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Big Brother

Wednesday, November 6, 2013 12:38 PM
Big Brother is Watching. Do you want black boxes in your vehicle tracking your every movement or use of traffic cameras to do the same. LE is now using traffic cameras to track your movements via your license plate and computer software to identify your vehicle as it passes those cameras. This technology was used to track the Boston bomber and has been used in NYC to track suspected criminals/terrorists as well as other people just in the wrong place. A Southern California M.A.D. town council member proposed that this system be used to stop, detain and test any/all drivers who stopped at a tavern, bar, or liquor store on suspicion of DUI and use the cameras as evidence in court whether you had drank alcohol or not to prove dangerous behavior. She also proposed a 0.00 limit when the state has a 0.08 limit. The problem I have is many cop are willing to go along with this travesty. I have met federal ATF agents in my life and I was in fear of my life while in their presence. They all struck me as criminals hiding behind a badge. I have friends that have been trained as Seals and Rangers and I never felt unsafe around them. In fact a Ranger/FBI agent told me that I would be shocked as to the number of crimes committed by federal agents with the full knowledge/blind eye of their superiors. He claimed crimes were done mostly by ATF, DEA, and IRS and the FBI investigations were either blocked by upper level officials or powerful politicos of either party. Do you want some faceless bureaucrat building an electronic dossier on you to be used at their whim to force you to withdraw a complaint. Playing devils advocate to see how y'all react.

