Escorts, LE/DT/PO, Clubbing and TUSCL.

Re: escorts vs strippers, for me it's the screening the SC setting allows that makes the experience preferable. In some brothels though it is getting close - you can do lineups and take time to mingle with the girls. Escorted you can use DBs to screen but have to rely on others impressions as opposed to first hand.

I also think many here like the whole unknown versus given factor. Adds to the tensions. Minds of those with more swollen egos think strippers who do Otc/itc are choosing who to say yes to specially, so, in their minds, the stripper is at least somewhat attracted ti them. Pretty fucked up thinking but read for a bit and you will see many really do think that way.

A lot of times escorts post fake pics or outdated pics. Most times the escort looks worse in person than in the pics. Plus, escorts are kind of random, you've never met them before. With strippers, obviously you get to see how they look in person in the club before you decide if you want to fuck them. You also get the opportunity to build a relationship with them beforehand, so they'll be more comfortable with you during sex than some random escort.

Mustang ranch seems to be moving to a hybrid approach, the girls are going to dance plus the option for sex will be guarenteed. Sounds like a winner to me. (Only thing then is prices there are high and you have to travel to NV for it.)

LE use if this board is a pretty classic debate. MisterGay and RickDugan had some good flame wars over that one. I think they definitely stay on top of what is posted here and does help when they decide to investigate or even if they decide to investigate.

Free Estafador? You're in dream land!

Use codes. Keep names of dancers and clubs vague or hidden.

Nothing but lies are written here.

Everyone who posts discussions or articles here is a professional writer who is actually paid a lot of money to write articles for prestigious magazines like Cosmopolitan, Playboy, Penthouse, Ladies Home Journal, Field & Stream, and American Police Beat .

And yes I too get lots of free pussy in the clubs once the dancers discover how talented of a writer I am.

Estafador, smart strip club hounds keep their mouths shut about the specifics of what happens in clubs. There is no reason to make it easier for LE to identify clubs where dicier things are happening, particularly during an election year.

In terms of strippers vs. escorts, your views are no doubt skewed by the fact that you club in Manhattan. Strippers in Manhattan clubs indeed are normally far more expensive for p4p than are escorts. But the dynamics are far different in certain other parts of the country, where strippers will give it up for around the same $$$ as advertised escorts. NY is my home base but I also travel a great deal, so I have the fortune of seeing both sides of this coin.

I Wish I got paid for my comments here! LMFAO

Sorry, but my pointers aren't gonna help you.

Its funny lopaw only posted to deny an answer. Great stuff. @rickdugan ya know....that makes a helluva lot of sense. I did use to travel a lot, but when I was younger, so I didn't have money (nor the interest...OBVIOUSLY) to go looking around for the ladies.

@Alucard yeah mon, free....its all apart of fanatasy....don't you have one of those?

Frankly if LE has to go to a web site to learn what is going on in their own neighborhood they are pretty lame. It will also be almost impossible to get a conviction based on what was said in an internet posting.

Estafador, I really wouldn't worry about LE getting info from this site. As was mentioned in another thread, there are methods we use to hide info from LE.

For example, when discussing paying strippers for "extras", we refer to "Benjamins and Franklins". It's a well known fact that law enforcement officers don't know what that is, and can't figure it out.

Also, we use very clever methods for disguising names. For example, we'll write "I fucked G*na up the butthole and paid her a Benjamin". Again, nobody in LE will have the slightest clue who it's referring to.

And the cleverest method we use to describe potentially illegal activity is to say "...if you catch my drift" or "...if you know what I mean (wink wink)". Clearly, only us strip club perverts can decode that.

So I think we're safe.

lol sorry, but when I was starting to type up some thoughts as to strategies that have worked for me over the years, it dawned on me (yet again) that they simply won't work for you guys due to the unique nature of my situation. My bad.

lopaw, I'm gonna reach through this computer and smack you if I don't get some accurate data you meaniehead. And Jerikson....really bro....that....is...GENIUS. NO WONDER you guys get away with so much good shit.

