The New World Order - Strip Club version
dallas702
Wandering
I walked into a club this afternoon about 3pm, sat at the bar, ordered a drink and smiled at the dancer on a satellite stage a few feet away. After my drink came I stepped over to give the, very cute, young spinner on stage a couple of bucks. Instead of taking my money, she asked if I was interested in "extra" special dances. I replied in the affirmative and she promised to come by. A few minutes after she got off stage she slid up against me and was very clear what she was offering. HJ, BBBJ and full service were available from her in VIP (just booths with limited privacy) for surprisingly reasonable amounts (and even more surprisingly - to me - the amounts were very negotiable).
That makes about a dozen different clubs in five states over the past few months that I have walked in and been offered extras. I am not counting the clubs where dancers know me, just the "new to me" clubs. Every club I have walked into in 2014, I have been offered extras. And the women who are making the offers (at least the ones I am listening to) are good looking and mostly very young.
When did a strip club visit become a "sure thing"?
I remember when it was a big deal if a stripper pulled a chair up close at a table. I remember when strippers did air dances a few feet away from you, and there was no such thing as a lap dance or VIP. Hell, I can even remember when the only stripping happened on a stage you couldn't get close to. I had been going to strip clubs for a couple of years before I even got a "lunch date" with a stripper (and it was just lunch). Over the years, the entertainment has gotten better, the contact improved and, slowly, the opportunities got better. But (it seems to me) the strip club world has changed, dramatically in the past couple of years. Just in the past few years, it seems that in most places across the country - a new generation of strippers have shown up in clubs, strippers who just assume extras are part of the job - and are very OK with that.
What is your impression?
That makes about a dozen different clubs in five states over the past few months that I have walked in and been offered extras. I am not counting the clubs where dancers know me, just the "new to me" clubs. Every club I have walked into in 2014, I have been offered extras. And the women who are making the offers (at least the ones I am listening to) are good looking and mostly very young.
When did a strip club visit become a "sure thing"?
I remember when it was a big deal if a stripper pulled a chair up close at a table. I remember when strippers did air dances a few feet away from you, and there was no such thing as a lap dance or VIP. Hell, I can even remember when the only stripping happened on a stage you couldn't get close to. I had been going to strip clubs for a couple of years before I even got a "lunch date" with a stripper (and it was just lunch). Over the years, the entertainment has gotten better, the contact improved and, slowly, the opportunities got better. But (it seems to me) the strip club world has changed, dramatically in the past couple of years. Just in the past few years, it seems that in most places across the country - a new generation of strippers have shown up in clubs, strippers who just assume extras are part of the job - and are very OK with that.
What is your impression?
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I don't see anything going to the direction you mentioned. Probably because my experience is very different than yours.
I guess for me there were no indication of sliding towards decadence.
I kid you not, I've NEVER been offered extras in 4 years and some change of clubbing. That said, most of my clubbing has been done in Virginia or states that closely surround it. In other words, areas where high mileage and things like extras are much more of the exception than the norm.
Exactly. And also a very cyclical thing, as well as political. And personally I think in large part even a generational thing.
We all know of cities that have gone thru mileage cycles, based on things like political atmosphere. Just look at Phoenix for example. At one time it was super high mileage in many clubs, then it went thru a drought, and only in recent years has mileage returned. Tampa was the same way for a while.
Hell, New York City at one time in the distant past had some insane clubs for all kinds of crazy stuff, out in the open. But now it's shut down tighter than, well, something that's very tight.
Even club ownership can change things drastically.
Personally, in the LA area I see things moving into a bit of a drought in terms of hot dancers and high mileage. Doesn't mean you can't find it, but it just seems to be getting much tougher to get good value in the clubs.
Vikings, if you are stuck going to low mileage clubs in low mileage states, then you should look into OTC. That can be available even in a low mileage club.
Ski, good points but if that's the price we have to pay then so be it. I love having sex with strippers.
Also I agree with shadow too.
WTF skibum? That makes no sense. Many countries with legalized prostitution have lower crime rates than the US. Crime rates in the US have largely been falling since the early '80s. Poverty and income inequality has been increasing, but it seems you're painting the situation with a mighty broad brush.
Tell the truth...are you a cranky ol' white dude who digs guns? Go see a hooker...it'll make you less cranky!
AA: Keep it to yourself!
(Obscure 80s film reference)
Mind you it wouldn't have been exceeding my expectations like, say...doin' a gangbang on Hermione with my good bud Dobby the Elf. My dick up Ms. Granger's magical poop chute...that would be real life exceeding expectations WEEE-YAWWW!!!!
@pensionking - a classic line!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2kQBFNn4nx…
Just be aware that some wet-blanket members on here frown upon the posting film references, obscure or otherwise apparently
Fuck those people.
@electro - Indeed, great observation.
You should know, however, that some killjoy members on here regard the whole idea of going to Detroit to visit the strip clubs as rather frivolous and think it should be low priority.