45 comments

  • crazyjoe
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    11 years ago
    Do you know what is the biggest street ganf in America? The cops
  • jackslash
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    11 years ago
    It is frightening. Black boxes, security cameras, digital cameras, smart phones, email, internet--all ways to track our physical movements and our thoughts and interests. Governments, corporations and individuals have ways to spy on us in ways much more invasive than in the book 1984. Much information we have to provide for such things as income tax, drivers license, and credit cards. Other information we voluntarily put on Facebook and other internet sites. I don't think our current government is trying to target me or enslave me. The NSA doesn't care about me. But in the future there may be less benign governments and corporations that could use all this information to control us completely.
  • jester214
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    11 years ago
    I'm not worried.
  • dallas702
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    11 years ago
    1984
  • deogol
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    11 years ago
    The idea of registering your guns sounded good... until Hitler came to power. Personally, I think there is a revolution brewing in this country. Alatard best watch out!
  • SlickSpic
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    11 years ago
    The people in charge have been doing this for years. They started it off with the Big Black Box in The Sky.
  • Dougster
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    11 years ago
    Alutard would probably love to live in such a society. Well would say he would until there was something that he didn't like - they tracked his visits to hookers - then he would bitch like hell the other way.
  • DoctorPhil
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    11 years ago
    @Dougster. alucard falls into that pathetic category of useful idiots. he imagines himself with a seat at the table making decisions about how things should be and who should live and who should die. in truth he and his ilk don’t get that seat but they get a bullet to the head instead.
  • gawker
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    11 years ago
    Being paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't really watching. I've always lived most of my life as an open book. I'm not as comfortable with that as I used to be.
  • crazyjoe
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    11 years ago
    He is a punk ass bitch
  • Papi_Chulo
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    11 years ago
    The bigger the government, the more people are forced to serve *it* rather than the other way around. The biggest form of government is communism; how has that worked out? Those that say they are not worried - well probably neither was most of Eastern Europe in the mid 20th century. The bigger the government; the bigger the bad consequences from it (e.g. police state; major corruption; exponential inefficiency; etc.).
  • bang69
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    11 years ago
    I'm not worried
  • sclvr5005
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    11 years ago
    Get over it.
  • jester214
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    11 years ago
    "Those that say they are not worried - well probably neither was most of Eastern Europe in the mid 20th century." I'm pretty sure they were all quite worried.
  • Lone_Wolf
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    11 years ago
    Pretty amazing really. Using cell phones, video cams, bank records etc... almost our every move can be tracked. Whenever a major crime is committed, I'm often surprised how the authorities are able to track the movement of the criminals. Our phones are reporting where we are every second.
  • Ermita_Nights
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    11 years ago
    Can we somehow tap in to this system to determine the locations of the hottest strippers on any given night?
  • sharkhunter
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    11 years ago
    probably if you were in the NSA you could secretly take pics on people's smart phones and send them to yourself if there is a secret code to take pics without the camera sound turning on. They probably haven't developed a hack to take pics of everyone and identify who is a hot dancer or hot girl and then alert a live agent with a hit naked girl alert. Someone might think about it after I post it though. Our government likes to waste money so someone will want to work on it.
  • TxVegas
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    11 years ago
    Nice Ermita, that is an app with a purpose.
  • azdd
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    11 years ago
    Google glass is going to take the privacy discussion to an entirely new level. While wearing these devices, everything seen and heard will be instantly uploaded to the Internet, while being simultaneously analyzed for marketing data. Good luck staying off the grid now bitches!
  • jabthehut
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    11 years ago
    Hey Doc, idiot yes, useful no.
  • bubbaloo
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    11 years ago
    People vote for socialists and then they wonder how we get socialism. If you let the government supply all your needs (including healthcare) they are going to control your life. Look at England and Europe- cameras everywhere. Laws about everything. Grow up. Support yourself. Take care of your own business, don't expect other people to pay your way. Don't vote for socialists.
  • deogol
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    11 years ago
    Grow up - LOL. The public is growing up less and less these days. From being required to kill in war of 18 year olds sign up with the military to not being allowed to have a beer. There are examples every where. It won't end well.
  • juiicebox69
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    11 years ago
    My big bro is in my profil he be all I neeed !
  • Alucard
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    11 years ago
    "Big Brother is Watching." Too bad for you considering your feelings about democratic government.
  • Dougster
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    11 years ago
    ^^^ His feelings??? You are one who wants to outlaw the NRA, hence you don't even support freedom of association/freedom of speech. Only in your own psycho/retarded mind can you consider yourself democratic.
  • baconator
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    11 years ago
    Oh fuck, that nutjob is a star trek fan too? Fuck him.
  • Alucard
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    11 years ago
    I wasn't talking to your stupid fucking ass Dougster.
  • londonguy
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    11 years ago
    You guys have it ok by comparison to us, we have more cctv per head of population than any other country in the world.
  • Dougster
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    11 years ago
    @alutard: Lookie here, psycho, if you post your idiotic comments here PUBLICALLY then I have every right to comment on them WHETHER you like it or not. Don't like it? Well that is just TOO DAMN BAD! The solution is pretty simple. Don't want me to comment, then post your comment in this PUBLIC forum. Or maybe your TINY creature brain does have enough NEUROS to figure that out? Hmmmmm? LMFAO!
  • Alucard
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    11 years ago
    ^^^ You're such a pathetic asshole fool Dougster. You CAN'T even think up your own insults to hurl at me. LOL!! You have STEAL mine to try to insult me. GROW a brain & compose your own. LMFAOROTF!
  • Dougster
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    11 years ago
    Yep, I've never thought up my own insults of you before, now have I? Like detailing your mania, narcissism, masochism and Oedipus complex, for example. This time I thought I would just satirize you for a change. Might want to think (is that even possible with your "brain" though, I wonder) before you speak in the future.
  • tumblingdice
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    11 years ago
    Alushithead,repeat after me,"This is the end,my only friend the end".ROFL,LOL,LMFAO,URAJO,STUPMOFO,ASSWP.
  • Clubber
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    11 years ago
    Where I live, tolls are paid electronically as you pass a radio receiver overhead. I am surprised they have yet to run tracking software that tells them you made it from point "A" to "B" in 10 minutes. At the legal speed limit, it should take you 12 minutes. In the mail comes a speeding ticket!
  • georgmicrodong
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    11 years ago
    @Clubber: On the NYS Thruway, they used to do exactly that type of thing. The date/time you entered is stamped on your toll ticket. If your travel time between your entrance and your exit was less than a certain threshold, the toll operator would signal the police and they'd get you leaving the toll both. The toll ticket time stamps were considered as good as radar at one time. I have no idea if they still do that.
  • Clubber
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    11 years ago
    gmd, I think they used to do that in the early days of the Florida Turnpike, but no more. One trick people used to do to save some bucks was to exchange tickets with someone at the service plazas going in the opposite direction. One could save quite a few $'s that way.
  • motorhead
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    11 years ago
    Nothing new. Aliens have been watching us for millions of years.
  • Clubber
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    11 years ago
    motor, I thought we weren't suppose to talk about that among the earthlings.
  • ATACdawg
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    11 years ago
    Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that somebody is really out to get you!
  • Alucard
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    11 years ago
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that somebody is really out to get you!" Tiredtraveler seems to think so.
  • skibum609
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    11 years ago
    The only mistake that Orwell made when writing 1984, the most prescient book in history was the idea that Government itself would impose the controls upon us. We do it to ourselves every time we use a credit card, the atm, debit card, go on line, sign up on a website, leave our computer on etc.
  • farmerart
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    11 years ago
    Never forget about the security offered by the old methods of communication and the solidity of the old methods of doing business. Wireline phones are infinitely more secure than any wireless phone. Snail mail beats e-mail all to hell for security. Cash beats cards as payment method. Barter and hand shake deals in business are clean and leave no paper trail. For wireless communication Blackberry is still trusted by POTUS.....me too. Just a few examples....1984 is long in the past.....and 2084 is years ahead of us.
  • dallas702
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    11 years ago
    Farmerart, I agree with you - adding one provision - in a world full of cheap, high image quality, digital security cameras nothing is truly secure anymore. A store security camera saw you use the payphone. The camera on a lightpole recorded you mailing that envelope. Your face (and your conversation with the cashier) is forever retained by the cash register camera where you paid cash. And facial recognition software is getting very good. I prefer cash transactions. I often turn off my non-smart phone and I have disabled the GPS. But I know that there is no way to live among people and be "off the grid." Big Brother is watching. On the other hand, Big Brother may be watching - but if the US roll-out of Obamacare is any example, Big Brother is fumbling and incompetent! And I do believe, at least the US federal, big government is incapable of getting anything right. I am more at risk from the Feds raiding my house because some dufus screwed up the address of a drug dealer in another state than I am from any intentional act by my government!
  • SlickSpic
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    11 years ago
    Shop at your local farmer's market. One on one with the farmer and cash. No middleman. A small start.
  • farmerart
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    11 years ago
    @dallas702, I must bring to your attention a big caveat to the bleak scenario that you portray. You are talking about urban areas of North America. Granted, that is where probably 85% of North America's population resides. However, those of us who live in rural areas or who operate businesses in isolated areas of the world are largely immune to the intrusions that you cite. The simple fact of the isolation of the farm where I live and of the isolation of the areas where I operate my business grants me a level of security not available to urbanites. I didn't do this consciously; it is just a function of the way my life has evolved. Satellites and drones exist, of course, but they are not as ubiquitous as are CCT cameras in urban areas. I have no fear of the technological intrusions that you posit.
  • Alucard
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    11 years ago
    Go find a cave in some high mountain dallas702 and invite your fellow believers to live there with you. You MIGHT be unobserved if you don't wander outside. LOL
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