ATF becoming more and more affectionate

Always, always assume it means nothing more than they're trying to get more money from you.

By 'test the waters', what do you mean? Do a VIP? What are you expecting?

If you want to test the waters on how she feels about you you got.to reduce the money flow or cut it off if she keeps kissing and hugging you she is truely into you....if not increase the pay high enough to Fuck her over and over again but she.only loves that money flow....good luck playa

Regular and steady customers are always the base for dancers. Other guys might spend more--one time---but you can be counted on and that means she has to keep you interested, by any means necessary. Her affectionate moves are all part of her act. Enjoy the fantasy, because it's not real.

Dude Fuck the.haters that.can't beleive a real.relationship can flower in the clubs......mine did and so.can yours....love grow and learn my man

Enjoy her while she lasts.

Amen drac baby......I agree 500%

I usually assume nothing, but the stuff that keeps playing in my head is too good. the only thing I ever assume is that a stripper has a SO. And id bet anything im right on that

I think SuperDude has pegged this one pretty closely. She knows that by treating you like that you'll come back again and again. Don't get me wrong, she probably really does like you, but that affection is likely based more on the regularity you bring to her revenue stream than because you're such a nice guy. The nice guy thing might be *part* of it, but it sure ain't the *whole* thing.

i continue to be shocked by all the cynicism on this site! i love all my custies, each and every one. honestly, spending time in their spellbinding presence is payment enough, the cash and multiple o's are just icing on the cake.

Amen Carolynne.

Pouring it on a bit thick tonight ladies....

i don't pour, i only squirt

No doubt, carolynne, you love the cash flow generated by your custies, and you may even see them in a favorable light, and a couple you may even have some warm and fuzzy feelings for. But nobody is shitting anybody--you create the fantasy, we play along, the cash changes hands, and the beat goes on. Pretty simple. I am not bitter about it. Should the guy who jumps into the tiger cage at the zoo be pissed that the tiger tears off one of his arms? No, its just their nature. The stripper with a heart of gold is just a Hollywood invention.

ll, i am so saddened by ur pessimistic outlook! my first regular custie broke my heart, and even now my heart pounds whenever the club front door opens... will it be him? after all these years? all kidding aside, there r some custies i genuinely enjoy talking to, they are smart and funny and cute. some r hot, and yes, fellas, i do feel a twinge under the ol' g string when i see them come in the door.

Don't expect too much. It is her job to attract customers, and she may actually like you. But don't get caught falling in love. If she wants to date you she'll let you know sooner rather than later.
I never thought I'd date a dancer but I did. It was one of those perfect storm / 1-in-a-million scenarios. She was really cute, smart (a science degree from a pretty competitive school), funny, etc. She was in a tough spot in her life and I happened to have awesome timing that day.
I'm 99% certain that will never happen to me again.

You have to be realistic. Let's say you're a 50 something year old guy and she is in her 20's. No matter how nice she is to you, do you think she could be attracted to you? I've seen stranger things happen, but it's not common.

I'm cumming up on 71. If Hefner can do it. so can I. LOL.

I actually feel bad for ole' Hugh

That's the spirit, Shadow!

No you don't, jester.

Unlikely but not impossible.

Let me give you a different perspective. If she does like you for real, would you really want to be her boyfriend?

I've yet to get to know a stripper that didn't have a world of drama. Start dating one and her drama soon becomes your drama.

Of course you want to nail her but you can do that without all the BS that would come from a real relationship.

In the long run, keeping the foundation of the relationship built on dollars will probably end up saving you a ton of cash.

So carolyne, if a super hot stud came in, whether it be solo dolo or in a group, and you were generally attracted to him and he started flitying with you, would you let him move in for a genuine date (or one night stand which is always free) or would you feed him classic ss. I'm going for the latter

I'M 40 years older than my favorite stripper. I've met her OTC on 100's of occasions, hotels, plays, dinner, sleep overs at her apartment but I always paid for the privilege.she has had 2 other "customers"and several boyfriends. She tells me that she's in the fantasy business and while I'm a "hell of a nice guy"; if I was 30 years younger, then maybe....
Sometimes if I'm having trouble getting it up or trouble finishing it off, she'll tell me stories of sex in the in the club or of her fantasies. Trust me, I'm not a part of her dreams - however there are feelings both ways- I love my time with her - she makes me feel young. She on the other hand respects me, claims I've saved her life more than once(detox, rehab, etc.) and she truly loves my money.

