How To Bring Up Extras

2ndScoop
What's the best way to bring up extras? After couple dances, what are typical lines to initiate?

Thx!

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gatorfan
12 years ago
a hard dick does the trick
pabloantonio
12 years ago
Well Scoop, I never bring up extras on the first date. I suggest that you invest some time and money with the dancer that you really like.

Build a relationship. If she is really into you, it will happen naturally by the third or fourth date.

Didn't you learn any of this in High School?

Or if you want it fast, offer her $2000 and take her to your hotel.

You must believe all the bullshit you read here that all dancers are whores and all you have to do is ask and they will give you sex for practically nothing.

Good luck with your endeavor.
Dougster
12 years ago
Just ask. Remember they are just whores. It's no big deal for them to be asked.
mmdv26
12 years ago
The relationship you build with a stripper is akin to one you would build with a gas pump at the convenience store, so get in there and get the job done without wasting a lot of cash. If she regularly does extras, she will initiate the actionable extra, or explain her pricing structure for same.

If you are going to have to convert her, beware that it can take awhile and cost a bundle. If after three hot dance sessions she is not suggesting some unpublished prices, you might want to just come out and ask her if she ever sucks guys off ITC. If you get thrown out of the club for asking, go find another club.
dallas702
12 years ago
Personally, I believe the entertainers in a club will only endeavor to provide you extra services if you are extremely well dressed and tip extravagantly. First, be sure to make an impression. The "James Bond" tuxedo look usually works well, but other styles may work better for you. Consider a real Stetson hat an Tony Llama boots with flame design jeans and a plaid shirt with snaps instead of buttons, or a doubleknit leisure suit in powder blue.

Next, make an entrance! When you arrive, be sure to tip whoever is at the door with a pair of $20s, then stand - hands on hips - in the entrance for at least 2 minutes.

Finally, when sitting in the club with a possible extras girl at your table, pull out a roll of $20s and $50s and count it often. Make sure they know you have thousands. Then the extra entertainment will be outstanding.
Dougster
12 years ago
If you don't believe "just ask" works, however, then Rick_TheIdiot_Dugan has an intricate system that took him ten years to develop. At the end of the day you still have to pay so some (me) doubt it's good for anything at all. But it does inflate his ego to think he solved such a challenging problem. So if you want to join his camp, you pretend asking is a major art/science. (in reality, though, it is not.)
boogieknight369
12 years ago
before I agree to go in the back, I just ask "what are your limits". same question works after a few dances and still in the vip, but at that point her prices will probably be higher and if she's not into it your out the price of a few dances.
rickdugan
12 years ago
@fraudster: ssshhh. The grownups are talking now. Be a good boy and go get us a real review. ;)

@2nd: It is impossible to answer blindly as it is completely situational. The availability of extras can vary dramatically from one area to the next. For example, what you can easily get away with in Miami may get you tossed from a club in places like Kansas or even downtown Chicago. It is also specific to the club. Are there cameras in the back? What type of rep. does the club have?

The reviews on here are a great source of initial research on the clubs and areas that you are targeting.

Also, sometimes you just never really know how she will perform until you get her back. In looser areas and clubs, it is easy to have an upfront discussion about expectations. In tighter areas and clubs, however, even "friendly" girls will get cautious if you start asking about extras before you even go back for a dance as they are afraid of LE and/or being fired.

Do your research before you go in order to get a handle on the area and the clubs that you are targeting. Also, over time, you will no doubt develop better instincts and learn to avoid time wasters.
SemiCrazy
12 years ago
Rick is spot on here. It all depends on the context of the club you are in.
Dougster
12 years ago
Sorry, Rick, but from the response here the consensus here is clearly "just ask". Many are even openly mocking the idea that you need a system. (Except, in your mind, of course, you are just going to claim that all those saying "just ask" are me posting under different aliases, right? You lose, Rick, and by refusing to post your old ideas here because of the smackdown you know us waiting for you, you are admitting this. I found the James Bond analogy especially in the mark as to you and your real attitude. Just don't have the guts to say it anymore, huh?)
shadowcat
12 years ago
I wear suggestive T-shirts. "Blow Job. The only job I'll ever love", "I'm just a blow job waiting to happen", "My father only wanted a blow job".

