What next.....
motorhead
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
When a dancer gives me her phone number then texts me the next day and asks me do you want to get dinner or something? What is next? Is "or something" meaningful, or I am just an optimist?
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Anything could be next! From a great time for the rest of your life to being taken to the cleaners or ending up dead in some hotel room. Meaningful, possible, but not likely. Yes, you are!
Hopefully, It won't be like the time I had this great **** hotel room and invited a dancer (#1) I was doing now-and-then OTC with to stay the night and drain all my juices from me! ...While I'm waiting for her...now 2 hours late, spinner #2 who I was trying to avoid because she was hitting me up for too many loans, calls totally out of the blue, and wanted to get together. Damn, spinner #2 did the best *69* imaginable, and she'd do back door for same price. Sorry, baby but I've got plans this evening....dang...but #1 is very good as well!
Now 3 hours late - I'm waiting patiently and trying not to drink up all the booze when #1 calls from the parking garage - 20 minutes later she's at the door half shot (booze n' blow), dressed like a tramp. Agrees that she would feel better if we got something to eat. It's 9pm, kitchens will be closing soon, so we go down the block to a Ruth's Chris. Can still get dinner, and I haven't had one of their 6" thick fillets in a long time - good deal, we settle into a booth, and we start to talk; her eyes get far away and she passes out. WTF...waiter, can we cancel our order. Nope. $75 "go box" and I'm carrying her out and back to the room, and into the bed. I drank the rest of the beer and watched TV thinking she might wake-up, get a second wind and blow me...or somethin'. She slept till 9am.
Put her in her car in the morning, watched her pull out of the garage and ate great steak left-overs for two days.
I never saw or heard from #2 again...dang! #1 showed up six years later at the same club we'd met at. Now weighed an extra 50 or 60 pounds, mother of 2, wanted money BEFORE the lap dance and looked like shit.
So, motorhead, the moral of the story is: when you f**k around with strippers.....
IF you’re really interested in pursuing despite above warnings and possible $$$ ruin...DO NOT text back that yes, you’d like that OR any other test message that says or implies you’re really very interested and drooling on yourself in anticipation.
DO reply with something showing MILD interest, such as “might be fun†followed by “but I’m [you] very busy for the next three days [you have a life other than lusting after her AND you’ve already arranged to have your sex needs catered to for those 3 days].
In other words your slightly interested in possibilities with her BUT if it doesn’t happen it’s no great loss to you. AND you have to back it up with actions. At this point what “something†means is totally irrelevant; what is most important is who is “top dog†in the transaction.
If she doesn’t respond to your text immediately, forget OTC with her. It never was a real possibility.
If she does respond and no matter what she says your response is: “Hey [use her SS name, no terms of endearment], real busy now, can’t talk, when things slow down maybe we can chat†DO NOT respond to any further texts from her [you REALLY are very busy and have a full life outside the club]. DO NOT talk about any OTC with her [by text or voicemail] until you see her face to face in club and WAIT for her to bring it up. If she doesn't, forget OTC and don’t reward her by getting LDs. Cool it with her ITC for awhile [be pleasant but uninterested] or forever depending on your gut reaction to the discussion.
If she raises OTC with you, remain mildly interested but don’t jump at first offered date -- you’re a busy guy and have other “love†interests to keep you satisfied, you don’t NEED her but you are interested. From there, it really depends on how things play out. If you’re both still interested and you don’t detect any major game playing or manipulation [e.g., loan requests] on her part then you can suggest meeting for...coffee, drinks etc at someplace NOT frequented by other club employees. Don't accomodate her schedule, you're the busy one. You must set a time limit to first meeting by saying that you have another meeting, appt, whatever and must leave meeting with her after one hour. AND DO SO. DO NOT discuss sex or further OTC at this time. If she presses you, just reply you’ll talk to her next time you’re in the club [leave that "next time" vague BC you’re a busy guy...]. If you fall prey to lust and accomodate her or appear more than mildly interested, she has you by the b***s. Forget OTC, she's got what she wanted.
WHY? Because in addition to the possibility of SS OTC scam you also are facing the need of every women to repeatedly verify that she is attractive to her chosen gender sex partners [same or opposite] In order to validate her attractiveness all she needs is some overt sign of your lustful interest [text / voicemail] that she can show to her workmates. Doing so shows her sisters that she can attract a potential sex partner and PL; it plays on the competitiveness among women when it comes to sex partners / boy or girlfriends.
This means she doesn't have to actually show up for the OTC date or put out afterwards; she’s already won and potentially has a drooling regular that will, over time, give her more $$$ than for a few OTCs. In other words it can become a game of Rapo -- flirt and tease but when it comes time to put out, how can you think she’s that kind of girl. She’s playing to her coworkers / girlfriends [I’m not a slut], not to you. You’re just a convenient tool to use. And if you’re still lusting after her after the first NO SHOW she can later ramp up the game again.
If I had to go through all those gyrations, I'd never get any.
I took motorhead at his word: "...I'm learning about OTC and don't want to blow it" that is, an average guy new to OTC.
You, as you've told us many times are no average guy [I mean in terms of OTC experience, of course!]
I read motorhead as saying he didn't want to end up looking foolish or experience some of the worst outcomes kindly outlined for him by other posters to this topic.
Again, when you talk about "blowing it" we all know you mean something entirely different!
I negotiated a $50mil farm-in deal this morning for my new oil patch venture in less than half the wording of joker44's post.
My advice... Take the "or something?"
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