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I would'nt pay for a HJITC. Have gotten them during the course of multiple dances and have tipped well afterwards. I've had dancers suggest them for a price but I've declined. if I'm interested in the dancer, i've suggested a BJ as a positive alternative. Some will, some won't for different reasons. Somehow a HJ seems so mechanical.

Well kids, as of this afternoon I now have a point of reference. I guess I joined the ITC HJ club.. unsolicited, quite unexpected.. happy ending to a 10 dance VIP session. 15 bucks a dance, 150.. plus a 30 dollar tip.. which is probably what I would have paid without the handy.. but 180 for whole experience. Very interesting.. I never would have expected the *ahem* equipment to function fully in public like that.. yeah I consider a full VIP room public.. but she was bound and determined to reach an amicable conclusion. Good for her!

T-Bone: what I said was I don't do Full Service in the clubs. The reason for this is that it's uncomfortable and risky. I have done full service with many strippers who also happen to be escorts-in a hotel room. Don't kid yourself, if they are giving full service ITC or OTC, they are no different than the escorts I find on the internet.

When you go to a club and see a beautiful woman you have no way of knowing how good her dances will be until you buy one. Looking for an escort either in the club or on line isn't much different. You don't really know what you are getting until you pay for it at least once. How do you know that hot stripper on stage is going to be a great lay? The answer is you don't. You are rolling the dice either way.

Book Guy is right on. You can look online at 100 pictures of an escort, read the reviews, know exactly the price and the service level. But.........it just isn't the same as going to a club and the thrill of searching out that girl that just fits your eye and you really want to have an experience with. Economics - you win with the escort 99% of the time but that's not what it's about, I guess it's the thrill of the hunt that is breed into all of us. The little fear of getting caught of doing something a little naughty lol but isn't that why we can call an escort have her do everything that she promised pay her the agreed upon price and feel like we got ripped off but then on the other hand go to a club find a hot blonde, redhead, brunette - enter your choice lol - buy her drinks, get dances, get promises, get nothing, spent twice what the escort costs and go home feeling like we had one hell of a time lol

Yoda - i get what you're saying man, but i can't help it.... I still find it kinda hilarious that you'll FS escorts but not strippers ;)

I'm in a city in Michigan. I was here back when Fantasia was going strong. Since then, I've made a couple of trips to Niagara Falls, but nothing else in Canada for the purpose of consorting with dancing girls. Montreal is high on my list now. I've been there before in pursuit of other types of fun.

Chandler, what city are you in now? Golly, we could reminisce all about Fantasia. I think some dudes who aren't into "in the club" experiences over "escort" experiences simply haven't had the top-notch fun we had at Fantasia!

Also, I fondly recall Fantasia from a few visits in 1995-97. Never went in a private booth, but I got all I needed out in the open. Nowadays, there's Seductions in Niagara Falls, of course, although that's a big comedown from Richmond Hills' heyday. The place I've heard about near Montreal is Chez Diane near the US border.

Book Guy: You took the words out of my mouth, point for point. I've been saying all those things here for months and feeling like a voice in the wilderness. I might be more extreme than you in that I don't care for VIP rooms or total privacy, and I'm not up for most any form of sex to completion at a club. I like to keep the tease going for as long as I'm there.

Never pay more than the dance price. Have gotten alot more than HJ for a couple of 2 for 30 dances.

Honestly, there are times for me when it's BETTER to be in a strip club trying to do it furtively. It's exciting. I respond positively to many more aspects of club extras than I do to escort extras. Some things I like:

look before you touch. I like seeing her assets -- all her assets -- before interacting with them. I guess internet pictures aren't sufficient for me.

variety. I like swapping to a new girl whenever I want to.

immediate gratification. I like being able to slake horniness at the time that horniness strikes, rather than having to plan so far ahead that I don't know whether I'll want to get with the girl when the girl finally does show up at the front door.

the hunt. I like seeing her, moving in on her, learning something about her, consistently getting closer and closer. Rather than making a business-like choice with the big head, I'm slowly but surely letting the little head take over THROUGH THE PROCESS. And I can defuse this and move on to a different girl whenever she does something disappointing or that disinterests me or turns me off.

the chase. In addition, I like BEING hunted. I like her seeking me out, playing the game of reaching her hand around and letting me know what her touch is like. I can find out whether she'll do X or Y with a certain smoothness or interpersonal care. I can see whether she acts like a girlfriend or a masseuse or a laboratory technician with her skills (all of the above are perfectly valid solutions to the perennial problem, by the way).

the safety. Yes, I think being surrounded by a crowd of other furtive and mildly embarrassed club-goers is better than being alone in the dark with a total stranger. Funny me.

