I started a thread a couple of days ago about going to strip clubs while on a limited budget and got some good advice. Thanks, guys. I wanted to follow up with one more little thread. I went to a regular bar last night, had a few drinks, and looked for regular women who might be wanting to hang out later and perhaps have a good time. This seemed like an excellent idea at the time. I'd perhaps be able to find a desperate woman who was also lonely. Plus, it'd be free!
Well, it only took a few hours for me to realize that this was a bad idea. Bar women are fickle, often out with their friends, and very hard to pick up. In the end, it's just too much work. When you're used to getting immediate intimate attention from strippers, the bar scene is just, well, disappointing and boring. Anyway, just thinking. Carry on.
I thought that at first myself, but in the end, I didn't pick up that many ladies over time. I did have a fuck buddy relationship with this one older lady I picked up at a bar (she went down as my only anal experience), but that just fizzled out over time, probably because she was married.
The ultimate problem with bars is that if they are in groups, it's usually girls night out and they aren't trying to get picked up by guys, for the most part. And if they are alone, they are probably crazy and/or old.
Think about it. If there is a group of 5 or 6 girls out, do you really think that one of them wants to be picked off and taken home by some random dude? They will be hen-pecked mercilessly by the rest of their girlfriends. I don't think that there are many groups that go out with the express purpose to have each of them separately pursue a possible hook-up. I would believe that two women might go out--maybe divorcees-and have a mutual pact that if one of them gets picked up that the other will check in with them by text or something. That sounds more plausible. But if you unwittingly bump into the 5-year reunion of 8 Tri-Delts in the bar, you have about a snowball's chance of walking away with any one of them. All you are is entertainment for a cackling bunch.
The comment about chicks in groups are spot on! If you want a few minutes convo and a little laughter, it doesn't hurt to try and hit on all of them at once. My gag is sliding up next to one and saying, "Hi, there. Come here often? What's your sign?" Then, before I get slapped, move on to the next in the group and repeating. I actually get giggles most of the time.
OTOH I don't spend a lot of time in civi bars, but I have noticed when there often large numbers of women either alone or with just one friend as Looneylarry mentioned. In those cases, a guy does not have to be 22 and built like an Olympic swimmer to get the interest of a woman on the prowl. Most women have standards for a guy's appearance/style/age that are totally incomprehensible to most men (especially me).
Personally, I have found they have lost the ability to be courted. I don't know if it is the shit on TV (just review how men are portrayed on shows), if expectations have gotten ridiculously high (they all deserve Fabio), etc.
Then when you do get married, there is a 50% chance ya will get divorced. (At least these days, the courts are slamming the guy as much.)
And women complain there are no men out there.
(Yes, I do recognize the irony of putting this on a strip club list, but it is what it is.)
The chances of finding a woman that we find attractive; will find us attractive; and be willing to give us what we want (need IMO) when we want it are usually very slim – even for a good or semi-good looking dude.
I recall a study done by a FSU professor in the 90s where he got an attractive young female coed to go up to young college guys at bars and proposition them for sex (free not P4P); most dudes said yes and the few that said no gave reasons like having a gf.
They then got a young good looking guy to go up to young women/coeds at bars and proposition them for sex; I don’t recall the dude getting a single yes and actually getting some pretty nasty NOs.
So far nobody has mentioned the ratio of men to women in bars. And most of those other guys have the same ideas. :) I succeeded once in ten years of trying and wound up marrying the bitch.
If you just go to try to play arcade games or whatever and meet girls who are alone or who hit on you, your odds are better. However I'm not sure who these crazy girls or drunk girls are who start talking to me. One crazy girl in a regular bar I believe came up to me from a group. The next thing I know she's right next to me insisting I must be married. I keep saying no I'm not. She thought I would have been in the club a lot more if I wasn't. After a minute or two I start thinking she's acting like a dancer that doesn't want to take no for an answer. I lied. I told her I was married. Then she says I knew it and left me alone. I probably could have picked up tips from one guy I knew. He had about one to three new girlfriends every week and he said that was slow because we lived in such a small town. I'm not really interested in quantity though.
In one pick up bar, I did run into a CF dancer who spotted me as soon as she walked in. She sat down beside me and started talking. Before she left she asked if I would be stopping by her "strip" club that night. I said yes and she said see you later and left. I think I had asked her where some regular bars were at being somewhat new to the area. It might not have been too much of a coincidence she showed up. I liked playing the arcade games after drinking beer. If I found a similar place with rock music, I might start visiting regular bars again. Regular bars do seem really boring if you aren't doing anything.
Maybe there really should be a higher age limit on the strip clubs. Better helps young guys to get into the habit of conversation and getting comfortable with picking up girls. Won't get lazy and expect girls coming to you (unless your me). Glad I sc sparsely these days.
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last commentGo after the fat ones. They will always pay the bar tab.
The ultimate problem with bars is that if they are in groups, it's usually girls night out and they aren't trying to get picked up by guys, for the most part. And if they are alone, they are probably crazy and/or old.
OTOH I don't spend a lot of time in civi bars, but I have noticed when there often large numbers of women either alone or with just one friend as Looneylarry mentioned. In those cases, a guy does not have to be 22 and built like an Olympic swimmer to get the interest of a woman on the prowl. Most women have standards for a guy's appearance/style/age that are totally incomprehensible to most men (especially me).
Then when you do get married, there is a 50% chance ya will get divorced. (At least these days, the courts are slamming the guy as much.)
And women complain there are no men out there.
(Yes, I do recognize the irony of putting this on a strip club list, but it is what it is.)
The chances of finding a woman that we find attractive; will find us attractive; and be willing to give us what we want (need IMO) when we want it are usually very slim – even for a good or semi-good looking dude.
I recall a study done by a FSU professor in the 90s where he got an attractive young female coed to go up to young college guys at bars and proposition them for sex (free not P4P); most dudes said yes and the few that said no gave reasons like having a gf.
They then got a young good looking guy to go up to young women/coeds at bars and proposition them for sex; I don’t recall the dude getting a single yes and actually getting some pretty nasty NOs.
you just cant go back to normal bars for pick ups...
i know i have gone far enough (and thank gawd for that !!)
I probably could have picked up tips from one guy I knew. He had about one to three new girlfriends every week and he said that was slow because we lived in such a small town. I'm not really interested in quantity though.