My ATF phoned me last night, crying. She had gone to a holiday gathering with her boyfriend's family, and the family had accused her of ruining the boyfriend's life. "They ganged up on me and called me a stripper," she said.
I made the required sympathetic comments, but I wonder what she expected to be called.
Maybe she would have preferred whore, slut or tramp.
It always amazes me that people who are immoral don't want to admit that they are immoral. They want everyone to accept what they do as normal.
Yes, strippers, dancers, or whatever you call them are immoral. And people who partake of dancers sinful ways are immoral as well. (This means you too Juice).
I have a date with my fav later this week.
The real thing that amazes me how many people refuse to believe these are real human beings.
Once I was out at a bar shooting pool and I noticed a dancer that Ive seen at the club. I don't think she saw me. But two drunk assholes came up and said aren't you that stripper...LOL! She said no,no,I don't know what your talking about."ehhh! that's nasty" It was funny. But I agree with the above post too. They are girls that have feelings. I would never call anyone out in public like that.
Anyone who talks shit (without provocation) to an invited guest at a get-together, is a seriously major scumbag. The BF should cut off contact with his family members who did this, and maybe forgive them if they beg for it.
Strippers, and SC goers to a large extent, will often not be seen/judged with a kind or neutral eye.
But, even if one is not to be judgmental, it is a bit difficult to see a guy’s family say “yeah – that is the kind of girl I want for my son – a girl who gets naked and lets strange men (and lopaw) grope them for $$$â€.
Some great comments above.
I always try to use the term, "dancers" rather than "strippers," especially when in the company of dancers. Sometimes for added emphasis I'll use "strippers." I had a long time fave who enlightened me as to how difficult it was working a stripper when among family and friends. At least she did a great job of raising her two kids, and owned two homes during the time I knew her, which was only for four years out of her now 16-year career as a dancer.
Why the hell would she be upset and why the hell would she have called you about it? Crying about it nonetheless
@Motorhead High 5 for that subtle "In The Heat of the Night" reference. :)
@Papi maybe if I had a son, and I thought he was with a girl who would ruin his life, I would feel the need to confront her and ask her to back off my son. But I would not ambush her at a get-together, and ruin the occasion for everybody there. I would let everyone know beforehand that I refused to socialize with the girl, and I wouldn't be there is she was invited.
That said, if I thought there was something immoral about stripping, I would not go to strip clubs, because I don't want to be a hypocrite. I'd have to agree that strippers are more likely to be immoral, just like poor people are more likely to be criminals. But not all strippers are immoral, just like not all poor people are criminals.
If I could only get sexual gratification from women who found me attractive, I'd have a very serious case of the blue balls. And I'm not going to get into a committed relationship with the main goal of getting into the chick's pants. Since strippers and escorts fill an important need for me, I owe them a certain amount of respect and consideration. A flea is never better than the dog whose back its riding on.
Whether or not dancers are IMMORAL or not is a matter of opinion. That this particular family didn't like her job is not surprising. Sounds like the dancer and her so called BF should have had a talk prior to family introductions.
Considering that jackslash is from Detroit and this is his ATF I am presuming that she gives extras to just about every guy she dances with. And I would venture to guess that somewhere within the BF's extended family there is somebody who knows what goes on in Motor City clubs.
So, even if they DID decide to out of courtesy not say anything out loud is there really any chance of her having a 'normal' relationship with her boyfriend's family once they knew her occupation? I completely doubt it.
You take your chances...
Who the Hell are they to pass judgement on her "morals". If he had any balls he should have taken her out of there.some strippers I've known are very " moral" people. Some pillars of the community, church goimg folk are as immoral as they come. He should have stuck up for his date and told his family not to judge; lest they be judged. He probably would have made out like a bandit from the girl friend, too.
She's probably more pissed at her sorry ass boyfriend (we all know that generally dancers/strippers don't make very good life choices.) She just won't admit that bf didn't say anything to his family when someone said stripper.
@inno123 yes most people look down on women who have sex for money, or at least those who do it with many men. But is there any logical reason for doing so? The typical escort or extras stripper exposes herself to communicable diseases, herpes being the worst of them. But that means the customers of these women are also exposing themselves to these diseases.
In my experience, most people who work only for commission on sales (as strippers and escorts do) are more dishonest, manipulative, lacking in empathy, and likely to enjoy looking down on people than average. But the degree to which they are like this varies, and some are not like this at all. So selling sex or selling anything is not a reason in itself to look down on someone.
Was that your last namne or first?
@pabloantonio: "It always amazes me that people who are immoral don't want to admit that they are immoral."
And your reason for naming her "immoral" without knowing anything about her other than her profession, along with your assumptions about her relationship with jackslash, is....?
"yes most people look down on women who have sex for money, or at least those who do it with many men. But is there any logical reason for doing so? The typical escort or extras stripper exposes herself to communicable diseases, herpes being the worst of them. "
Well, you mentioned the disease aspect, but family also tends to focus when evaluating other members boyfriends and girlfriends and whether they 'could have done better' as to whether they can provide a stable supportive relationship with their brother/son/etc. but also provide a good home life for any children. And it isn't even necessarily a moral condemnation to say that a stripper is not a good start on that. She already has you as an ATF that she can come crying to...how many others does she have.
Frankly I think is stung as much as it did because she herself is ambivalent about her sex work.
Not everybody has a neat and pretty job. Most of us get the courtesy of being able at a family gathering to leave the ugly parts of our careers away and just enjoy being away from it. She was likely hoping to be able to do the same.
Mr. Tibbs?