What percentage of the strippers that are 9's and 10's do extras and/or OTC?
Clackport
Washington
I think TUSCLers that have strip clubbed in different cities would be able to answer this question the best. I realize Detroit would probably have a bigger percentage, but in general I'm going to say 30% of the 9's and 10's.
I think most of them make good enough money for them without having to do extras and/or OTC. I mean some customers pay them just to be able to have a conversation with them. I think for the most part the girls who are 9's and 10's that do extras and/or OTC were already prostitutes before they started stripping. Extras to me are: FS, BJ, HJ, DATY, FIV.
What do you guys think?
I think most of them make good enough money for them without having to do extras and/or OTC. I mean some customers pay them just to be able to have a conversation with them. I think for the most part the girls who are 9's and 10's that do extras and/or OTC were already prostitutes before they started stripping. Extras to me are: FS, BJ, HJ, DATY, FIV.
What do you guys think?
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Could it be the system is actually a hindrance and dramatically lowers your chances versus a simple "just ask"? Maybe because it makes you too pussy, like the RickyBoy, to just ask until having been string along for 8 months first?
Dude, there just whores so all
you got to do is "just ask". Don't overthibk what is so simple and screw one of the easiest things in the world up!
Of course, I don't bother to ask if I don't think they will, so I might not be the best statistical universe.
Personally I would guess it's under 30% overall.
Ok, that was one of the trial explanations I came up with back when I was wondering why. I still think it is an important contributing reason but not the primary one.
GMD- So every 9 and 10 that you've asked to do OTC and/or extras ITC has agreed to it? Even though you don't ask the girls who you don't think will do it, that's still pretty impressive.
Dougster- I'll agree that there is pressure on them because a lot of money is being thrown their way. At a certain amount it might get almost impossible to say no to it.
Unless your in Detroit.
Price % who do extras
$100 10%
$200 20%
$300 30%
$400 40%
$500
Price % who do extras
$500 50%
$600 60%
$700 70%
$800 80%
$900 90%
$1000 100%
OK, I admit that there are probably some super-good strippers who would not do extras for even $1000. But I've never met them.
Wow! What a bleak outlook. You even got the jestie-girl topped on this particular point.
It's no problem, anyway, since once you're a regular it's just standard rates for the area.
Yep, big setup just to get you RickyBoy. Are you seriously that out if touch? Really?
Given my family history, I've have a moderately developed bullshit meter. It's not perfect, but having family members who vastly prefer the con, whether long, short or medium, to honest work, it's served me well over the years.
LOL Fraudster. I suspect more generally a setup designed to tee that particular screen name up to post yet more nonsense on this particular topic. I would assume that goading me into biting, followed no doubt by yet more hyperbolic nonsense from you, would just be one more entertainment component for you. ;)
Rick-No setup here, I just wanted to know what my fellow TUSCLers thought. I'm interested in what you think because I know you do a lot of traveling, but if you don't have anything to add kindly move your flame wars to another discussion thread, thanks.
There are so many variables involved that trying to guess at a particular % is ludicrous. What is a 9 or 10? Also, when we say, "do OTC/extras", do we mean routinely or on one or more select occasions? And are we talking about girls who would do them at what we might consider normal market rates, or simply those who would normally avoid them but might be enticed at a high enough number?
I define a 9 as a girl with a beautiful face, a stupidly sexy flawless body, and the ability to be engaging. Many clubs may have no more than one 9 on the roster and plenty that I have visited had none. In fact, I have had road trips to a few areas where I have visited multiple clubs and did not come across a 9 during the entire trip.
In my book, a 10 has everything that a 9 has, along with ample elegance, poise and seductive skills. A true 10 can almost take your breath away just by interacting with you. Outside of a few clubs in Manhattan and some higher end clubs scattered in different areas of the country, sightings of 10s are rare in my experience. They tend to know their value and work in places with high earning potential - many of them even rotating among a handful of big money clubs.
The few true 10s that I have had the chance to experience were not giving it up for a few hundred bucks in a back room or in after hours OTC. Money was already chasing them ITC. Now that is not to say that they would never have sex with a customer, but the guys who were rumored to be scoring with them could almost have been called clients rather than customers and were also rumored to be spending large sums on these girls in the form of cash and gifts. Having sex with a bonified 10 is more the province of a heavy hitter like farmer, assuming he was ever interested in that sort of pursuit, than that of us mere mortals.
I have had the pleasure of periods of OTC with a couple of true 9s in the past couple of years, but they were much harder to corral and required some extraordinary efforts to initially break the seal. In fact, if the economy had not been in such a prolonged slump and the club in question so dead, then I doubt that it would have happened at all as they were previously accustomed to money chasing them. And even when it was on the table, it was more hit and miss than with 7s and 8s as there were still nights where they were making so much ITC that a few more hundred for a hotel visit lost its enticement.
Net-net, I think that 10s do so sparingly and for large $$$ and that 9s are also less prone to "do OTC/extras", but can be found under the right circumstances. But like lopaw, the bulk of my OTC is found with 7s and 8s as it is easier to source and more reliable.
Then when people ask a perfectly reasonable question you fall into your paranoid world that it is all some "setup" to get.
Think it's time you sought treatment for you dipshittery, no?
Here is what my experience with dancers. First there are those who just going above a clubs limits, i.e. skirt the limits, ie. who will show pussy in a topless only club. This doesn't come close to your criteria of FS, BJ, HJ, DATY, FIV.
Next are those who are will work to get you off, allow lots of two way contact and if the club allows will go for a BJ and HJ, but nothing else. The rest are what you consider extras.
Each category is based off clubs I have visited that allowed such, except for FS, DATY which I have not found more than 3 over the years so I ignore those, since for the most part every one there allowed it and there were no nines or tens anyway.
% skirt % some % ranukum
Rating %in clubs limits extras extras
10 3% 40% < 5% < 1%
9 15% 50% 15% < 5%
8 35% 70% 30% < 5%
6-7 50% 70% 35% < 5%
The rest I can't rate because I won't try anyone under a 6. What this means is that out of 1000 dancers you might find 30 tens. Of those 30, 12 will skirt the limits a bit, one or two will give some extras and your odds of those two doing full extras is slim to none.