USA Monger Guide

Please feel free to use me as a referral to speed up the process. I go by "Joe Dirt" on that site.

You're a twosheds guy. I hope you guys honored Alucard (hard4dancers)

They did.

"just for men only".
Wrong.

I signed up an only see one post on how to get a senior membership. Is that it?

It's not that easy to get in. You must be able to post on another site and prove it to their satisfaction. I don't have the technological skills to do this without significant effort. I doubt the site is worth the effort even though Mr. Dirt is plugging it enthusiastically on several sites. He has shilled for other sites in the past. Begin to wonder if he is invested in these sites.

Not worth it to jump thru hoops when there are plenty of other strip club sites around like TUSCL Thanks but no thanks.

@lowpaw: Consider that a slogan, not a rule. Sort of like McDonalds saying 'lovin' it'.

Most people are as lazy as I am, so I bet once the hoops are jumped through, there's no content!

There's no stinking way I'm "proving" that I'm posting on another site to get access. For one thing, I don't see any reason to connect a user ID on one site with another, especially one dealing with this subject. For another, if that's some bright boy's idea of "security", I've got a nifty little program I'd like him to install in his server that will make it completely secure.

Otto22 I don't know why you're being such a dick to me. All I'm trying to do is let members know about a new site that might benefit them in one way or other. It takes all of 3 minute to copy and paste a PM to a post, how much "technological skills" do you need to copy and paste (please tell me you know how to copy and paste)? Even Booozeman made you look like a dumb-ass for what you posted on TS. I could give a fuck if you join or not, I'm not asking you to join. I'm just letting my brother mongers know that there's something new out there, some guys do appreciate tips on new sites. Now, STFU and crawl back under your rock.

PS. If you don't know how to copy and paste, Google it. Asshole! Now don't say Joe Dirt never gave you a helpful tip.

^^^^
Please post a screenshot

^^^^ better yet don't bother.

BitchbBoy is back, shilling for yet another dogshit site that purports to do what other sites are already doing much better. Cool! Boy after this, maybe he'll change industry focus and start shilling for a brand new site that sells glasses that help keep the sun out of people's eyes, or a great new invention that opens metal cans, or...you get the picture. ;)

But seriously BitchBoy, you'd be a much more effective shill if you could keep your composure in the face of a little criticism. These consatnt little mini-meltdowns when people tell you that longstanding monger sites already exist, or that trying to maintain a dancer review site is both pointless and potential harmful, by way of two examples, are kinda' painful to watch. If you really want to be a better shill, you need to be able to tell us why your new site is better, not throw a hissy fit every time someone points out a flaw.

But hey, welcome back!

Lmao rick!

I don't have any comment on the ease of signing up or on Joe Dirt's motivation in promoting this site. All I can say is that the site does contain reviews of specific dancers at various clubs with a level of detail that is seldom available on other sites. If details about extras, prices, rip offs, negotiation strategies, etc. is of interest to you, then the site is worth taking a few minutes to sample.

Georgemicrodong does raise an interesting issue about signing up for multiple adult entertainment discussion sites. I'm an active member of several sites (TUSCL, USASG, USA Monger Guide, The Monger Review, Two Sheds, even Naughty Reviews until that site became virtually unusable). I use the same screen name and of course the same IP address when accessing all of these sites. In what way does that pose a risk and what, if anything should I do to minimize risk (should I delete cookies)?

why do you have to jump through hoops just to sign up?

Electronman, a stripper review site is a crappy idea for a couple of reasons.

First, because of the liability issues and potential chilling effect it could have if it were actually heavily used in some areas. You boys from Detroit seem not to grasp the fact that many areas are much more restrictive regarding ITC activities. Having a board like this could actually backfire on people looking for permissive dancers. Discretion is important in keeping this stuff flowing freely and many girls won't do it if they think that their activities will be posted on a public website. I could also just imagine club managers using info. posted on a board like this to justify firing a girl and maybe we shouldn't make it so easy for LE to target certain girls either.

Second, because the usefulness and reliability of the information will be suspect in many cases. Strippers are transients by nature, often switching club and stage names at the same time, so intel relating to a % of the dancers will become stale quickly. Also, this type of board would be ripe for abuse and fraudulent posts by dancers' enemies, so who knows how much of the intel would even be accurate to begin with.

^^^ Agreed, completely. Well articulated. Point each other to the right town. Point each other to the right club in the right town. That should be enough. Discretion IS the better part of valor.

Mr. Dirt continues to show he is a class act.

rickdugan makes a valid point about the down side of posting too much information about strip club activities. This cautionary note is applicable in any geographic area where the SC activities are tightly regulated. But-- Detroit is a unique market where extras are widely available and discussed quite openly in most clubs. Furhermore, some of the web sites have a level of screening that is designed to insure that only verified customers (not managers of LE) have access to any detailed information. In other words, it is more secure than an open forum but less secure than a PM.

Nevertheless, it is a judgment call where you have to weigh the benefits of detailed information against the risks (and validity) of the information. I know that screening is imperfect at best and I wouldn't want to do anything to curtail ITC fun (such as posting so much detail in PUBLIC forums that LE or club managers are forced to take action).

I wish TUSCL had an edit function because I re read my post above and realized that I acknowledged the down side of explicit posts (mostly related to LE and management liability if the details are accessible by the wrong parties).

I failed to adequately describe the positive side of a site that contains detailed information (kine of like a consumers report for strip clubs and strippers). Imagine going into your favorite strip club where 10-20 dancers are on duty and trying to decide who to invite for a private dance. You log into a secure web site and there are reviews of most, maybe all of the dancers that the DJ is introducing. You can notice which ones have multiple complaints about ripping customers off. You notice which ones are "clean" dancers-- maybe you're in the market for some extras and don't want to spend time and money on the "clean" dancers. You also notice which ones have consistently positive reviews and which ones have mixed reviews.

