Tiffany's post about having fun got me to thinking. Maybe it's just me, but it seems that I've been hearing a lot more complaints from dancers than I used to - management treating them poorly, money not as good, customers ingoring the rules and demanding extras, etc. Are others hearing this too? And if so, why? What has changed - managers, customers, dancers, me, all of the above? Anyway, I don't think a lot of clubs are as much fun as they used to be. Or maybe I just no longer get to where the good clubs are. But I've found myself losing interest lately, not in the girls, just the clubs.
I think that younger guys have less interest in strip clubs than we did at their age because so much sex is readily available now for free. Seeing a naked girl just isn't as big of a novelty as it used to be. And I also think that a lot of older guys are going the escort route because it's cheaper and more of a sure thing. Clubs also lost a lot of expense account business when IRS rules changed. There's a whole lot more competition for strip clubs than used to be the case. Add that all up and strip clubs customers are declining. And there are more girls dancing.
I don't think younger guys are falling victim of the "shop at home" mentality you describe. They are just as common in the stripclubs I visit as older folks. The real question is whether they will still be there in 10 years, which I doubt will happen, simply because most stripclub visitors do not eventually become regulars. But then, a new generation will come along.
I can see how the internet is killing the porn video and magazine business but the day I prefer a file over a hot woman on my lap is the day they burry me. Still, I think that some younger guys may be falling victim to the "shop at home" syndrome both out of convenience and to save money. Personaly, I still prefer the real thing.
Too many mediocre clubs and lazy dancers make for a glutted market of bad places. It's bad manners to complain to customers, but the dancers and the managers don't care.
I see many more dancers complaining as club owners and managers hire too many girls to compensate for falling revenues.
The recovering economy will not trickle down to the clubs the way it has in the past. Business has recovered through lay-offs, out-sourcing and belt-tightening. Expense account lunches at SC's are a thing of the past. Dispossable income is a thing of the past for many as they have taken paycuts or had to take lower paying jobs. George Bush's "recovery" is all about the success of big business-not the average guy.
Yes. I have also heard more complaints recently from accross the board.
I like to use the clubs as a barometer of the overall economy. If the clubs are doing well and flush with money, then the economy is doing very well.
All indicators have the economy up, but I sense that it has not reached the general population yet. The disposable income is not back to the level before the decline in the stock market and economy.
We go to the clubs to have fun and when the management and dancers are all bummed out, it affects our fun. We go for fun and if the attitude is not fun, then we feel the effect. If the dancers and management make it a fun environment, then we would spend more and then everyone would have more fun.
I gruntled a dancer once, it cost me an extra $40. Seriously, I think strip clubs are suffering the same effects as the traditional porn mags are. Why pay for it when you can get it free on the internet. In the case of strip clubs you can see girls dressed about the same as the stripper costumes in most cities if you go to the right clubs. They may not actually strip, but considering that a lot of dance clubs (not strip clubs) now include the brass pole and platforms as part of the dance floor there isn't much reason for younger guys to go to the strip clubs. As we older guys get married, retire, or expire the customer base is just shrinking. Also remember that 20 years ago the boomers were averaging 30 years old, prime strip club age.
I don't think that strip clubs are a good indicator of the overall economy. Maybe that was true in the past but I don't think it is anymore. I think strip club business is declining because the number of customers is declining, and it doesn't make any difference what the economy does, they're still going to decline. A few clubs may be able to prosper by providing excellent value, but most are declining. When a club makes it's money by hiring too many dancers instead of attracting more customers, that's a sure sign that they are in trouble.
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I don't think younger guys are falling victim of the "shop at home" mentality you describe. They are just as common in the stripclubs I visit as older folks. The real question is whether they will still be there in 10 years, which I doubt will happen, simply because most stripclub visitors do not eventually become regulars. But then, a new generation will come along.
The recovering economy will not trickle down to the clubs the way it has in the past. Business has recovered through lay-offs, out-sourcing and belt-tightening. Expense account lunches at SC's are a thing of the past. Dispossable income is a thing of the past for many as they have taken paycuts or had to take lower paying jobs. George Bush's "recovery" is all about the success of big business-not the average guy.
I like to use the clubs as a barometer of the overall economy. If the clubs are doing well and flush with money, then the economy is doing very well.
All indicators have the economy up, but I sense that it has not reached the general population yet. The disposable income is not back to the level before the decline in the stock market and economy.
We go to the clubs to have fun and when the management and dancers are all bummed out, it affects our fun. We go for fun and if the attitude is not fun, then we feel the effect. If the dancers and management make it a fun environment, then we would spend more and then everyone would have more fun.