Ok to declline repeat offender during Dollar Parade?
Draper
New Jersey
Only saw one dollar parade post from a couple years back so hope it's ok to make another.
So I would personally never decline tipping a girl on her first parade pass by when she gets off stage to make her rounds. But I start debating on the second and even third pass if I need to tip her again, especially if I didn't watch her when she was actually on stage or if I'm just not interested in that particular dancer.
Any suggestions on polite ways to decline, or am I just at the mercy of the parade?
Link to other Dollar Parade Post in case anyone not from NJ area isn't familiar:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=1…
So I would personally never decline tipping a girl on her first parade pass by when she gets off stage to make her rounds. But I start debating on the second and even third pass if I need to tip her again, especially if I didn't watch her when she was actually on stage or if I'm just not interested in that particular dancer.
Any suggestions on polite ways to decline, or am I just at the mercy of the parade?
Link to other Dollar Parade Post in case anyone not from NJ area isn't familiar:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=1…
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On busy nights (Fr/Sat) you can sometimes get hit with 3 dancers approaching you for a tip within the time of just one song (I guess the dancers took different routes during the tip parade when they got off stage and thus got to me close to each other?).
It is not rare for me to spend 3 and sometimes 4 hours in a SC – so the tip parade shit can become frustrating.
I will usually tip the 1st hour I’m there and by then I’ve tipped most if not all the dancers – but often will stop after the 1st hour.
Some dancers will at least grind their ass on you or let you get a feel when they ask for a tip – but some dancer will stand a foot away from you – just pull on the side of the G-string for you to put the $$$ in – and barely make eye contact w/ you.
I would not ever see myself participating in a "walk by parade for $". I am not a penny pincher, but very rarely do VIPs either.
kittykate thanks for jumping in. In my area during day shifts you may get the 4-5 girls per hour and no that doesn't break the bank, and again if it was one round of tips per dancer that'd be fine. But when it's repeat rounds for a girl just sleepwalking by you that you didn't watch on stage then it gets frustrating, because that can quickly add up to bigger tips or a dance for a girl that's putting forth the effort and deserves it.
Slick--Maybe we can start a organize a protest to put an end to ridiculous, awkward and often humiliating tip walks.
One time was approached by two dancers double teaming trying to sweet talk me into getting a dance. After saying no thanks, they asked for a tip. I'd rather not but decided to anyway with a dollar to each. Then one dancer acted insulted I was only giving her a dollar saying I needed it more with an attitude and gave it back. Then she made the other dancer give her dollar back which I could tell she did not want to do. Then in a huff, she walked off. I never asked them to sit with me. I moved and sat elsewhere hoping to avoid hustlers like that. Less than 15 minutes later they tried the same thing not even recognizing one of the guys they just irritated. I got rid of them lightnng quick, no tip the second time.
The solo trips are a tougher gig, and playing musical chairs just because I don't want to tip a girl for the third time in 5-10 minutes isn't fun for the customer or dancer. I think the occasional "I'm sorry, not now" suggestion from kittykate may be the way to go...I don't think I should feel in the wrong and hopefully the dancer isn't totally offended if I previously tipped her that night.
No, here it's generally because few or no people came to tip her on stage. The reasons for this are myriad, including the dancer being ugly, or severely overweight, or there being on a few customers and they're all talking to girls in whom they're actually *interested*.
As for me, if I want to tip, I go to the stage and do it, or I specifically offer to tip in exchange for a little boob groping. If someone I'm not interested in tipping asks, a simple "no, thank you" generally suffices, even if it does result in a dirty look.
We all have different views and specifically dancers’ and custies’ views will often differ since we have different motivations.
At the clubs I visit w/ the tip parade; there is at least one dancer doing the tip-parade thoughout the whole club on a per song basis. This is b/c although the dancers do multiple song sets on stage; there are usually multiple dancers on stage and they are staggered so a dancer is getting off stage after each song and thus doing the tip-parade. At 3 minutes per song let’s say; that means you can have 20 dancers come by you per hour – and if you are there multiple hours; it can add up taking into account all the other costs (cover; parking; drinks; bathroom troll; waitress tips; etc.)
“… If I see a guy who isn't tipping when the other girls go around, he'll be the last guy I'll approach … If someone tips on the first couple rounds then stops, I assume he's out of cash and will generally avoid him, too …
Well KK said it herself about making assumptions. There was a pretty well-known financial book written a couple of years ago titled “The Millionare Next Doorâ€. The crux of the book is about how many people that are actually wealthy millionares one would never know b/c they live below their means and do not flaunt their wealth with over the top homes and cars.
I often spend b/w $400 and $500 per SC visit – yet I could be “assumed†to be cheap b/c I hate the tip-parade and will only tip during my 1st hour at the SC and never buy drinks for girls that ask me out of the blue or ask after 1 minute of talking w/ me (if we are having a nice extended convo – then I don’t mind buying them a drink).
We all choose how to spend our $$$. Dancers often say they choose the customers they want to dance for or spend time with – in that vain – customers should choose whom they want to tip and spend $$$ on.
Tipping shouldn’t be made to feel mandatory (by getting dirty looks from dancers or dancers telling other dancers the custie is cheap). In many of the tip-parade clubs – if the club is large enough; you may not even be looking at or be able to see the stage – yet you are expected to tip when the girl you didn’t see on stage comes by.
If you are sitting stage-side; then yes – one should tip b/c that is the reason of stage-side sitting.
There are places with strippers behind the bar that do a parade around the bar. IMO, saying no if you're sitting at the bar is rude. That's not to say there isn't call for it sometimes, but when you do it it should be done knowing that. If you don't want to tip find another seat.
Then there are places with what I consider true tip parades where dancers shuffle about and hit every customer in the club. As far as I'm concerned, saying no thanks there is perfectly acceptable. Some of these places the dancers will come around asking for tips even if you got out of your seat and tipped on stage. They'll also do it if you've got another dancer in your lap trying to sell a dance. IMO, its okay to say no to these - but you're gonna get nasty responses. As long as you don't say no to all of them, you'll unlikely get snubbed though.
Like GMD said, I don't think there are any places here where its mandated by management. Management gets a cut of dances/rooms/drinks, not stage tips. Here I get the impression they do it because for some of them that's the only money they'll make and $20-$30 an hour is more than they can make elsewhere. As a bonus they can be fucked up all day and no one hassles them about it. I can think of two clubs locally that used to do it constantly, then management frowned on it and they'd do it only when they thought they could get away with it. Now its pretty much cut out completely. I can recall a number of incidents with the tip parade, with strippers berating customers for not tipping and with customers expecting unrealistic ROI on those tips prompting heels in faces. I can't see how the value is there for management.
at pretty much the same rate, all day. (There are only so many rooms. They are always full, from open till close.) the house fee goes up b/c of stage $. And that's on top of the 20% they are already taking directly off each stage. Anyway, I know this is kinda irrelevant b/c my current club doesn't to the tip walk thing, but clubs are very invested in the $ from the stage.