I started my mongering life at a club called Fantasia in Richmond Hill, north of Toronto. It was a free-for-all. Those of you who ever went there in the early- to mid-nineties will know, there were rooms where everything was done, for a (mildly reasonable) entry fee plus the girl's charges. It was (I now can look back and determine) absolutely ridiculous. As far as I can tell, only the brothel / dance-halls overseas, such as Adelita's in Tijuana Mexico and the bar-fine girls in the Philippines add up to that nowadays.

Maybe San Francisco's MBOT? I don't know, haven't been there. The reviews look good. Also some clubs in south Quebec province? Advice welcome. :)

T-Bone: Getting a hand job from a stripper in a dance booth is absolutley nothing like spending an hour or two in a nice hotel room having sex with a beautiful woman who isn't worried about when the bouncer will show up. Also, I AM paying for dances when I get these extras in clubs so it's not like I'm just walking in and getting a freebie. The other night I paid about $375 for an hour in the VIP room with a dancer who would do FS with me if I wanted it (I don't do FS in the club, it takes me too long with a condom on). Most of the other dancers who do extras with me end up getting at least a hundred dollars plus whatever the house fee is for a private room. I'm currently paying between $300 and $500 for two or three hours with my favorite escorts. If you do the math the escorts are a much better deal. This is the primary reason I won't pay "extra" for extras and also the reason I don't try to get dancers to do anything they don't want to do. I enjoy each experience for what it is.

I'm going to add up some ideas in my head here, by checking the clubs that various members of this discussion have regularly visited, on the basis of their reviews. For me, who ends up paying extra for extras, you can see from my reviews that I've been attending certain clubs in certain (mostly southern, recently) cities. Is it the case, you fellers who are also in this discussion, that your extras experiences (paying or not) were at locactions that you regularly review on TUSCL? If so, then I'm gunna follow the links to learn about the regions in the USA etc.

Yoda - I find it hilarious that you don't/won't pay for extras from a stripper but you frequently pay for escorts.

I've actually only paid for 2 of the ??? hjs i've ever gotten. Once at MBOT $150 (you really have no choice there) and once this week at YBor Strip $20.

Though I gotta say...it's always WAY better when its mutual for free in the VIP ;).

I've never been anywhere close to being offered a HJ in any of these clubs.. so I don't even have a point of reference.. but then again, I'm fairly new at this.. less than a year, so I have a ways to go yet. So much to learn!

Honestly, and nobody wants to hear this I know, but my "method" is just to be respectful and accept what is offered. I've never paid for extras but Ive also never asked for them. Some girls will and some won't and I don't go looking for "extras" girls.
I just spend money on a girl that I like.

Shadow: That's a good deal. I've paid between $200 and $400 for full service but it's always two or three hours and more than one "pop". Most escorts charge by the hour though many independents are not really clock watchers.

I want to know Yoda's methods. I've enjoyed many levels of service in clubs, too, but never without the typical upsell. I don't necessarily mind that -- I've come to expect it at certain locations. But I would love to "score" without paying for it. Wouldn't we all? :)

I have recieved HJ, BJ and FS in clubs and have never paid more than the price of the dance or VIP room. In other words, I don't pay for extras.

T-bone, I think that's an impossible question to answer. It would depend entirely on the girl and the circumstances. Since I almost never take more than $200 into a club I guess that would have to be the max. But I agree with Shadowcat, it's rarely a direct transaction. I think if a girl ever said to me in a club that she'd give me a HJ for $x I'd probably say I wan't interested. Matter of fact that's only ever happened to me once and that is what I said.

I can pretty much get a hj for free from several girls in a couple of different clubs.

Good commentary, but I think you all may have missed the point.

How much (maximum) would you ever pay??

What body language would I even need to exhibit to give the impression I was interested in a HJ? Never even had one suggested, nor would I have a clue how to get one for $0.

You guys left out

How horny I was
How hot her eyes were

How horny I was
How nice her tits were

How horny I was
How much she let me feel