If these don't work, then I follow Rickdugans advice.
Alucard
12 years ago
Just ask and set a price before going to the room. And clothing doesn't matter.
jackslash
12 years ago
It would help to know what city you're interested in. Check out the reviews of clubs in that city to see if extras are available. If the club is extra friendly, you just need to ask like other posters said. (Ask politely. "What are you limits" is a good question.) Not all dancers will do extras or they may not do extras for men they don't know.

If you don't have an extra friendly club, then you need to cultivate a relationship with a dancer. You may have to spend money on her a number of times. Then you can ask for extras ITC or OTC.
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SuperDude
12 years ago
In Detroit the offer is often made before the question can be asked.
rickdugan
12 years ago
@Fraudster: LOL. If by "old ideas" you are talking about my approach to OTC, nothing has changed and all of my positions remain the same. Here is my old article on the topic: https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=9…

But he was talking about ITC, boy blunder. Now run along back to the kiddie table or, better yet, go fetch us some real information and perspectives. ;)

@Shadow: LOL - I need that those t-shirts.

@SuperDude: Certain Providence clubs are like that too. And I don't know much about places like Houston or San Fran, but I've heard similar things about those places also. It is nice when you don't have to go through the hassle of trying to figure out who and what. :)
Dougster
12 years ago
That's pretty funny all on its own Rick. Especially the importance you think how you dress makes, and trying to impress them with your job. (The whole project a James Bond persona right?)

And then claiming only 35% are up for it? In reality it's well over 50% and more like 80% if you focus on the 9s and 10s like I do.

But you had more even funnier advice in other posts of yours like target single mothers, avoid younger girls, hang around clubs with down on their luck type customers, don't buy dances at all. That's one pretty comedic article you posted now keep it going and repost the full range of your advice, if you the guts that is.

And one more thing, genius, since they are just whores "just ask" works equally well as any stupid system whether the goal is ITC or OTC. Too funny!
Dougster
12 years ago
Final question for you, Ricky-boy, would you agree that a guy like you who seriously thinks you need to wear a suit to a club (but this is only works best if others are not doing the same) and impress them with imaginary jobs is actually the one sitting at the kiddie table?

Think it's the grown ups here who understand the whole notion of trying to impress whores (who would do it anyway) into OTC is rather childish. Don't get mad though now, Rick. Just telling it like it is.
stripclubspy
12 years ago
Give it a rest, Dougster. This website does not exist so you can work out your ego issues.

I second the notion that anyone asking this question should come to detroit. If the dancer asks you if you want to go to the VIP, just ask her what's on the table before you go back there.
rickdugan
12 years ago
"And then claiming only 35% are up for it? In reality it's well over 50% and more like 80% if you focus on the 9s and 10s like I do."

Fraudster, are you making shit up yet again? LOL. No you don't. In fact, as we all know, you barely, if ever, go to clubs at all.

"And one more thing, genius, since they are just whores "just ask" works equally well as any stupid system whether the goal is ITC or OTC."

Don't do this to yourself, seriously dude. LMAO. Get yourself out to a club sometime and see how they really work. I hear there are a couple of good ones in Seattle. You've even posted fake reviews about them. Think about how nice would it be to actually post a review where you really visit and actually spend money on a woman. ;)

Final question for you, Ricky-boy, would you agree that a guy like you who seriously thinks you need to wear a suit to a club (but this is only works best if others are not doing the same) and impress them with imaginary jobs is actually the one sitting at the kiddie table?

Well, I actually impress them with a real job, but if it is someone like you I suggest that he lie. ;) But of course good clothes matters. If a money hungry girl is scanning the room and sees 9 scrubs and 2 guys in suits, who do you think she is going to focus on?

You really ought to go out to a club sometime. Most of them are wheelchair accessible nowadays if you need that. You might find the experience to be educational. :)

Too funny.
inno123
12 years ago
There is no single rule but there is only one variable: how much does she need to worry that you are a cop.

Even in Tijuana prostitution is technically illegal. but the police do not ever investigate what goes on inside the clubs so you can simply ask what is the price to do this or that.

