The clubs that file patrons' personal information (in the DMV)

Puzzle's: last I checked a lady in the back wanted me to sign and print my full name on a paper. She thoroughly inspected the paper to make sure that the name I printed was consistent with the name on my Driver's License. (this was about a year ago, and i never been back since)

Bazz and Crue/ Chula Chica XB4: owned by the same people (?) But some old reviews suggest the latter doesn't file info for membership.

If anyone has more current info on these clubs let me know. thanks

DMV?

Def sucks, but sometimes necessary. Back when I was a Buckeye (many moons ago) there was a nude club that was a private club. I think that they had to have a members only policy.

Avoid if I can, but I doubt that it can be as damaging as being on the client list at an escort service. Unless you go all Dick Cheny on their ass when the list comes out of course

Diamond Dolls in Miamisburg (High end BYOB membership club)is still a private club and they have you DL on file as well as the other membership nude dayton club. Juicey's fav "Godiva's"? scans DL's even though it is not high end and not a member club. I do not like it as I prefer anonimity.

I don't patronize any establishment with this BS policy. I'd leave if I was asked to give this info.

You have to be fucking insane to even consider going to a club like this. There are other clubs down the street, there is no club on the planet that is so good you need to do stupid shit like this to go there.

I agree we should make a list or something to let everyone know that you shouldn't even consider those clubs.

I believe we had another thread about this subject.

Just Fucking refuse to cooperate and go elsewhere.

It is not Rocket Science, it is pretty simple.

I think that clubs that do this are already in hot water with the local LE and are now just trying to cover their ass's for any future problems. So two reason to avoid those clubs.

Gatorfan: DMV is the location (DC, Maryland, Virginia).

Alucard: You are wrong, there is no up-to-date list on this site about these clubs. Link what you have.

The idea I had was to further streamline the process of getting this info on a club on the site, and to the right views. In the "DMV" this is starting to become more common. Like many here mentioned, I want to avoid these places too, which is why I wanted a place to concentrate on this kind of info. But each club has different ways of handling this (some extreme, others just ask for name and signature) and the can change on a moments notice.

I honestly would like to see kind of info added to the option settings for each club, even though I doubt if that is seriously updated by most users.

Alcohol laws in Texas have been historically restrictive and confusing. In Dallas County, alcohol sales varied precinct-by-precinct. To have a beer in a restaurant in a 'dry' precinct, the restaurant would have to be considered a 'private club', and anyone drinking would have to be a member.

Enter the "UniCard", where you pay a restaurant $1 for a membership card, and you are instantly a member of all subscribing restaurants/clubs in the area. Silver City Caberet near downtown Dallas apparently did not join that system, so you would have to show your license to be scanned. The same was true at Illusions, which became The Penthouse Club, which became XTC.

For any given precinct to change their status from dry to wet, they would have to have a vote. Starting from where the precinct lines were the last time the precinct was voted 'dry', they would have to approve the change. Then, they'd have to vote again within the current precinct lines. Only then could they get rid of the UniCard requirement for bars/restaurants in that precinct.

When the Cowboys played at Texas Stadium, the city of Irving was dry. Beer sales were not allowed in the stadium. Eventually, the team won approval for a 'corral', a roped-off area in the parking lot where they could sell beer. At their new stadium, $14 gets you a margarita in a plastic cup.

Years ago, I lived in an apartment complex in Grand Prairie, staddling the line between Dallas and Tarrant counties. The Stop-n-Go at the western end, in Tarrant County, could sell beer. The one at the other end couldn't.

It's ridiculous laws like this, passed over a hundred years ago, that require a club to scan your ID. Because only members can drink, you see.

Fenster: That is interesting. In Maryland, clubs aren't allowed to offer drinks with fully nude women. All of them are Byob.

I am beginning to think that shadowcat's point has something to do with the clubs in my area. Sucks to think that I'm not ever going to enter some of the clubs mentioned earlier.

I avoid clubs like this also. There is one club that I kind of like that started scanning ID a couple years ago. Because I'm known there sometimes they'll let me in without scanning, but if they insist on it, I just say nah and go to the competitor's club across the street.

My only experience with this is in the aforementioned “Silver City” in Dallas. It felt really odd to have my DL scanned and I was uncomfortable with it.