+ I think the current generation that grew up w/ readily available porn on the internet (vs a youngster having to go and try to rent an x-rated film @ the video store as back in the day) – and grew up watching sex-laden music videos; and the current generation where young girls of age (18+ or even slightly younger) can get paid for sex w/o having to stand in a street corner in a bad neighborhood (e.g. Backpage) – have all worked towards kinda desensitizing getting paid for sex – not to mention that porn stars in the past 15 yrs or so have become more mainstream; kinda glamorized; and more socially/mainstream accepted
+ maybe it’s a progression of the “strip club dance continuum†where it started w/ no-touch air dances and has progressed to lap-dances which are basically sex with clothes on (but very very little clothes on the stripper and sometimes no clothing LDs) – so fucking a custie w/ a condom on it’s not as huge of a difference vs giving a high contact LD but the dancer is getting paid anywhere from 5x to 10x+ the dance price
+ more $$$ for less hustle/work – depending on the club; a dancer can make what she wants/needs in a shift w/ maybe just 2 extras sessions vs having to hustle custies all-night long to convince them to get dances and get multiple dances at that
It def has to do with geo location as has been mentioned – but also perhaps younger guys may not be offered extras as much b/c:
+ dancers may assume he may not have the big bucks for the extras?
+ dancers may assume young guys can more easily/readily get non-p4p sex outside the club and may not be interested in paying the big bucks for extras (whereas an old guy may be perceived as been much more eager to have sex w/ a hot young girl and also having less options to do so non-p4p)?
I started SCing when I was 30 and I also used to look younger than my age at that time (was in better shape) and I was not offered extras too often at all whereas now I’m offered it a lot more often at 44 y/o
Although I think geography plays a role, at the end of the day, it all comes down to the girl. I don't care what restrictions a club has. If you've got a girl who is with your agenda, whatever the both of you wanna do is gonna happen. Are there risks? Sure there are but they're lowered considerably, when the girl is on board. Hell, the risks can give you a serious rush and even add to the excitement!
Look, I've been in the game for a minute (25 years). I've seen and done some of everything with strippers, from the gutter most to the uttermost (dated, lived with, paid sex, free sex, pimped, put through school, paid bills, etc.) and I'm telling you, it's about the girl.
I've done things at clubs that I never even bothered sharing with anyone, bc I knew they wouldn't have believed me. Screw a LD. If you've got the right girl, you can fuck right at the bar! Just make sure they always remember; the best place to hide a dick is in a PUSSY!! - LOL
When I was young and in shape, I did not have trouble meeting willing young women in civilian bars, clubs and elsewhere. But, strippers were less available. I didn't understand that weird reversal. But eventually I recognized that it is both a financial preconception and a personal choice made by strippers.
As I added decades (and a few pounds) I discovered strippers were more available, just as civi chicks became less impressed with my approach. A very real part of the difference has been the stripper's perception that the young guy is NOT going to spend (as much) money on her as the older guy. I believe that it is also true that the stripper's experience has often taught her that she is "safer" with an older guy.
So, I have known for years that as an older PL my batting average was going to go up. I am still amazed at the readily available, almost joyfully offered extras now available in clubs!!!!! ;)
Honestly, your bemoaning the dirth of extras from Alberta strippers, is belied by the success you enjoy connecting with personable young damsels in various clubs in your area!
Ok – I gotta fess up – I copied that stuff above from an old Juice post
Often times extras may be easier during dayshift perhaps b/c:
+ less custy pickings for the dancers so less potential for $$$ for the dancers
+ more older/experienced dancers during dayshift that know the game and may need to do extras in order to attract more interest
+ during nightshift – more custies to choose from and more potential $$$ w/o having to do extras – often young and prettier girls that are not into giving extras or may need to b/c of their youth and good looks
Finally, club owners are less aggressive preventing contact lab dances. They too are feeling the pinch of the lack luster economy. They have rent, property and school taxes, utility bills to pay. I noticed the other day when I walked into my favorite SC, the lights in the lap dance room appeared dimmer than usual. The message was clearly written.
Then paste (“Ctrl†+ ‘v’ keys simultaneously) in the TUSCL post-message area and a hyperlink will automatically be created once message is posted.
But once you can contact her, then it puts her into a situation rather like being an escort. So some will accept this and go along with it. Then this bleeds back into the ITC mileage, because ITC mileage is actually a better way for the girls to make money. It is fun for the customers too because see - want - get is much more of a power trip than is making an appointment.
When compliance with a body of law drops below a certain level, then the law does become unenforceable. LE has to give up, because turning too large a body of persons into criminals is doing more harm than good. We may be right on that threshold now.
Recently I have noticed that many of the Portland Clubs use this system xoticspot
http://www.xoticspot.com/clubs/Oregon
So you can follow dancers from club to club, and they each can have a photo gallery and a blog. You can even contact them. So this does change the strip club environment, and it is presenting each of the dancers as if she were an escort. So of course there will be more OTC and the ITC mileage will go up too.
I read about this Vegas VIP Room in Beaverton. Just a few dancers in the day time, and it sounds like they try to pair you off with a dancer right away. So it is not a place to come and hang out and watch all of them. Then there is the VIP room. Then they give you 30min to talk to the dancer after your VIP room visit has been completed?
I would love this, but it does sound strange. Is this extra time to talk after full satisfaction? Or is it really a way to give us longer nicer sessions?
Some say there are cameras everywhere. So I don't know. Sounds like it might not even be a strip club. Don't know.
http://www.viproompdx.com/
san_jose_guy
Is the hyperlink creation process different for Reviews than it is for Discussions, or are hyperlinks not allowed in the Reviews?
Also, in Discussions, will it automatically know I'm trying to create a link, or will it need to have www or http in front of it?
Maybe you should send Founder a screenshot
Does the link have to begin with www or http?
Before cell phones (early 90s), we used beepers. I was married then. The girls we dealt with were really good about getting back to us. There was no problem getting in touch with girls outside of the club.
There's nothing new under the sun. This is just a different time with a newer technology.