MSNBC Fires Martin Bashir

In a PC World when you say stuff like that on a National network...well, look what happened. Predictable.

Imagine if some news guy said that someone should take a shit in Obama's mouth. He would have been fired LAST week.

Jabthehut dude...you might be right, but I don't think the reason is the same. Say what you will about Obama, he has zero reaction to the stupid criticism. People call him a socialist, atheist, Muslim, homosexual from Kenya and the love child of Malcolm X all the time. He really doesn't react. He also doesn't say shit that has any logical connection to "see how you'd like being whipped, doused with brine, having somebody shit in your mouth, and then having a gag placed on you".

The stupid Obama criticism creates a problem IMO. It blunts real criticism and debate. Rather than debating whether his use of drones is counterproductive we hear that he's a Marxist. Rather than debating his administration's use of the NSA we hear that he was born in Kenya. Frankly, if he was a Kenyan and neither McCain nor Romney were smart enough to find evidence...well just let's say I wouldn't want them as president if they could dig up that evidence. But the country SHOULD be discussing real issues and we're not.

OTOH, Palin is her royal majesty, QUEEN OF THE TROLLS. Palin compares the national debt to slavery. Say what you will about the debt, it ain't slavery. It isn't in the same ballpark. Liberals are outraged. Palin doesn't apologize. Bashir essentially say "how would you like to be treated like a slave and cite a disgusting example from the history of Jamaica". Palin and right-wingers are outraged. Consequences ensue.

Bashir SHOULDN'T have apologized. He should have said "I won't apologize for what I said. Ms. Palin compared the debt to slavery. There are important issues associated with debt, but if you think the Chinese are going to sail across the Pacific and enslave us like white folks enslaved Africans you should shut up. I gave an example of what real slavery was. Obviously I don't wish anybody would defecate in Ms. Palin's mouth or on her."

And if he was coo-el, he would have added "Unless, of course, Ms. Palin digs the Hot Karls. In which case it is my sincere hope that Mr. Palin accommodates her. Good for a relationship to accommodate you partner's wishes, doncha know..."

Palin is way smarter than we give her credit for. She trolls the left knowing somebody will slip and say something over the line. Then she cries bloody murder. Bashir fell into her troll trap. And he got his ass fired for it. At least standing firm would have allowed him to leave MSNBC as a rebel. He could have been a hero. Instead he was a dumbass.

Oops... "Bashir essentially says..."

About fuckin' time.

The story is *not* that he was fired, but that it took so damned long for MSNBC to do it.

The most bigoted people I have ever met in my entire life are Progressives and Liberals. They are also the worst hypocrites in history with their inane yammering about diversity and multi-culturalism, when they are in fact merely surface diverse and have brought group think to a new level. Obama is the worst President ever. Period. His impact on America will be felt in a negative way for years. The idea that criticizing him is racist is in fact racist itself. It is not the right who views everything through a lens of race, gender, and sexuality, but that's all the left does. Obama is simply a slightly smarter version of the famous empty suit we call John Kerry. He was elected because the left found a black man (sorta) that did not speak or look like Al Sharpton. Big deal.

"The most bigoted people I have ever met in my entire life are Progressives and Liberals"

IME it has been persons at the opposite end of the political continuum than those mentioned in the above quote.

Zipman with some very astute observations. I can't cosign that Liberals or Progressives are the most bigoted people or that Conservatives are the most bigoted people, either. Our President hasn't done a good job. Neither did the former President. Both sides, liberal and conservative, are hypocrites.

Zipman, the good book does have something interesting to say about debt.


Proverbs 22:7 (NIV)

The rich rule over the poor,
and the borrower is slave to the lender.


Just sayin....

What do those who are Bashir supporters have to say about the McDonald's worker in Detroit, Ricardo Jackson, who said, "It's deplorable for people to work wages, slave wages, in the 21st century evolutionary country."
How many slaves made $7.40 an hour?

I forgot to mention that he is one of the employees who walked out and are striking for $15 per hour^^^^

@jabthehut the McD's worker didn't say anything about shitting and pissing on Don Thompson.

@zipman the reason Bashir had to appologize/quit is that the network needs to keep a higher standard than the Palin/Limbaugh/Gohmert types so they can look down on them and continue to shame them for the things they say

As for who will replace him... I imagine Joy Reid as she seems to be filling in (remember to turn to the channel today to check) and she has often done filler hosting. Plus I think they would want to get another dark skinned host, so if not her then perhaps Jonathan Capehart (he's also gay so gets bonus liberal points)

@Jabthehut -- I'm not a Bashir supporter per se. I' just saying that if he was a cool dude who had any guts he would have exited being a rebel when forced out. As carl95 says MSNBC as a network can't afford to keep folks that paint a target on themselves. Bashir had to apologize because he wanted his job back. Dude shouldn't have responded to Palin's trolling. Lost his job 'cos he did.

@likes2look -- you're missing the whole "Palin is a troll" point. Like her declaration at one point that attacks on her were "blood libel". Followed by saying "I didn't know there were any connotations of anti-semitism". Palin says outrageous shit with just enough plausible deniability so her supporters can go apeshit when somebody responds. I'm actually surprised that she didn't quote proverbs saying "of course this is all I meant, nobody should have interpreted it as a reference to race-based slavery...my opponents are SO thin skinned doncha know..." Maybe wink so the conservative men will go ga ga.

Stand by my statement that Palin is smarter than most people think. She enjoys playing gotcha and says shit like this so she can do so. Bashir got himself super double-bluff trolled by the QUEEN OF TROLLS. Dude lost. You don't troll a troll my friends.

Shit Palin is such a good troll that SHE SHOULD POST HERE!!!!

carl, Bashir said what he did because Palin said, "Our free stuff today is being paid for by taking money from our children and borrowing from China. When that money comes due – and this isn’t racist, but it’ll be like slavery when that note is due. We are going to beholden to the foreign master."
I merely pointed out that it was ONLY that Palin used slavery/slave that Bashir said what he did.

zipper, I agree that Bashir shouldn't have commented in the manner he did, but Palin wasn't trolling. She made the comments to a group of like minded people. If she was talking directly to Bashir it might be considered trolling.

Liberals say "Don't inject context into this conversation, jabthehut!"

They probably don't even understand that quote.