actually had one dancer get so attached to me that she asked not to come in while she was working because she felt that if she was giving a lap dance to someone else and knew I was there she felt guilty, but we hung out a lot before or after her shift, usually at the club she worked or at a nightclub with her crazy (and not necessarily good crazy) stripper friends. Also, I have been out with my SO and seen some of the dancers, bouncers, and barmaids and had fear shoot down my spine that they would want to talk to me fans that I would have to explain how I knew them. But, hey, that is the life that we live.

Pisses me off when they cum and I don't. :)

For me if she cums its hot and a bonus, but not required. If she takes the initiative to direct me in that direction I'm more than happy to oblige. But most just focus on me and are already thinking about getting their next customer.

While not a goal of mine, I am happy when it occurs. As one dancer remarked to me after, "Thanks for that unexpected pleasure."

if she cums, then the cost of a high-priced VIP initially decreases to a manageable level.
I've heard of dancers offer to pay for the room and discount their fee to go to VIP with someone with talents.
some girls that never do extras are inclined to do them if they've known someone for a long time. (2 to 3 years)

Crazy joe if you keep fucking jackie aka my ex im going to punch you i. Your shit box

Fuck you jackie

Know down to the question..i feel obligated to one fake or real orgasm from her then im going to pull out and squirt on her pussy whole and piss on her shitter box

I have no problem being the scratching post, or the prop, as long as I am well tended to in the interaction! Ski: I have not had the post event drink purchased for me by my entertainer! Kudos to you! Many singles, some doubles and the occasional triple, but according to SW such an event never happens!. If others do more with their time - more power to you!

I agree with Otto22.

I agree wit myself

I know when my #2 cums, because the booth smells like pussy. When she cums she gets really wet! It's only happened twice out of maybe 50 times we've danced so I agree it's rare. She likes me but she's not particularly in to me as I'm not her type...outside of my wallet!

obligation: no
desire: it can only help if she enjoyed it too

It ticks me off too when a girl claims she had 3 orgasms In only 15 minutes and I wasn't there yet. She was full of it like normal always lying. I learned not to correct females when they are lying because some get ticked off. I can lie too.

I like to return the favor for a dancer, especially if she really knows how to eat pussy good. It's the least that I can do. I especially love clubs that offer bed dances so that we can 69 comfortably.

I can certainly recall one dancer who came or had the dripping wet pussy that I felt it was like she came.

Even though our conversations sucked and she gave me a hard time for those days that I was not around, she still remembers me and sends text to me like a devoted pilgrim.

Then she whispers into my ear how I was able to let her get off that one night and would like to do it again. But my mind was thinking of someone else, and hid that emotion from her.

I guess if a dancer gets off from your talent, she will remember and will always pull.

lopaw,

From a female point of view, do you really enjoy 69ing? The reason I ask, from my experience I would much rather take turns. That way we can each enjoy the event the most and not have pleasuring the other as a thought.

@skibummer - she's faking it, moron, just like your wife!

Heres the deal....

I am paying her. She is not paying me. Therefore I am the one to receive satisfaction. Pretty simple.

Do you share your egg mcmuffin with the girl who serves you at McDonalds?

Lol

And as far as being able to "tell" if a woman has really experienced an orgasm? Personally, I have no clue. I *think* I can usually tell, but who the fuck knows?

And that sucks, IMO. Women have it so easy. Just see how high the fountain squirts and she can gauge exactly how much the guy came. With women, who the fuck knows? They're fucking experts in faking it.

If I'm with someone I love, my goal is to make her cum like crazy. But I hate not knowing. Best you can do is try to make her relaxed, get the right foreplay, emotion, tension, excitement, get the right rhythm going, etc.

But damn, your guess is as good as mine if it ever really works. I hate that. And it makes it tough to hone your skill in that area if you never know what really works and what doesn't.

I like the taste of her hot piss