I'm quitting SCing and "the hobby". I've had too many bad dances at too many difference clubs. About five years ago, I stopped looking for legitimate strip clubs and started seeing escorts. VIP at a the club I was frequenting was like over $200/15 min and maybe she would grind on you to completion, maybe not. An escort session was $120/30 min with much more than a lap dance. I did that infrequently for fear of the pulise. I got sick of that about a year ago. There were too many escort ads with blurry pics or the face cut out. I walked into too many ugly traps. There were lots of no call/no shows. I started looking for extras in strip clubs because I could take my pick of the girl I thought was hot. I would never ask a dancer outright for extras, for fear of insulting a valuable entertainer. I always went to clubs where I had a feeling that only dancers willing to do extras were hired. Lately though, my tried and true VVh0r3 houses were letting me down. The dancers would even move the bikini for a peek! They would tell me some shit like, "I can't because there is a camera." when I know damn well the managers don't give a shit and sell VV33D on top of it! So all my VVh0r3 houses have dried up. I'd even take a good grind from a 7.5, but I can't even find that! I feel like the scene is dead or laying low. I don't feel like waiting around to find out if it is going to revive.
So I'm sure I'm going to get the usual reply advice like:
Patience pays off.
When you look too hard, you won't find it.
Don't go to a SC expecting a VVh0r3 house.
I'm just done. I'm tired of shelling out the cash. I'm tired of the late nights. I'm tired of it being a complicated mission. This NJ hobbyist is retired.
You are really fucking whiney, aren't you? Don't blame the hobby or the girls just because you don't know how to source your action properly. And in Jersey of all places - LMAO.
Fine, go cry into your pillow and chomp on your milk and cookies while you watch the Lifetime channel.
Sorry you can't find someone to have a fruitful in Club relationship with. I've been extraordinarily lucky to find a Fabulous ATF in a Detroit area Club. Good Luck with your sex life.
If you just joined tuscl read up on the insight posted to shorten the learning curve as it's done for me. Ask questions you want advice on. Don't just whine and complain.
Maybe you need to go on a diet? Lose a few lbs and the girls will be on you again. Theres even a guy on here who is an expert at staying fit and trim, you should pm him.
Well in the Motor city you'll definitely find dancers who will go all the way if you go looking for them in the right clubs.
You have to take some risks too. Don't shy from asking for what you're looking for, you may find a hidden gem by taking a chance philqclient. I did a few months ago.
"I would never ask a dancer outright for extras, for fear of insulting a valuable entertainer."
In my opinion, that is exactly the wrong approach!
And, by the way, get your whiny ass out of here!
Okay, so everybody gets to take a potshot at the OP. Quit whining, don't let the door hit your ass, blah-blah-blah. But he has a point. I don't know about you degenerates, but there has been a recession out there and I have been one of the casualties. So excuse me if I am not independently wealthy and can't afford to throw money at dancers to set up OTC and champagne rooms and all that crap. Checking the couch cushions for loose change at home does not make for a great night of clubbing, so I have been on a self-imposed hiatus. I have ventured out occasionally, with a very meager set of small bills. I have noticed that the clubs have tightened their belts, the value is far less, the clubs are taking more, the service is blase', the evenings are less fun. When you have far less money to spread around, you watch it more closely and you get a little cranky when you get shitty attitudes and poor value for your money. And sometimes you feel like hanging it up for a while. I can understand that. But if you think that entitles you to give the guy a wedgie and kick him in the ass, I don't agree at all. Some of you pompous twits ought to remember that karma is a bitch.
You've got to admit - the OP was an easy target. I'm mean, who JOINS TUSCL just to tell us he is quitting strip clubs? That's some ass backwards thinking. Then he plays Navajo Codetalker. BTW, I'm old but it really wasn't too hard to figure it out.
His mistake is believing strip clubs should be brothels. Some are. Some are not. I usually don't go looking to get laid. If I want a blow job I know where to go. If his intent is just achieving an orgasm then he's making the right decision to seek out an escort.
You don't buy a hammer to take the lug nuts off of your tires then blame the hammer. Even if it's an expensive hammer.
" But if you think that entitles you to give the guy a wedgie and kick him in the ass, I don't agree at all. Some of you pompous twits ought to remember that karma is a bitch."
