Freedom of Speech my Friends...

PS my pervo bros. Truth is that I'd rather have a better poster child than somebody who lied. Plus I know there is complexity -- blackmail would be a concern in some position. But c'mon folks, if we support freedom we should support freedom

On the other hand Tiffany worked HARD for her money. That babe too a dick in each hole like a champ. AT THE SAME TIME!!!

Isn't that the work ethic we want in our teachers?

Oops. ...took a dick in each hole...

To be fair, I can see a discipline issue when kids can watch their teacher sucking cock. But I'm not sure how far I want both legal protection against discrimination against sex workers on the one hand, and the ability of a school district to hire and fire teachers as they see necessary.

It's like Ice-T once said-"Freedom of speech, just watch what you say."

True dat rockstar...like I said, she wasn't a perfect poster child.

But teaching student that they need to respect the position of teacher even if they've seen film of her takin' a cock up the pooper might be good for the kids. Overall we need to be less uptight

I say anything that gets more hot chicks to take it up the ass, on film or otherwise, is soopah-groove-EE!!!!

Oops ...teaching students...

What she was doing was not illegal and (I'm gonna sound like Alucard) getting paid for it shouldn't be illegal in many parts of the country (personally I am still against it for the disease factor and pregnancy factor). They are all consenting adults and the kids went looking where they shouldn't have. The school should have busted their asses, but ya know, they will expel a kid for forming a gun with his hand while playing soldier in the school yard.

This is the first I've heard of tiffany six. Too bad her students ratted her out, I would have loved to have had a pornstar for a teacher, lol!

That being said, if I had children I would not want her near them!

@sofaking87: Why do you think a porn star would be a threat to your children?

How about dancers? Lots of them are moms and some are really good moms.

0 issue with either of them being fired.

I'm very vocal about my opinion that teachers should be better paid so I have no issue with saying they should be held to high standards of conduct.

With this issue....

I agree if she told the truth during the hiring process and the school hired her. She should still be teaching. because like people have stated it was a legal profession, between consenting adults, and she told the truth. Case closed. School couldn't fire her because she told the truth and didn't lie on the application. But I could see how she would have a hard time with parents and students keeping a classroom in check. Like when you mentioned they could find a film with her taking it from 7 different cocks all at once....LOL

Now people saying she is a threat to children, etc. I don't think so. It is still the old stigmatism of sex work in general....Not prostitution...but nude modeling, stripping, legal porn acting. People view sex as dirty and should be whispered about and only talked about in the bedroom or at a stag party.

But agree with the freedom of personal choice that is with our country. Just like the other thread....the guy is saying and preaching his beliefs and his personal choices. if nothing contractual was broken...A&E could be in world of hurt...again "if" nothing contractual was broken.

Many should read the 1st Amendment.

Here's an idea. Maybe we should pay teachers enough so they don't have to do gangbangs for money.

@carl95 -- agreed. Paying teachers enough that any gangbangs they do are for fun (and unfilmed) would be good.

@crsm27 -- to be fair, I've only seen a video with her taking 3 cocks at once. Do more dudes join in later? not like i've watched the whole video. If you've seen a more extensive gangbang...DON'T BOGART THE PORN my friend. Let's have a link!

Wait, I know how to get rehired...maybe there should be a rule like "max # of cocks is set by # of holes normally used for sex -- if you've got a dick in each hole & dudes are standing around waiting their turn you've crossed a line". Would work if she's never actually had a 7 cock gangbang...

Seriously though, i would like to see government entities held to a higher standard regarding their regulation of private behavior. The first amendment says:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The spirit of the law, in my opinion, is that the government lays off our freedoms. I have no issue with a private entity having contractual obligations that you not say certain things. I suspect A&E knows whether they can suspend given their contract.

I just don't have much sympathy for the Duck Dynasty dude -- if he feels aggrieved -- since it was private entities having a dispute. However, the dude may have actually wanted out of his contract and decided not to self-censor. Could actually increase appearance fees for audiences that agree with him. I have more sympathy for Tiffany (or would if she hadn't lied).

Out of curiosity zip how would you feel if Tiffany had gotten fired because she was an active member in the KKK? We'll presume she kept that portion of her life totally private.

Do they let chicks join the Klan?

@jester214 -- it would depend. In the hypothetical I posed Tiffany was a former pornstar who hadn't lied about her past. If we swapped KKK for pornstar in that hypothetical AND there was no evidence she was grading unfairly I say keep her job.

The one difference between KKK and pornstar is that -- if you believe what the KKK believes -- non-whites are inferior. If that translated to unequal grading or treatment it would interfere with her job. Pornstar isn't associated with a similar ideology that could interfere with the duties of being a teacher (except discipline issues). Under 18 kids shouldn't be looking at porn so basically teaching them that they have to respect her could actually be a positive (in a perfect wold -- not so much in the real world).

If Tiffany were an active KKK member but kept it private and there is zero evidence she was grading unfairly I'd support her staying on. That's a tougher call. Remember, I altered Tiffany's case to pose a hypothetical. I don't have a problem with her being fired for actively filming gangbangs as a teacher (likely contrary to her contract) and then lying about it. Plus, if a person actually believes KKK ideology one would expect unequal treatment. Said teacher should be fired for that. If she's an active KKK member she probably believes what they sell.

If she was former KKK but then rejected KKK ideology, zero problem. Again, if students found out it could be a "teachable moment".

Just to expand a bit...my problem would be with actions in the present. Not the past. Especially for an arm of the govt they should be as open as humanly possible and that includes things like porno Tiffany (if my hypothetical were true) and a former KKK member.

To make it concrete, I remember a documentary that showed a pre-teen neo-Nazi group called Prussian Blue. Apparently, the have given up being neo-Nazis:

en.wikipedia.org

If those girls wanted to teach or do something else, shouldn't the question be "will they be unfair to non-whites now?" and not "were they ever Nazis?" (Easier in their case since they were under 18 when they were Nazis, but still...)