Jesus People

One the local strippers was actually quite a Jesus Freak and would lecture and try and save other dancers. I asked her about it and she, apparently, did have some success with Christianize and getting other to follow more "Christian paths" than they were intending.

You can't be a stripper AND a Christian at the same time. It's a slap against the religion and accomplishes nothing.

Escorts who can't keep their job a secret should get slapped with Jesus spam

I saw something about this on MSN or CNN a few days ago:

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We covered this a week ago.

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@estafador, that's not entirely true, depends on how you define things.

A Christian admits they're a sinner. Repents. Believes in Christ and whatnot. Has faith.

That just means you can take strip club flyers and pass them out in churches

I think you can be a stripper and a Christian at the same time, Jesus wouldn't judge them. Neither would the Pope, he gets that life is rough and sometimes people have to make less than perfect choices. Just be good and kind.

As for these crusading ladies, I hope they are paying a cover or getting hit with a two drink minimum.

Staffy, if an escort keep her job that much of a secret, she won't have any customers. You have to put up an add with e-mail address or some other way for people to contact you. That's all the Jesus nuts need.

@shadow I just heard this story this weekend.

But to admit your sins is the path of righteousness and and a sort of start to quit sinning. Its a lie if you do it just to follow a rule and intentionally do the sin again. Like when you tell mother you won't steal from the cookie jar again even though you know you'll do it again.

Hang on a sec. I'm not entirely sure anyone who posts on a strip club message board should be making any kind of moral judgments on strippers. Maybe I'm reading too much into this. I'm not sure we can say with any certainty that a stripper cannot be a Christian. And if one can say that, then the same can be said about SC custies, I would think. If stripping is a sin according to the tenets of Christianity, then watching someone stripping and paying them for the privilege is certainly one as well, right?

I understand that Estafador didn't proclaim to be a Christian himself, but it seems a bit hypocritical to make a moral assertion when you are yourself engaging in a similar hobby/pastime. I don't know, I just think this smacks of pretension.

Remember the story of the Good Samaritan.

@estafador; "You can't be a stripper AND a Christian at the same time. It's a slap against the religion and accomplishes nothing." "But to admit your sins is the path of righteousness and and a sort of start to quit sinning. Its a lie if you do it just to follow a rule and intentionally do the sin again."

Est, I have to disagree. You seem to think that being a stripper is a sin in itself and that by dancing you are doing evil every day. Strippers, IMO, are much like anyone else. They sometimes do good and sometimes do evil. Most strippers are better people than some respected members of society such as politicians and lawyers. And I think we should not be too quick to judge strippers. A lot of them are single mothers who are shaking their tits in the club in order to support their children. That's a better motive than I have.

Christianity is not limited to people who are perfect.

"9 As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector’s booth. “Follow me,” he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him.

10 While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. 11 When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

12 On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13 But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’[a] For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”" --Matthew 9: 9-13

Jack: I love how the Bible lumps "tax collectors" and "sinners" together.

I'm on the same page as Sam and Jack.

In Hebrews 11, Joshua, and Matthew, Rahab the Prostitute is not only mentioned but honored. She hid Israelite spies and when Jericho was utterly wiped off the map, she, along with her daughter, were saved from the destruction.

Everyone seems to be more concerned about what they think other people are doing wrong than themselves. You point a finger at someone else and you have 3 pointing at yourself

"Christianity is not limited to people who are perfect."

Funniest thing I'll probably read today.

As I have previously mentioned on here before, nothing measures up to the Asian stripper that asked me during a lap dance "Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your savior?" I immediately left the club but later called the manager to complain. He said that it was not the first time that she had done that. I never saw her again.

@Shadow-That's because she was captured by the rapture.

Porn stars can be Christians apparently, why can't strippers?

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Seriously tho, I think it's possible to be both, but you'd probably be experiencing some inner conflict. Then again, who hasn't experienced that before?

"Anyone else heard stories like this?"

No.

They come into my club about once a month. Management lets them because they bring really good cookies. I find them pretty condescending... They seem to think all the girls have pimps and are being forcibly injected with heroin, or something.. But, they bring treats and cute little nail polishes, so some of the girls think they are cool. The ones that come to my club do not like seeing the girls dance. They act like we are being whipped to death. But, I think there are a lot of these groups around... Some might be less easily rattled and actually enjoy the show.

I have herd of this & have seen this before. While I was a floor host at a sc in Atl I herd a stripper preaching to another stripper. The other stripper said to her" shut the fuck & get out of my face or I'll see to it that you meet Jesus in 10 seconds" So needless to say I stepped in & broke it up. I found out the next day the Jesus stripper met him by overdosing on crack.