Acronyms? Yeah, they are annoying, especially to newbies who don't know what they mean. You will get used to them if you visit this site regularly.

Law enforcement? That depends on local politics. Some areas of the country have strict regulations and police raids. Here in Detroit, cops and politicians don't care. I don't know why, because Detroit cops and politicians would never take money or free pussy to overlook illegal activity.

Strippers vs escorts? I like strippers. I can meet them face to face (so to speak), get to know them in the club, and test drive them before purchasing. With escorts, you depend on descriptions and photos that are usually inaccurate. You request a beauty and a beast shows up at your door.

I avoid undercover brother strippers

1. Estafador, as you pointed out: "As Or is it the thrill of getting the stripper to go out of her regular business practice and getting her (or him for you gays or females) down and dirty?" For me I'd say that's a big part of it. It's an ego thing. Can I get a dancer outside of her intended realm? I love the challenge of that. I've been very successful at it over the past several years.

2. Jacklash said it best. Others have mentioned the same. Escorts are cheaper, but getting to know dancers first helps a lot. The escort route doesn't allow time for that and is pretty much a "wham, bam thank you ma'am" experience, then the next customer comes along.

With escorts you never know if you're going to a police sting operation. With strippers you're pretty safe.

@lopaw: "that they simply won't work for you guys due to the unique nature of my situation."

Is there some reason you don't just come right out and say "won't work for you guys because you don't have a pussy"? :)

@Estafador: See this discussion for more: tuscl.net

LE usually knows what goes on in their neck of the woods and will often just look the other way unless things in a SC really get out of hand. LE depts. have limited budgets/man-power and will usually not place banging a stripper near the top of things they need to put a stop to or control.

I don't know, papi, can be go politics to rescue whores from explotation. They really cleaned house in Seattle a few years ago. They'll probably leave strip clubs alone now while they take on the escort scene, and I hear they are even targetting AMPs now and then.

^^^ Yep – that surely is a valid point. I heard about what happened in Seattle w.r.t. SCs from someone who lives there. Memphis is another example of when a city decides to clamp down on the SCs and nearly put them out of business.

This is always a risk. When the city/politicians want to clamp down on anything, then LE is forced to act, o.w. I think they (LE) will tend to look the other way unless politicians get involved as you mentioned.

@ gmd- yeah, I was trying to be subtle. Guess you saw right thru that, eh? ;-)

Personally, my totally biased and unsupported view about LE and strip clubs is this:

In the last few decades, it seems to me that, throughout the country, there has been strong pressure on strip clubs to limit naughty stuff. Lots of the cities that were famous for high mileage clubs got slapped with 6 ft. laws and all kinds of nonsense. Tampa, NY, Phoenix, etc.

And I think the main reason is this, though I can't prove any of it:

In the decades since the women's movement started in the 70's, women have become more and more a part of business and government, compared to, say, the 1950's when many/most were housewives. Now you've got many city councils with a number of women members, as well as other government positions with greater representation by women.

And as we all know, women hate other women who are prettier, and might take away their man. You will NEVER hear a woman compliment a prettier woman, unless it's some backhanded, catty swipe.

So as women gained power in the 80's and 90's, they saw strip clubs as a threat to themselves personally. Of course that is totally contradictory to the whole concept of a women's movement, where women should be supporting their sisters in the freedom to achieve whatever goals they have, even if that means stripping. But hypocrisy is not important, it's about power.

So throughout the 80's and 90's the high mileage strip clubs, one by one, saw their city councils enact tough limits on clubs. I'm sure we can all give stories of clubs that were, back in the 70's, hotbeds of all kinds of fun, nasty stuff. Hell, just look at some of the San Francisco and LA clubs back then. There were pretty much no limits.

But now, in the 2000's, things seem to be cooling off, for whatever reason. And high mileage is back. Nothing like it was in the 70's but it's certainly coming back.

that sounds like a story out of a fiction book

"...that sounds like a story out of a fiction book..."

Based on your knowledge of what? Do you have any date to refute any of my contentions? Or are you just speculating based upon absolutely no information whatsoever?