The point is that, like anything, you need to balance the risks and the rewards. If you can eliminate or minimize the risk (possibly by making the forum more private), then sometimes the benefits can sometimes justify the risks. This calculation may be need to be made for each geographic area.

lol I registered and in order to access "Level 3 Senior Member Private Area" you have to PM the Admin a copy of your next post that you plan on posting on another site, then when you post it on the other site the time and date stamping will prove it's you. Wow. Apparently it's "for everyone's safety". Safety from what, I don't know. It's not like LE doesn't know all about all of these sites. Anyway....without doing the above there is nothing else there to see. Complete waste. Don't bother.

And "John Wise" - men only? LMAO. I has no problem signing up. Get real. And just so you know - I've forgotten more about stripclubs than you'll probably ever know.

BOOOM ! LOPAW WINS AGAIN!

"You should use a proxy on any adult site, especially hobby sites"

Whoa there cowboy. You expect us to know how to use "a proxy"? We don't even know how to send a screenshot.

Besides, everything here on TUSCL is a work of fiction. We don't do anything illegal and we have nothing to hide. (Well, except for this one guy named DougS. He was the master of covert ops. Though I suspect his wife finally did catch him since he hasn't posted in a couple of years).

Lol- dont fuck with lopaw, john wise. She'll hand your ass to ya, fo sho.

Thx for the intel, lopaw. Site sounds like its not worth too much.

@John_Wise:

Is the aforementioned security requirement in fact in place?

What does the new site offer that the existing ones don't?

What makes jumping through the above described hoop worth it?

John_Wise, plenty of monger sites already exist, most with several years of data and a broad base of posters. Senior members already get around posting things on open boards simply by pm'ing each other, at least the ones who even care enough about security to refrain from posting openly. Good luck and all, but I think you are going to have difficulty populating that site with enough useful content when so many other well established sites already exist.

Hey, all. I will jump in here and speak on behalf of the USA Monger Site. Yeah, it's men only, Why? A lot of drama came up on other sites which them limited "true" reviews or "censored" responses. There were also "White Knights" that protected their ATFs, even when they were ROB. NR had the girlie section so, whats the problem? USA MG is real and drama is out the door.

In response to jumping through hoops, I say this: If you are too lazy to work for a nice pay off then you will probably be too lazy to post meaningful information and thus a waste of bandwidth. If you're a lite weight then stay here. If you wanna step up then STEP UP. I don't care what you do. The site is legit but will only be as good as the members.

- Now returning to your regularly scheduled circle jerk -

27ds posted: "- Now returning to your regularly scheduled circle jerk -

As opposed to the self jerking that one would have to do over at that dogshit site, since there is nobody else over there to lend a helping hand. ;)

Oh, and working for a nice payoff. Sure, because it helps me to read a few guys from Detroit posting about one girl or another, as if 4 out of 5 Detroit dancers aren't providing services. Why the fuck these dipshits from Detroit think that they are qualified to host a nationwide monger site, like they have the answers for NY, TX, etc., is beyond me.

I hope they didn't spend too much money on development, lol.

I *already* get a nice, better than nice, payoff from existing sites, *without* having to jump through hoops. Why should I *not* be lazy? What does this new site offer, that I don't already have, to incentivize me to bestir myself on its behalf?

Especially when those hoops don't actually do anything to prevent the the things they ostensibly seek to prevent.

LE involvement? Sorry, chances are that they already have cops posting and reading, whether through their own accounts that have made it through the "checks", or via comprised mongers who've given up their creds in return for a, probably vain, hope of leniency.

White Knights? Good luck. Nobody's hit in that magic pill yet, I'll be surprised if they do.

Drama? You make me laugh.

Can't say how much they paid.

As for qualifications, give me a break. Is there a degree in "Adult Discussion Boards"? It's a service offered to those who chose to use it. The devs don't make the content, the members do. As with anything new, it is a process. You mentioned about content in other states and such. Well no shit, it's fucking new.

If you haven't why not go check it out. You may find that the information is very informative. Yeah, it's not in your area but it would give you an idea about what it can grow into. Maybe you can contribute.

your choice

But again 27d, why should I, or anyone else, go through the time and effort to help build up a site from scratch when other good resources, with lots of "pay off", already exist? I already have access to good club intel and another site for good escort intel, with members on each site that I could pm for more intel was I so inclined. Net-net, I just don't lack for options and I suspect that the same holds true for most seasoned mongers.

But here is another reality. Many hardcore mongers don't share their favorites with anyone, whether by PM or otherwise. Why? Because they don't want to compete for the time and attention of a girl whose services they really like. So instead these guys post often about the second string, but keep their best for themselves. I know that I do and others that I post with elsewhere have expressed similar sentiments.

So with all of that said, I question how much payoff the new site will ever have for me.

Place sounds like a complete waste of time hosted by amatuer wannabes.

The best intel would probably come from alcohol law enforcement officers visiting clubs undercover. They try to catch dancers offering services and probably know a lot. If they've been visiting clubs in an area for years and posting on strip club sites, that sounds like the type of guy who would be accepted at the other site. Then if some other guys post info thinking everything is secret because of extra steps, that just makes their intel better. The only problem is that many dancers only work temporarily at any given club.

lol, I remember one night at one club, everyone thought I was an undercover officer. I didn't figure it out for a while.

shark,

So what did you finally figure out? Why the LE image?

Yawn! Now "wise" up and exit stage right John.

rockie,

"Joined Apr 2005". Don't see you on here often. We can use the input from the TUSCL old timers. :)