"So excuse me if I am not independently wealthy and can't afford to throw money at dancers to set up OTC and champagne rooms and all that crap."
I can't afford to throw money at a cruise vacation, but did I join Carnival's boards for the sole purpose of whinging that nobody would give me free boat rides? No.
Looney, I did not give him shit because he is funding challenged, but rather for the whiney way in which he posted this. I am also trying to wrap my arms around how a guy from NJ could have so much trouble finding decent, and reasonably priced, p4p, nevermind all of that nonsense relating to escorts.
But on the $$$ front, if one cannot afford to go to a club, then one should not go. At the risk of speaking heresy in these parts, does anyone really NEED a strip club?
I would agree that it is damned hard to have a good time in a SC without some green in the pocket, which is why I do not go when my liquidity is light. But I don't go on sites like this and bitch and moan about it, including my many failures in setting up decent action.
Okay, so give me a mulligan. All good points. Why join a site to bitch about quitting clubbing? Quite right, mh, on the codetalker point.
Unless I have stumbled into an amazing string of coincidental mediocrity, my perception is that clubs are taking a hit and the talent is down and service is waning. For places that exist to create illusions and fantasies, there have been a lot of marginal times lately. But I guess the girl carrying 20 extra pounds and a huge chip on her shoulder will find out soon enough that stripping can be less than lucrative. During times of belt tightening, I don't *need* a strip club, I don't *need* frozen yogurt, and I don't *need* a massage.
I have some sympathy with the position of the OP and looneylarry. My businesses are white hot at the moment so my time for clubbing is now very meagre. Even so, when I am traveling I am now much more likely to seek out a new restaurant or a blues club for entertainment rather than a new or old favourite SC.
I am a bit jaded at the moment but I am bringing my Toronto favourite out to Rancho farmerart for the coming long weekend so perhaps she can rekindle my 'enthusiasm' for the delights of SCs.
"At the risk of speaking heresy in these parts, does anyone really NEED a strip club?"
No, but for me, strip clubs are a means to an end, not the end itself. They just happen to be, for a variety of reasons that have been discussed many times here, the best means at the moment. Virtually certain outcomes, with a variety of ways to change it up.
Since this guy has caught SO much flack for joining only to voice a whiny sounding complaint, perhaps a way to VV33D out [Pun intended] persons like this is to require buying a membership. NOT necessarily a Lifetime membership, but perhaps a year for a reasonable, but not cheap sum of $$. This might be a way to get only more serious members. Just a thought.
Only if Founder wants to drastically cut down the number of users. Sure, there's the occasional goofball, but the free discussions and contributory nature of the rest of the board seems to work well.
When I joined in back in aught six, I bought a membership. I thought it was required. At least for the first time until you submitted reviews. Did it change or was I just confused
I didn't join to whine here. I joined and the more I thought about it, the more I didn't want to pour time into looking at reviews. I spent quite a bit of time on an escort board before finding tuscl. I'm sick of hoping that some one else's definition of hot matches up with mine. I'm sick of reading rave reviews, getting a no call+no show, then hearing "oh well, YMMV". It just makes no sense to me to go to a club that I've gotten extras at a dozen times or alternately been told "I don't do VIP" to get lead on with no bj.
Fuck you all who just jumped on to flame me. I thought this was a SC board, not a shit talking board. Fuck the mods/admins for letting this go on. Eat my shit. Now I know I'm doing the right thing by quitting the hobby.
"Fuck you all who just jumped on to flame me. I thought this was a SC board, not a shit talking board. Fuck the mods/admins for letting this go on. Eat my shit. Now I know I'm doing the right thing by quitting the hobby."
When you settle down & stop being so angry & think about your situation with a clearer mind, you may wish to reconsider. Give yourself some time & space & relax. Good Luck!
Oh no, of course not. You didn't join to whine, but you have precisely two posts, and "whine" is a good summary of both of them. First you whine about not being able to get pussy in a strip club, then you whine about people who call you a whiney pussy for it.
"Fuck you all who just jumped on to flame me. I thought this was a SC board, not a shit talking board. Fuck the mods/admins for letting this go on. Eat my shit. Now I know I'm doing the right thing by quitting the hobby."