I'm sure you have the same hero worship for Hef that you do for Dugly, but I wouldn't expect you to be able to look past the obvious.

Strippers are much less likely to be obnoxious about it if you ask them out than women in general. So go for it. Some strippers try to play the victim, that it's so offensive that the PLs would even imagine they're good enough. But few will do it to your face.

You seem to have changed your attitude kingcripple.

She may be having problems with her man hoe... she is wanting affection from you

Every PL has to learn why there is such cynicism on this board.

With all this talk of age floating around, does that mean my smexy 21 year old self actually has a chance with dating a stripper?

That's up to the dancer Estafador.

Estafador - at 21 you're actually younger than a lot of dancers, but yeah it's definitely easier for a younger guy to get a date with a dancer typically.

Anyway, dancers will naturally be more affectionate to a regular customer, or at least they should be. It helps retain the business, and naturally after knowing somebody for a longer period of time they will be closer to that person. Doesn't mean they will go on a date with you, or that they're actually physically attracted to you. Not to say that it's impossible either, but a dancer being affectionate with you alone in itself is no indication that they want to date you.

King Fuck the.rest just listen to.the best kingjuice

@estie: ur funny. all u guys who insist "all strippers this" and "all strippers that" r pretty much wrong. there r always exceptions. in my case, i do date guys i meet in the club as well as others i meet socially. if i think their only motivation for asking me on that kind of date is to get free sex then f that, but if i think they actually want that kind of date experience i'll consider it. what's the difference between meeting a guy for paid otc and a "real" date where no money changes hands? if a guy pays me for otc then he is a customer and i am a service provider. i don't expect him to be really thinking about my needs or meeting me half way on anything. if he wants to go out on a real date i expect him to at least meet me half way... after all, a women deserves something extra, no? i expect give and take, sharing, real consideration, etc. i'm not his bitch and he's not mine (at least not yet). that doesn't mean i'm hoping to marry him or even see him long term, and vice versa... it's just a different kind of experience, and one i'm open to. besides, sometimes i get tired of old geezers who need viagra to get it up, or a nap between rounds, and i want someone young... i'm also one of those women for whom size does matter, so if a guy can really drive home his point he might get some extra consideration!

We old geezers may need Viagra and naps, but we PAY better. LOL

If you need size, try a Porn Star. LOL

nothing against old geezers, believe me. i have a lot of fun with u guys. re trying a porn star, it was fantastic!

@jester, care to explain? I have a really tough time seeing past the obvious.

I think it may have been here where I heard/read this but not sure:

“Dancers are like jukeboxes – they require money to play”

You *definitely* need to proceed w/ caution IMO.

As others have stated; you are much safer assuming she is *not* into you or at least into you for the “right” reasons.

Sure, she may like “hanging” with you in the club and may feel “comfortable” with you – but this is worlds away from her being genuinely interested in you romantically IMO.

Do you, or are you able to, hook up w/ someone like this in a non-SC setting? If not, chances are her “affection” for you is just the typical SC fantasy shit.

You should make sure you are thinking with your (large) head and are being logical rather than letting yourself be led by your “feelings” – IMO.

If she really was in to you she would give or ask for a number, suggest otc maybe even a real date. If she hasn't and you are a longstanding customer like you implied, its all business man. She is just one of the smarter ones that recognize the value in a keeping you happy as part of a long term business relationship.

Thats not to say you couldn't arrange otc with her, but when you say test the waters i take that to mean real dating. Not a chance in hell bro, the best you could hope for is a sugar daddy situation...which ain't bad if you can afford it. If she asks for a million bucks to open a shoe store though, RUN!

I will end with a glimmer of hope. If you are quite well off, even rich, and she is a liiiittle bit older than your avg stripper, she may be looking to get out of the biz and "marry well". Maybe she's targeted you ;)