And if you look at the reviews of clubs like Adelitas the price is what it is. There is not one price for nice looking guys who spends a bunch of money up front and another for ugly looking guys (unless all these reviewers are equally attractive). If the girl really finds you too unattractive to do for her price she will find some excuse not to come to your table in the first place.

Now there are places in the US where the chances of your being a cop are as low as they are in Tijuana. You can learn them from the reviews. In these places a discrete 'just ask' applies.

For the other places the question is how to get her trust that you are not a cop. One way is multiple visits. Since I am not that frequent a visitor I need to pass the test in the first visit, ideally in one song's private dance. So while she is facing me I reach down and stroke the inside of her thigh, then sliding to the mons. If she moves her hand down and pushes mine away I know that extras are not available. If she instead reaches down and strokes me we have reached an understanding. I have gone farther than a cop would and she is willing to go farther too. Then I whisper my offer near her ear.
shadowcat
12 years ago
inno123 - Prostitution is legal in Tijuana's Zona Norte where the clubs are located.
motorhead
12 years ago
“Do you work at Subway? Because you’re giving me a foot-long"


Works I everytime. I guarantee it.
Alucard
12 years ago
Dougster thinks the whole TUSCL site revolves around him and his "comments". LMAO
mikeya02
12 years ago
@motorhead, haha, good one! Now if only Dougie boy would conjur up Bobbyl, or Iniquitous, or the recently departed Steve 3003 to chime in.
georgmicrodong
12 years ago
Uh, Alucard, as long as numbnuts keep responding to him, he's right.

Dougster is constitutionally incapable of stopping when he's responded to. It doesn't matter if he's right or wrong. When he's right, he can't stop gloating about it. When he's not, he can't admit it. For him, getting the last word is a "win", irrespective of whether he's right or wrong, while the rest of us let him have it it, because, well, it's pointless to continue pounding of granite with one's head. That doesn't make the granite right, just harder.

Rick, for some insane reason, seems to enjoy poking him for his own personal pleasure, while mikeya02 and others feel the need to defend themselves from his comments, as useless as that is. You, on the other hand, don't seem to have any motive other than making your voice heard and feeding his enjoyment.

If you stop, so will he.
Clackport
12 years ago
It looks like this has turned into another Dougster vs everyone else thread. We should start a list of people of who don't have any respect for Doug. It's goes something like: Steve229, Alucard, vincemichaels, Omega22, txtittyfan, Rick Dugan, Player11, mikeya02, jester214.

Am I missing anyone?
Dougster
12 years ago
Challenge is still open for nearly a year and counting Ricky-boy. If my reviews are fake then why can't you or anyone flag a single one? Heck, beyond mikeya02 and his GED powered brain you can't even get anyone to say they agree with you.

As for suit versus non-suit. I never wear one to a club and my success rate with OTC is around, 80% while you wear one and can only manage 35%.
Dougster
12 years ago
Of course they don't like me. The strip club experience is a bug ego boost for them because they actually believe the strippers when the strippers lie and mislead to feed their egos. They come here expecting a circle jerk to further inflate their puny egos and I just crash them back to reality. Not exactly what they were hoping for.
jester214
12 years ago
Or it could be we don't like you're repetitive and pathetic attempts to insult your betters? Your repetitive and unnecessary misogynistic crap? Because I can assure you I have no misconceptions about strip clubs, in fact you called me a cynic.

Must be sad to only get to be a tough guy on the internet. Hiding behind childish insults of "you're a girl" and "privacy issues".
Dougster
12 years ago
You are cynical about everything in life jestie, to the point where disagreeing becomes the only goal. Even if it means contradicting yourself in as little as one paragraph just so you can maximize the number of times you get to disagree. It's called passive-aggressive personality disorder and you epitomize it. Makes turning you into mince-meat in debated trivial though since you just grab what is right in front of you with even concern for what you said two sentences ago.

As for misogyny that's probably you. But if you don't think so show me one statement of mine that is - my negative comments are confined to a certain type of stripper never about normal women. It's only you'd PAD mind distorting things onto the worst case.
inno123
12 years ago
@shadowcat I stand corrected, I was under the presumption that it was simply intentionally ignored there rather than that there was a specific law making it legal.
Dougster
12 years ago
In any case, if five guys had to jump in to help Ricky boy, looks like I was spot on about how childish he is to think he is impressing whores into OTC because he is picking clubs where he will be the only one wearing a suit whereas just ask won't work in that case. What a fuckin' joke!
jester214
12 years ago
Lol "debate". You don't debate, nor do you know how to. You simply insult, usually in a very illogical manor.