I’ve heard it mention that Maryland (Prince George’s County) has this issue w/ a number of clubs – though I do not have any firsthand experience in the PGC.

I'd just turn around and walk out. Not going to give up the info, no matter how well reviewed the club.

At the Harem in Lodi NJ, they scan your DL if you go for a. VIP and use a credit card. At. Satin Dolls down the road, they scan your DL if you use a credit card at the bar to run a tab. I don't see the big deal. I am already on their email list. I have nothing to hide. I was once photographed in the VIP video...I asked the owner for a copy so I can make Christmas Cards!!!! Since then the video surveillance camers are turned off for me.

I really don't have that much of an issue with this. I don't particularly like it, but I understand why they do it.

Think of all the places you show ID and/or give up information. CC applications, grocery store discount cards, several casino's have my info.

Chumchum READ EXACTLY what I SAID!

I said I believe that there was another THREAD about the subject. I DID NOT say that there was a LIST.

Go elsewhere if you don't like the practice, or MOVE to another city.

I simply would not go to a club like this.

Cheetah's in NYC scanned my DL and CC for VIP and they also claim they take a thumb print if you go to VIP. I didn't know they made copies until AFTER i disputed CC charges. To support their charges they sent me the copies they took of my license, CC and a copy of the "VIP rules sheet" which had my forged signature and fake thumb print. The VIP rules sheet lists the rules (no sexual contact haha) and basically looks like a receipt on the bottom. They wrote in date, dollar amount ($312 to be exact), forged my signature and used someone else's thumb print (I had it compared to mine). There was no official recording of time from register or CC imprint on VIP rules sheet, everything was hand written so it was probably done AFTER I disputed charges. These guys are complete scum bags and desperate and will do anything to get your money.

TD's North in Albuquerque and
Spearmint Rhino in Boise

bjag625, so WHY were you in this club & WHY did you submit to the procedure???

The closest club to me (15 miles) does this, and the second closest (45 miles) does too. I really don't want to spend the whole night driving. Moving is not an option. It's submit or don't go. :-(

"Think of all the places you show ID and/or give up information. CC applications, grocery store discount cards, several casino's have my info. "

Sounds innocent enough. A man with a grocery store discount card slipped in the snow of a grocery store and decided he was going to sue. The grocery store looked over his purchases and found spirits were bought over time (other than simply beer.) Needless to say, they found this worthy enough to bring up in court, though there was no evidence he was drunk at the time. They certainly were free to ask the question and bring up his habit.

If this can happen in a place that you buy your coffee - imagine if your SC information fell into the hands of a divorce private investigator, police looking to make prostitution busts, crazy politician, economic espionage, local newspaper... the list is endless.

Founder should certainly add a field to the database about the club for "Patron ID Required (Y/N)."

I have not had this problem in Houston. It is a scary thing and could be used by LE or a situation where you knocked up a dancer in VIP but thats far fetched the club would co-operate with some whore trying to run you down.

Alucard: I am going to assume you are an adult, so i expect you to speak like one. I'm not going to get in to it with you. It seems like everyone else knows how to read but you. Whenever you decide to lighten up, please read the title of this thread and the second paragraph in the initial post. Theses are clear statements of the main topic. Then, if you still feel up to it, post the link concerning something related to this topic.

Alucard: drunk and stupid and didn't know this happened until after the fact

i have witnessed a scanning of my id once at Private Eyes. I thought it was just to verify that my card wasn't a fake (kind of annoys me since its; a) do I look like I'm under 21 (could have sworn everyone said I look like I'm 30) and b)because their russian bouncers.

Estafador, it's nothing personally. If you're a) not a regular or b) don't look like you're 35-40+, there's a good chance they're going to check your ID.

One way to check an ID is to just look at it and see if it looks real, but it's much easier to explain to the cops that you scanned the ID and it passed. The machine takes the burden of the decision away from the bouncer, making their life easier. (and yes, the machine could say that some fake IDs are real if they're scannable, but that's a risk some clubs accept)

Now as far as scanning the actual *photo* of the ID, I could understand doing that if you're spending a large amount of money on a CC, but not if you're paying in cash.