I never met any strippers talking about Jesus. If I did I'd probably hear something like, oh Jesus! and that would be it. I see videos where some nut case is talking about God. He just keeps repeating, oh my God, oh my God. Just because he almost got struck by lightning or saw something else. If someone really wanted to imitate Jesus they could try to act like him. I doubt Jesus would have gone to strip clubs and talked about himself or would be condensing to the other people there. Jesus would have met the strippers and been friendly. Strippers would be treated with as much respect as the CEO of some corporation.

Well we can all clearly say without a shred of doubt that the bible is full of double standards and hypocrisy.

Perhaps there are extreme circumstances for certain folk, but according to the ten commandments, she commits adultry with lapdances also a deadly sin, thus she should have at least done some serious repenting for forgiveness for selling her body like that. She didn't even treat it as any sort of holy temple as the bible instructs those to do.

The same goes with stripping. You are not treating your body as a holy temple allowing men (and some women) to voyeur and manhandle the body. Prostitution is a whole other issue but is not the point here. We commit lust whenever we go and watch the ladies dance....but majority of us are athiests anyway ne? It doesn't even matter

I'm not atheist nor are a number of dancers I meet. However we are all sexual beings and I believe some people are way too puritanical with all their high and mighty sexual attitudes. Is daily lust between a husband and wife ok when it's not ok between potential couples? Can you not enjoy the beauty of the human body? Is it a sin to enjoy the beauty you see outdoors but not the beauty you see in a very attractive girl or visa versa? In my opinion, all these ideas about sin where you look at something that looks pretty are pretty much messed up views that some men have.

It probably fits that some people set up rules and controls to force control over the masses and that became a major part of organized religion. I do not consider it adultery to desire a pretty single girl. Basic ideas in religion to treat others as you would like to be treated I believe are good ideas to live by. All the extra rules are something that some men interpreted their own opinion of. For instance, blue laws not allowing beer to be sold on Sunday. That is nonsense to me.

@Estafador: Your comment assumes that there is something un-Christian about stripping? What exactly would that be? Please cite doctrine, not the opinion of some alleged Christian person.

Jesus just left Chicago, and he's bound for New Orleans.

The Bible says you can't fornicate, but a solid majority of self-identified Christians do that nowadays.

In the official doctrine of the Catholic Church, having an orgasm from anything other than marital, dick-in-the-cooter sex is a sin (fornication and/or sodomy). I don't think they are cool with sexual arousal as entertainment, but it is much less serious. The modern Catholic Church won't kick you out regardless of any sin you commit. They will only kick you out for trying to convince others that it is OK to sin.

I can't site scripture for scripture if that's what your asking GMD. I am no Christian nut, I don't have a bible with me since I'm not Christian and I'm not about to go search tooth and nail for this crap on the internet. I just gave you ideas and thoughts from my learnings of my days when I actually was a Christian and the relations between popular edicts in biblical laws (10 commandments and the 7 deadly sins) and the behavior of strippers in strip clubs. Behaviors such as providing sexual stimulation to a patron and actual stripping(adultery), the simple concept we describe of strippers, working to drain every patron of their dollar (greed, envy). I believe that one is a wishwash situation since some are aking money to simply provide a good living for their children, or other valid deeds, while others do it simply for the surplus of money which is where greed and envy kick in.

But to humor you here is one I found thanks to a current Christian buddy of mine

Matthew 5:28 That whoeverest looketh upon a woman to lust after her hath commited adultery with her within his heart.

There is a doctrine for you. What makes the act of a dancer stripping to provoke lust not as bad as the man who actually commits it (or woman)?

People please, your homework for the day is to read The a Song Of Solomon and the previous books that Old SlickSpicealodocious mentioned about Rahab. Matt 1.5, James 2.25, Hebrews 11.31, Joshua also.

@Estafador: Well, that's a nice condemnation of the strip club patron, but not the stripper. What makes the provocation worse than the lust? Why is the simple act displaying her body provocative?

If a woman leaves a $10 bill on the table, is she just as despicable as the man who takes it? That type of "logic" is the same type of thing some rapists have used as a defense. "She asked for it."

Not a lot of point in quoting the Bible directly as each denomination has its own interpretation. Charles Manson said he was following the Bible.

The stripper who told me about the Jesus People said they are always asking the dancers if they need anything. I told her to ask for batteries, then whip out a huge vibrating dildo to put them in.