Your use of the word "whores" is entirely misogynistic. If you don't think it isn't then you don't know what those words mean, which wouldn't surprise me since you don't seem to know what a lot of words mean.

But answer me this, what does you're constant comment about txtittysfan's supposed mistake in the stock market have to do with bringing people back into reality in regards to their strip club "delusions"?? Because you've been harping on about that for months if not years.

^Can't wait to read that justification.
Dougster
12 years ago
Jestie - go check the dictionary. A "whore" is a woman who provides sexual services for money. That is the dictionary straight out of Webster. Since strippers meet that definition by grinding on guys dicks for money (something sexual sine it is related to sex - again check the dictionary) they meet definition of "whores". There is no "misogyny" because the word doesn't imply hatred of all women. Heck, it doesn't even imply hatred of those who do provide sex related services for money. Just says that is what they do. So you lose on saying use of that word shows hatred of women in general. Just another example of how turning someone with PAPD like you is trivial due to how your mind filters what I actually say and how the world actually is into worst case scenario even if it defies all logic.

And, yeah, txtittyfan definitely fucked saying to short treasuries over the last three years. I'll keep mentioning it until he finally admits he was wrong which I expect to be.... never!
Dougster
12 years ago
One more thing, jestie. It's rare for me to be first one to insult anyone around here. A good example was in the debate with omega22 recently where I started slaughtering him re: statistical sampling. He couldn't handle it and started the insults against me. That is objectively what happened but it's a pretty well known psychological phenomena for people's memories of past events to be distorted and biased toward seeing themselves in a more favorable light than was actually the case. On a deeper level they do this to minimize the amount of cognitive dissonance they need to deal with.

It's rare for me to be the first to insult anyone on here. Certainly in the case if you and gmd for instance I didn't even notice you guys let alone insult you until after I was forced to examine who you were after all your insults you directed against me first.

In a future post I will discuss the herding/groupthink aspect of this board and how it amuses me by causing so many here to believe not what is actually/objectively true but what the herd here implies it's okay to believe (ie that which contributes to the desired circle jerk.) but another day. It is late now...
newmark
12 years ago
I am glad somebody finally asked this question.
jester214
12 years ago
"Whore" can mean prostitute but also promiscuity and immorality. In today's society it has an extremely negative connotation going far beyond that of "prostitute". The vast majority of the time "whore" is used today it does not having anything to do with the exchange of money for sex. It's used as an insult, which you clearly know. Considering the group your targeting making is misogynistic.

Basically "whore" (especially when you use it) is a pejorative.

And thanks for proving my point in regards to txtittyfan, I knew I could count on you to fail miserably.
Dougster
12 years ago
Sorry, jestie-girl, I'm not responsible if people are reading things into the words I choose that do not follow from the definition. Especially when I've clarified numerous times that I am using it definition straight out of Webster sense numerous times. Not my problem of dumb brains like yours read more than what is there. You told me to look at the definition and when I did and you lost, now you're like "well beyond the definitions..." again always changing your positions so you disagree, disagree, disagree... That's your only goal.

My advice to you and others is to learn the definition of words before you read more than what is there.

But beyond that your logic is still broken even if I was using the meaning you wish I was as opposed to what I actually am. That is because misogyny means hatred of women in general not a very small subset of them (maybe 1 in 500 women become strippers during their lives?) If I said bad things about female thieves for instance, it would in no way follow except in your stupid mind, that the same things applied to non-thieves.

So your leaps have absolutely zero logical merit. Just you charging at some windmills.

Not my problem that people here dont't understand the meaning of words, even after I clarify many times, and love to illogical generalizations to make themselves feel like heroes.

JESTIE-GIRL LOSES AGAIN!

(now go back to point out typos)
Dougster
12 years ago
Oh, and jestie, I find it amusing how you conveniently duck the issues of which of the two of us insulted the other first. Again another of your claims that you lose on, loser that you are.
motorhead
12 years ago
What did Col Kurtz say when in word into a Saigon strip club?