Pussy. Don't let the door snag your skirt on the way out.
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Fine, go cry into your pillow and chomp on your milk and cookies while you watch the Lifetime channel.
How's that for some advice?
"Every time I think i'm out . . . they pull me back in!"
Perhaps to have someone lend an ear to his complaints.
Well in the Motor city you'll definitely find dancers who will go all the way if you go looking for them in the right clubs.
You have to take some risks too. Don't shy from asking for what you're looking for, you may find a hidden gem by taking a chance philqclient. I did a few months ago.
In my opinion, that is exactly the wrong approach!
And, by the way, get your whiny ass out of here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CdJTfGiR…
"Well...bye"
@how - Are you channeling "Curly Bill"? lol
Yeah, this Old guy needs to be enlightened also. LOL
I'm an old fart too.
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You've got to admit - the OP was an easy target. I'm mean, who JOINS TUSCL just to tell us he is quitting strip clubs? That's some ass backwards thinking. Then he plays Navajo Codetalker. BTW, I'm old but it really wasn't too hard to figure it out.
His mistake is believing strip clubs should be brothels. Some are. Some are not. I usually don't go looking to get laid. If I want a blow job I know where to go. If his intent is just achieving an orgasm then he's making the right decision to seek out an escort.
You don't buy a hammer to take the lug nuts off of your tires then blame the hammer. Even if it's an expensive hammer.
I've tried to be a bit helpful. :)
I can't afford to throw money at a cruise vacation, but did I join Carnival's boards for the sole purpose of whinging that nobody would give me free boat rides? No.
But on the $$$ front, if one cannot afford to go to a club, then one should not go. At the risk of speaking heresy in these parts, does anyone really NEED a strip club?
I would agree that it is damned hard to have a good time in a SC without some green in the pocket, which is why I do not go when my liquidity is light. But I don't go on sites like this and bitch and moan about it, including my many failures in setting up decent action.
"At the risk of speaking heresy in these parts, does anyone really NEED a strip club?"
NOT really. :)
Exactly. +1 for Rick
Live & Learn! And there are plenty of teachers here. LOL
Unless I have stumbled into an amazing string of coincidental mediocrity, my perception is that clubs are taking a hit and the talent is down and service is waning. For places that exist to create illusions and fantasies, there have been a lot of marginal times lately. But I guess the girl carrying 20 extra pounds and a huge chip on her shoulder will find out soon enough that stripping can be less than lucrative. During times of belt tightening, I don't *need* a strip club, I don't *need* frozen yogurt, and I don't *need* a massage.
NOT what I'm in Clubs for now. I'll the search to those who want that.
I am a bit jaded at the moment but I am bringing my Toronto favourite out to Rancho farmerart for the coming long weekend so perhaps she can rekindle my 'enthusiasm' for the delights of SCs.
No, but for me, strip clubs are a means to an end, not the end itself. They just happen to be, for a variety of reasons that have been discussed many times here, the best means at the moment. Virtually certain outcomes, with a variety of ways to change it up.
Only if Founder wants to drastically cut down the number of users. Sure, there's the occasional goofball, but the free discussions and contributory nature of the rest of the board seems to work well.
Fuck you all who just jumped on to flame me. I thought this was a SC board, not a shit talking board. Fuck the mods/admins for letting this go on. Eat my shit. Now I know I'm doing the right thing by quitting the hobby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Sgvq98m…
When you settle down & stop being so angry & think about your situation with a clearer mind, you may wish to reconsider. Give yourself some time & space & relax. Good Luck!
Oh no, of course not. You didn't join to whine, but you have precisely two posts, and "whine" is a good summary of both of them. First you whine about not being able to get pussy in a strip club, then you whine about people who call you a whiney pussy for it.
So shut the fuck up and fucking quit already.
A whole lotta fucking goin' on.
Except, of course, for the OP
An expected reaction.
As is yours. So what? Oh wait, never mind. I understand.
Pussy. Don't let the door snag your skirt on the way out.
OP: I'm not sure what you were looking for here. If you were looking for sympathy, you'll find it between "shit" and "syphilis" in the dictionary.
I'm presuming NOT! Since SO many people are jumping ALL over his Ass!!