"The whore! The whore!"
motorhead
12 years ago
damn smart phone ruined my line


." in word" should be "he walked"

WTF???
rickdugan
12 years ago
"In any case, if five guys had to jump in to help Ricky boy, looks like I was spot on about how childish he is to think he is impressing whores into OTC because he is picking clubs where he will be the only one wearing a suit whereas just ask won't work in that case."

I need five guys to help me deal with you about as much as I need to call the state police to discipline my 5 year old. ;) LOL.

As for all the rest of your nonsense, this is about people with ample experience in the trenches telling you, a guy who doesn't roll into clubs too often, how it actually works out there. All the bluster in the world cannot hide the fact that your posts come off as either extremely simplistic or painfully academic in nature and that you are clueless about real world club dynamics.

Only you know why you continue to post fake reviews and bad insights on this site, but it is a truly sad thing to see.
Dougster
12 years ago
And yet you can't post the name of anyone other than the GED powered brain of mikeya02 who agrees with you that my reviews are fake.

And yeah, rick, strip club dynamics are pretty simple. See whore. Like whore. Want extras/OTC from whore. Ask whore. 80% chances she agrees. If not cut losses and ask next whore. Don't take no 10 years to figure that out!
Clackport
12 years ago
LMAO, you can say what you want about Doug, but you gotta admit this dude is enertaining as hell. "GED powered brain", LOL. I don't even remember the original question of this thread LMAO.
mikeya02
12 years ago
How dare you Dougie, I never said a word about your reviews. What the hell is wrong with you?
Dougster
12 years ago
Well there's a comment from you in a thread called "aggressive or passive" where you chime in agreeing with Rick (your comment was on August. 3rd) after he claims my reviews are fake (but of course can't flag them or get anyone to agree with him).

But if you want to disclaim it now, fine, I'll let change your mind. That will leave a grand total of 0 people though who Rick can name that agree with him that my reviews are fake.

(And of course he was never serious about his claim in the first place. You could tell by how he shifts his position from saying "all fake" to "most fake" to simply "not useful" depending how confident he feels in his deceptive abilities at any given moment. Eg was he recently caught with his hand in the cookie jar over something else? If so he'll temporarily cool it, but if not he'll try for the grand slam. I already have pegged as full blown NPD but his patterns when attempting to deceive are very similar to what sociopaths do as described by Hare. There is other evidence of anti-social traits in his particular narcissism, for example how he forgoes protection with whores despite the fact that he is married. My guess is that a study of how he conducts business would turn up more anti-social/sociopathic traits, but I'm not sure if he would get the dual diagnosis or not. His choice to try to insult me by claiming I'm in a wheelchair makes me wonder even more about possible ASPD traits.

Any that ought to answer some of George apparent puzzling over Rick's outrageous but transparent deception strategies.
rickdugan
12 years ago
@Fraudster: You do realize, do you not, that you are singly responsible for 15 or the 47 posts, and probably half of the word count, in this thread? And virtually all of that vehement yet meaningless nonsense was posted to defend either your absurd positions or your non-existent experience? And you call me a narcissist. LOL.

Dude, go cash in the change in your coin jar and visit a club or two. ;) You might find it to be far more enjoyable than siting on here creating fake personas with fake experiences. Too funny.
Dougster
12 years ago
And Ricky-boy once again ducks my challenge to name a single person who agrees with him that my reviews are fake. Last chance ricky-boy. Duck the challenge again and we'll just take it as you officially withdrawing your claim.
Dougster
12 years ago
And yeah, it took a few words to do the double KO of jestie-girl and Ricky-boy in this thread, but the end result was worth it.

Got to love the smell of roasted Ricky-boy in the morning. Smells like... Victory!
rickdugan
12 years ago
"And Ricky-boy once again ducks my challenge to name a single person who agrees with him that my reviews are fake. Last chance ricky-boy. Duck the challenge again and we'll just take it as you officially withdrawing your claim."

Fraudster, it is not a claim, but a clear as day fact. I don't need to poll others to describe what is staring me right in the face. ;)

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